EV Calculations

[tnbishop]

Something is wrong with the way EV is calculated. I was allin preflop against two larger stacks with AA and the hand gave me -EV.

How can I get all my chips in with AA preflop and be a dog?

[morny]

Update to this version http://www.holdemmanager.com/downloads/Hm1.08Beta.exe and then purge and reimport the hands, there was a bug with older versions

[tnbishop]

Update to this version http://www.holdemmanager.com/downloads/Hm1.08Beta.exe and then purge and reimport the hands, there was a bug with older versions

I just applied this update and started a new database. The bug is still there. Here is the hand history if you want to try it yourself. I get all my chips in with AA 3way and am assigned 8.6% equity by HEM.

Table Kuma VIII (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Seat 1: JonnyCosMo ( $436.00 USD )
Seat 2: Belabacsi ( $400.00 USD )
Seat 3: TNBishop ( $76.90 USD )
Seat 4: mattidm ( $400.00 USD )
Seat 5: FastEddie267 ( $770.00 USD )
Seat 6: deeznutz49 ( $1024.85 USD )
deeznutz49 posts small blind [$2.00 USD].
JonnyCosMo posts big blind [$4.00 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to TNBishop [ Ac As ]
Belabacsi folds
TNBishop raises [$8.00 USD]
mattidm raises [$30.00 USD]
FastEddie267 folds
deeznutz49 calls [$28.00 USD]
JonnyCosMo folds
TNBishop raises [$68.90 USD]
mattidm calls [$46.90 USD]
deeznutz49 calls [$46.90 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3c, 6s, 9h ]
deeznutz49 checks
mattidm bets [$68.00 USD]
deeznutz49 folds
mattidm wins $68.00 USD
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5h ]
** Dealing River ** [ 8d ]
TNBishop shows [Ac, As ]
mattidm shows [9d, 9c ]
mattidm wins $231.70 USD from main pot

[tnbishop]

Here's another hand an EV bug.

-I have AKo vs JJ vs AQo.
-I'm allin preflop
-The hand replayer says I have 35% equity preflop (when all my chips go in)

HEM, however, gives me 13.2% equity in the EV calculation.

$400.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, March 13, 03:21:30 ET 2009
Table Chicago III (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Seat 2: pigface222 ( $446.00 USD )
Seat 3: hartiedd1 ( $544.00 USD )
Seat 4: 67DD ( $260.10 USD )
Seat 5: TNBishop ( $78.50 USD )
Seat 6: Nairb09 ( $506.50 USD )
67DD posts small blind [$2.00 USD].
TNBishop posts big blind [$4.00 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to TNBishop [ Ad Kh ]
Nairb09 folds
pigface222 raises [$10.00 USD]
hartiedd1 folds
67DD raises [$18.00 USD]
TNBishop raises [$74.50 USD]
pigface222 raises [$159.00 USD]
67DD calls [$149.00 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8h, 7s, Qc ]
67DD bets [$91.10 USD]
pigface222 calls [$91.10 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4d ]
** Dealing River ** [ 9s ]
67DD shows [Jc, Js ]
pigface222 shows [Ac, Qs ]
pigface222 wins $363.20 USD from main pot
pigface222 wins $233.50 USD from main pot
TNBishop doesn't show [Ad, Kh ]

[morny]

I need the original HH, right click the hand and choose export to hard drive and send me that file by email morny@holdemmanager.net and a link to this thread