Please list the all actions what are included in stat = flop bet - 3bet pot?

# Thread: Please list the all actions what are included in stat = flop bet - 3bet pot?

1. ## Please list the all actions what are included in stat = flop bet - 3bet pot?

I have a question about stat: flop bet - 3bet pot. Please list the all actions what are included in stat flop bet - 3bet pot? Does it include flop bet vs MCbet? Does it include being PFR or vs PFR? For example: on one opponent I have stats: flop bet - 3bet pot - 70%(48/69) and flop bet vs MCbet - 14%(1/7) and I don't quite understand his aggression on flop in 3bet pot vs PFR. His Flop bet is huge where is his flop bet on MCbet is little. Of course you can say that I need to look at AGG-STATS when evaluating opp aggression, but huge BET stat should point in the same direction,right? Cheers.

2. It is a very general stat focused on all types of flop bets in any 3Bet pot.

Key: FlopBet3BetPot
Header: Flop Bet - 38et Pot
Description: Percent of time player bets on flop in 3Bet pot
Expression: Sum("FlopActionBet && Preflop3BetPlusPot”) / Sum(”(FlopActionBet || CheckFlop) && Preflop38etPlusPot™)

3. Hi. Thanks for a quick response. Two follow-up questions. Please expand on your EXPRESSION formula. And second: What is the operational point in stat FLOPBET3BETPOT if it is so general and inclusive?

4. Expression is made of instances (left side of formula) and opportunities (right side of formula):
- Instances = hands where the player bets on the flop and it was a 3bet pot preflop
- Opportunities = hands where player checks or bets on the flop and it was a 3bet pot preflop

*Note: Hands, where you call/raise/fold, are not bet opportunities since you would be facing a bet already.

5. So basically this Formula means - FLOP BET 3BPOT includes all actions of opponent except CHECK on FLOP. Right?

6. Originally Posted by sol_demius
So basically this Formula means - FLOP BET 3BPOT includes all actions of opponent except CHECK on FLOP. Right?
Yes, and technically 'Open-Folds' would not be included either.

7. 1) (follow up to previous FLOP BET 3BPOT question) what about FLOP CBET(action of preflop raiser)? Is it included in stat FLOP BET - 3BET POT?
2) (new question) Also, just have found probably some inconsistencies in 3B STATS. There are two stats: Flop Fold VS Cbet 3Bet Pot and Flop Fold TO Cbet - 3Bet P. Doesn't those mean the same??
3) (new q) if on PREFLOP happened LIMP - RAISE - RERAISE - CALL. Does players come into 3BET POT or not(where 3bet stats indicate you as player further)?

8. Originally Posted by sol_demius
1) (follow up to previous FLOP BET 3BPOT question) what about FLOP CBET(action of preflop raiser)? Is it included in stat FLOP BET - 3BET POT?
Yes, if it fits all the criteria of the stat definition/expression.

Originally Posted by sol_demius
2) (new question) Also, just have found probably some inconsistencies in 3B STATS. There are two stats: Flop Fold VS Cbet 3Bet Pot and Flop Fold TO Cbet - 3Bet P. Doesn't those mean the same??
They are similar but not exactly the same:

Key: FlopFoldtoCB3BetPot
Header: Flop Fold to C8 - 38etPot
Description: Percent of time player folds on flop when facing a continuation bet in 38et pot

Key: FoldToFlopCBet3BetPot
Header: Flop Fold vs Chet 38et Pot
Description: Percent of time player folds or check-folds on the flop when facing a CB in a 3Bet Pot

Originally Posted by sol_demius
3) (new q) if on PREFLOP happened LIMP - RAISE - RERAISE - CALL. Does players come into 3BET POT or not(where 3bet stats indicate you as player further)?
Please attach an actual original hand history file of such actions and explain in more detail what stat you are asking about and for which player.

9. Hi there. I have licensed HM3. Where to find the whole stats list with explanation?

10. Originally Posted by sol_demius
Hi there. I have licensed HM3. Where to find the whole stats list with explanation?
We do not have such a FAQ yet, unfortunately. This feature request has been documented in detail and provided to the developers for future consideration. *If you want to be notified if/when it is added please send an email via the 'Contact Support' link and include "Notify Me When HMT-6750 Is Resolved" in the subject line and body of the email.

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