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    Default cold 4 bet @ BB??

    so i tried filtering raise preflop 3bet, however cold 4betting @BB doesnt appear under this filter. the hand in question is:

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    NL Holdem $1(BB) Replayer
    SB ($100)
    Hero ($109)
    UTG ($100)
    UTG+1 ($99.50)
    UTG+2 ($131)
    MP1 ($117)
    CO ($249)
    BTN ($101)

    Dealt to Hero 4:spade: A:spade:

    fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to $2.50, SB raises to $8, Hero raises to $20, fold, SB raises to $40, fold

    SB wins $42.50

    so am i filtering it wrongly or is this a HEM problem?

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    Can you post or attach the handhistory in its original formatting.
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    Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00 USD) - 2011/06/26
    Table 'Balaton III' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 1: hero ($173.20 in chips)
    Seat 2: Prometei999 ($101.50 in chips)
    Seat 3: HEBECTA ($28.50 in chips)
    Seat 4: Darvini ($64.50 in chips)
    Seat 5: Mindthis ($106.40 in chips)
    Seat 6: AceKing-KF ($101.50 in chips)
    Seat 7: K_Jussi_K ($105.05 in chips)
    Seat 8: cap. marb ($51.50 in chips)
    Mindthis: posts small blind $0.50
    AceKing-KF: posts big blind $1
    hugo1006: sits out
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [4s As]
    K_Jussi_K: folds
    cap. marb: folds
    hero: raises $2 to $3
    Prometei999: calls $3
    HEBECTA: raises $7.90 to $10.90
    Darvini: folds
    Mindthis: folds
    AceKing-KF: folds
    hero: folds
    Prometei999: folds
    Uncalled bet ($7.90) returned to HEBECTA
    HEBECTA collected $10.50 from pot
    HEBECTA: doesn't show hand
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $10.50 | Rake $0
    Seat 1: Hero folded before Flop
    Seat 2: Prometei999 folded before Flop
    Seat 3: HEBECTA collected ($10.50)
    Seat 4: Darvini (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: Mindthis (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 6: AceKing-KF (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 7: K_Jussi_K folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: cap. marb folded before Flop (didn't bet)

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    Are you sure that's the original formatting?
    Played on which site?

    I can't import the hand, without hand #number and TIME in the handhistory file.
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    PokerStars Game #63825471547: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00 USD) - 2011/06/26 17:55:41 ET
    Table 'Balaton III' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 1: hero ($173.20 in chips)
    Seat 2: Prometei999 ($101.50 in chips)
    Seat 3: HEBECTA ($28.50 in chips)
    Seat 4: Darvini ($64.50 in chips)
    Seat 5: Mindthis ($106.40 in chips)
    Seat 6: AceKing-KF ($101.50 in chips)
    Seat 7: K_Jussi_K ($105.05 in chips)
    Seat 8: cap. marb ($51.50 in chips)
    Mindthis: posts small blind $0.50
    AceKing-KF: posts big blind $1
    hugo1006: sits out
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to hero [4s As]
    K_Jussi_K: folds
    cap. marb: folds
    hero: raises $2 to $3
    Prometei999: calls $3
    HEBECTA: raises $7.90 to $10.90
    Darvini: folds
    Mindthis: folds
    AceKing-KF: folds
    hero: folds
    Prometei999: folds
    Uncalled bet ($7.90) returned to HEBECTA
    HEBECTA collected $10.50 from pot
    HEBECTA: doesn't show hand
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $10.50 | Rake $0
    Seat 1: hero folded before Flop
    Seat 2: Prometei999 folded before Flop
    Seat 3: HEBECTA collected ($10.50)
    Seat 4: Darvini (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: Mindthis (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 6: AceKing-KF (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 7: K_Jussi_K folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: cap. marb folded before Flop (didn't bet)

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    This hand is hero raises.
    Prometei999 calls.
    HEBECTA 3bets.
    Hero and Prometei999 fold.



    There is no 4bet.

    It's not the hand you used in your example in your opening post.

    Can you post the handhistory of that hand.
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    sorry
    PokerStars Game #63824638027: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00 USD) - 2011/06/26 17:34:40 ET
    Table 'Oskar IV' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 1: I The King I ($249.55 in chips)
    Seat 2: Joe_Banks ($101.10 in chips)
    Seat 3: ivan100886 ($100 in chips)
    Seat 4: Hero ($109.25 in chips)
    Seat 5: Coox ($100 in chips)
    Seat 6: koless2 ($99.50 in chips)
    Seat 7: Mindthis ($131.80 in chips)
    Seat 8: LaPoCaFlame ($117.50 in chips)
    ivan100886: posts small blind $0.50
    Hero: posts big blind $1
    vlsd: sits out
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [4s As]
    Coox: folds
    koless2: folds
    Mindthis: folds
    LaPoCaFlame: folds
    I The King I: folds
    Joe_Banks: raises $1.50 to $2.50
    ivan100886: raises $5.50 to $8
    Hero: raises $12 to $20
    Joe_Banks: folds
    ivan100886: raises $20 to $40
    Hero: folds
    Uncalled bet ($20) returned to ivan100886
    ivan100886 collected $42.50 from pot
    ivan100886: doesn't show hand
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $42.50 | Rake $0
    Seat 1: I The King I folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: Joe_Banks (button) folded before Flop
    Seat 3: ivan100886 (small blind) collected ($42.50)
    Seat 4: Hero (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 5: Coox folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: koless2 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: Mindthis folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: LaPoCaFlame folded before Flop (didn't bet)

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    I selected ivan100886 as the hero, as a test. And his 5bet does show up as "Raised Preflop 4Bet = True"


    Your 4bet doesn't show up with Raised Preflop 3bet = True
    However it does show up with Raised Preflop 3bet = False



    Is it possible our TRUE and FALSE filters are reversed?
    Can you check if other 4bet hands show up if you filter for = False?
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    i would believe that HEM doesnt identify cold 4bet as raising a 3bet = true.
    other 4bet hands do show up, however other cold 4bet hands similar to this doesnt appear. this needs a fix

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    I'll create a bug report for this and sent it to a programmer to fix.
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