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  1. #1
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    Default ICM EV: HM3 vs ICMIZER3 different results

    Hey guys,

    I am trying to get a bit deeper into all that ICM stuff and analyze my SnG plays.
    Yesterday I had a hand (s. below), where HM3 says ICM EV Diff -3,28$. Mistakes were made, I thought.
    I copied the hand to the ICMIZER3 but he told me the shove was correct ICM$EV +0.07.

    2021-08-27 HM3_ICM_EV.png

    2021-08-27 ICMIZER3_ICM_EV.png

    Is there someone with the ability to explain me, whats going on here?
    Was the Push right or wrong?

    Thank for your help.

    Here is the specific hand:

    PokerStars Hand #229349594610: Tournament #3254905900, $3.16+$0.34 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level V (60/120) - 2021/08/26 16:08:04 CET [2021/08/26 10:08:04 ET]
    Table '3254905900 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
    Seat 1: DSide160 (2375 in chips)
    Seat 3: romanli92 (1827 in chips)
    Seat 4: isoteck (2226 in chips)
    Seat 5: Brazilian Bot (2462 in chips)
    Seat 6: Matze250190 (1155 in chips)
    Seat 8: DaJewals (1390 in chips)
    Seat 9: Gavs666730 (2065 in chips)
    DSide160: posts the ante 15
    romanli92: posts the ante 15
    isoteck: posts the ante 15
    Brazilian Bot: posts the ante 15
    Matze250190: posts the ante 15
    DaJewals: posts the ante 15
    Gavs666730: posts the ante 15
    Gavs666730: posts small blind 60
    DSide160: posts big blind 120
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Matze250190 [9h Th]
    romanli92: folds
    isoteck: folds
    Brazilian Bot has timed out
    Brazilian Bot: folds
    Brazilian Bot is sitting out
    Brazilian Bot has returned
    Matze250190: raises 1020 to 1140 and is all-in
    DaJewals: raises 235 to 1375 and is all-in
    Gavs666730: folds
    DSide160: folds
    Uncalled bet (235) returned to DaJewals
    *** FLOP *** [2c 8c Ah]
    *** TURN *** [2c 8c Ah] [Qc]
    *** RIVER *** [2c 8c Ah Qc] [9c]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Matze250190: shows [9h Th] (a pair of Nines)
    DaJewals: shows [Js Ks] (high card Ace)
    Matze250190 collected 2565 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 2565 | Rake 0
    Board [2c 8c Ah Qc 9c]
    Seat 1: DSide160 (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 3: romanli92 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: isoteck folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: Brazilian Bot folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: Matze250190 showed [9h Th] and won (2565) with a pair of Nines
    Seat 8: DaJewals (button) showed [Js Ks] and lost with high card Ace
    Seat 9: Gavs666730 (small blind) folded before Flop

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    I'm sorry to hear you're having issues with the software and I apologize for the delay in reply.

    This is not something I can answer myself so I forwarded it to our QA/Testing Managers to review.

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    We need the entire hand history file(s) and tournament summary file to be able to detect the type so that we can know the prize structure before we can calculate any ICM. You can find those files in the C:\HM3Archive folder.

    Please zip and email the original problem hand histories and tournament summaries to us as instructed at the bottom of this FAQ. Make sure you also include screenshots of your reports/filters and a detailed description by tournament number, session, hole cards, filter, stat, etc. of some of the errors we need to test with a link to this thread and your forum user name.

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