Rake calculation GG - Beat Beat Jackpot Fee = Rake ?

[LukasHoesl]

Hi HM3 forum,

I wondered how the rake of GG HandHistorys is accounted in HM3.

Is the jackpot fee of 1bb for pots >30bb accounted for as rake or is it ignored?

So what is shown in my HM3, if I filter for Rake payed:

1) Rake = Rake
or
2) Rake = Rake + Jackpot Fee

Here an example GG HandHistory:

Poker Hand #HD666713242: Hold'em No Limit ($5/$10) - 2021/10/03 01:46:47
Table 'NLHDiamond7' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: a98aaa9b ($490.78 in chips)
Seat 3: b655c769 ($1,609.19 in chips)
Seat 5: 17339e89 ($985 in chips)
Seat 6: Hero ($1,377.81 in chips)
a98aaa9b: posts small blind $5
b655c769: posts big blind $10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to a98aaa9b
Dealt to b655c769
Dealt to 17339e89
Dealt to Hero [Ah Qh]
17339e89: folds
Hero: raises $15 to $25
a98aaa9b: raises $35 to $60
b655c769: folds
Hero: calls $35
*** FLOP *** [8s 4h Qd]
a98aaa9b: bets $40.3
Hero: raises $73.18 to $113.48
a98aaa9b: calls $73.18
*** TURN *** [8s 4h Qd] [6h]
a98aaa9b: checks
Hero: checks
*** RIVER *** [8s 4h Qd 6h] [9c]
a98aaa9b: bets $77
Hero: raises $255.48 to $332.48
a98aaa9b: calls $240.3 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($15.18) returned to Hero
Hero: shows [Ah Qh] (Pair of Queens)
a98aaa9b: shows [Qc Jc] (Pair of Queens)
*** SHOWDOWN ***
Hero collected $971.56 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $991.56 | Rake $10 | Jackpot $10 | Bingo $0
Board [8s 4h Qd 6h 9c]
Seat 2: a98aaa9b (small blind) showed [Qc Jc] and lost with Pair of Queens
Seat 3: b655c769 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: 17339e89 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Hero (button) showed [Ah Qh] and won ($971.56) with Pair of Queens


Thanks in advance!

[fozzy71]

It is accounted for in the 'Net Won' stat/results but it is not accounted for in the 'Rake Taken Game' stat or other various 'Rake' related stats. It is a separate fee so has to be accounted for under a separate 'Jackpot Fee' stat. PT4 has a 'BBJ' report stat to keep track of these fees but HM3 does not have such a stat yet unfortunately. This feature request has been documented in detail and provided to the developers for future consideration. If you want to be notified if/when it is added please send an email via the 'Contact Support' link and include "Notify Me When HMT-6456 Is Resolved" in the subject line and body of the email.

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Total pot $991.56 | Rake $10 | Jackpot $10 | Bingo $0

971.56 - 490.78 contributed = 480.78 Net Won

[TheSeS]

Hey guys, I'm trying to find a way to get the accurate number of true rake paid on GGPoker with help of HM3.

The way I understand it, on top of the 'Rake' number showing in HM, jackpot fees should be added to determine true rake paid.

Bad Beat Jackpot: if you play regular cash game tables this is a 1bb fee for won pots over 30bb.
Cash Drop Jackpot: if you play Rush&Cash another 1bb for 30bb+ pots is charged.

Does this mean if I play reg tables I take 'Rake' as shown in HM3, e.g. $100 and should manually add 1bb * 30bb+ pots won? For example, I won 5 pots that were over 30bb on $1/$2 stakes, I add 5 * $2 = $10 to come to true rake paid of $110?

Let me know if this approach is accurate please, that would be helpful!

Thank you

[fozzy71]

Yes, it sounds like you have the right method to use until such time as we add a 'BBJ' fee stat to HM3 that you can then add to the 'Rake Taken Game' stat.

[ivish_h]

I've just stumbled upon this thread and thought I could contribute with my comment. As far as I understand, the jackpot fee in GG HandHistorys is accounted for as part of the rake. So when you filter for Rake paid in HM3, it should show Rake = Rake + Jackpot Fee.
Regarding your example, it looks like the jackpot fee of $10 is included in the rake amount of $10. So in this case, Rake = $10 and Jackpot Fee = $10.