WPN hand not showing Allin EV
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  1. #1
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    Default WPN hand not showing Allin EV

    This hand does not create an Allin Equity field or an All in Adj EV. Hero is sloppychips.

    Game Hand #712418363 - Tournament #23973456 - Holdem(No Limit) - Level 8 (125.00/250.00)- 2021/02/21 00:20:11 UTC
    Table '40' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: dblsooted (15076.00)
    Seat 2: Jasonkid88 (9690.00)
    Seat 3: sloppychips (29365.00)
    Seat 4: 89917 (40706.00)
    Seat 5: TheNutsAAAA (9559.00)
    Seat 6: thaBluePrint (2544.00)
    dblsooted posts ante 30.00
    Jasonkid88 posts ante 30.00
    sloppychips posts ante 30.00
    89917 posts ante 30.00
    TheNutsAAAA posts ante 30.00
    thaBluePrint posts ante 30.00
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Main pot 180.00
    Jasonkid88 posts the small blind 125.00
    sloppychips posts the big blind 250.00
    Dealt to sloppychips [Ah Ac]
    89917 folds
    TheNutsAAAA folds
    thaBluePrint raises 2514.00 to 2514.00 and is all-in
    dblsooted calls 2514.00
    Jasonkid88 raises 9535.00 to 9660.00 and is all-in
    sloppychips raises 16556.00 to 16806.00
    dblsooted folds
    *** FLOP *** [5c Qd 6h]
    Main pot 10236.00
    Side pot(1) 14292.00
    *** TURN *** [5c Qd 6h] [8s]
    Main pot 10236.00
    Side pot(1) 14292.00
    *** RIVER *** [5c Qd 6h 8s] [7s]
    Main pot 10236.00
    Side pot(1) 14292.00
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Main pot 10236.00
    Side pot(1) 14292.00
    Uncalled bet (7146.00) returned to sloppychips
    Jasonkid88 shows [9c 9d] (a straight, Nine high [9d 8s 7s 6h 5c])
    sloppychips shows [Ah Ac] (a pair of Aces [Ah Ac Qd 8s 7s])
    thaBluePrint shows [8c 7c] (two pair, Eights and Sevens [8s 8c 7s 7c Qd])
    Jasonkid88 collected 10236.00 from main pot
    Jasonkid88 collected 14292.00 from side pot-1
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 24528.00
    Board [5c Qd 6h 8s 7s]
    Seat 1: dblsooted (button) folded on the Pre-Flop
    Seat 2: Jasonkid88 (small blind) showed [9c 9d] and won 24528.00 with a straight, Nine high [9d 8s 7s 6h 5c]
    Seat 3: sloppychips (big blind) showed [Ah Ac] and lost with a pair of Aces [Ah Ac Qd 8s 7s]
    Seat 4: 89917 folded on the Pre-Flop and did not bet
    Seat 5: TheNutsAAAA folded on the Pre-Flop and did not bet
    Seat 6: thaBluePrint showed [8c 7c] and lost with two pair, Eights and Sevens [8s 8c 7s 7c Qd]

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    This is because dblsooted called short stack's thaBluePrint all-in then folded to the reshove all-in by Jasonkid88.

    HM3 uses the same equity code as PT4 now which is more accurate and less biased than the code we used for equity in HM2.

    In a hand where a player is all-in but other players are not, net adjusted results are not calculated. When one player is all-in preflop and other players are not, then they usually have the option to act postflop and this means that sometimes one of them will fold. Having the option to fold* after another street is dealt means that in the long run there will be more strong hands which get to showdown and less weak hands. If we were to calculate net adjusted results in hands like this it would introduce a systematic bias (because there will be more known strong hands) so we exclude all hands like this from net adjusted calculations. You can read more about this here - https://www.pokertracker.com/blog/20...-all-in-equity

    *Note: Attempting to calculate adjusted results when unknown but folded cards already called the all-in also introduce a bias into the results so HM3 does not make these calculations in any situation where a player calls the all-in and later folds (even if it's on the same street).

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