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    Default Action forbidden but but the definition does not notice it.

    NCE hey!

    First, a general question, though I'm not sure what you want to answer it, but still I will ask:

    What's going on with the program? The functionality that worked perfectly 2-3-4-55-6 years ago constantly stops working. One problem is fixed, 2 new ones are created - does Streticentv continue to write and fix the code himself, or did he hire someone? Every time a new version comes out, I am constantly afraid that something important has been messed up ...
    I have a whole list of bugs that did not exist in version 2.6.14, and some of them lead to serious errors or inconvenience.
    Surprisingly, problems that have been fixed for a long time suddenly appear again. Either the program code is written badly, or someone is poorly oriented in it.

    Poured out my soul, now a problem that did not exist before:

    The definition defines a player's Limp > call range versus a raise of 4-6bb. At the same time, it is FORBIDDEN to call someone else, except for the recipient.
    This prohibition does not work.

    In the example below D181B0CC654863 limp and EUISMONTOX call after raise, but it's directly forbidden by preflop sequencess.





    PokerStars Hand #281659524683: Hold'em No Limit ($500/$1000 USD) - 2020/09/29 13:17:29 UTC
    Table 'PKDOM_IDNP_TXH28165' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
    Seat 1: DEWA_ZIGIT ($27629 in chips)
    Seat 2: IONZK88ZD9Z ($53047 in chips)
    Seat 3: INDRA76_ ($31005 in chips)
    Seat 4: SANDIL66 ($13500 in chips)
    Seat 5: EUISMONTOX ($24185 in chips)
    Seat 6: D181B0CC654863 ($100809 in chips)
    # {"gt":"NLTHP","tn":"PKDOM_IDNP_TXH28165","tid":281 65,"pn":{"0":"DEWA_ZIGIT","1":"IONZK88ZD9Z","2":"I NDRA76_","3":"SANDIL66","4":"EUISMONTOX","5":"D181 B0CC654863"},"pids":{"0":659780501,"1":861363787," 2":347329540,"3":795152485,"4":204808001,"5":38520 0981},"room":"Idnp"}
    SANDIL66: posts small blind $500
    EUISMONTOX: posts big blind $1000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    D181B0CC654863: calls $1000
    DEWA_ZIGIT: folds
    IONZK88ZD9Z: raises $3000 to $4000
    INDRA76_: folds
    SANDIL66: folds
    EUISMONTOX: calls $3000
    D181B0CC654863: calls $3000
    *** FLOP *** [9s 2d Kh]
    EUISMONTOX: bets $2000
    D181B0CC654863: calls $2000
    IONZK88ZD9Z: calls $2000
    *** TURN *** [9s 2d Kh] [Tc]
    EUISMONTOX: bets $2000
    D181B0CC654863: calls $2000
    IONZK88ZD9Z: folds
    *** RIVER *** [9s 2d Kh Tc] [Js]
    EUISMONTOX: bets $1000
    D181B0CC654863: calls $1000
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    D181B0CC654863 collected $23765 from pot
    D181B0CC654863: shows [Kc 8c]
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $24500 | Rake $735
    Board [9s 2d Kh Tc Js]
    Seat 1: DEWA_ZIGIT folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: IONZK88ZD9Z folded on the Turn
    Seat 3: INDRA76_ (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: SANDIL66 (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 5: EUISMONTOX (big blind) mucked
    Seat 6: D181B0CC654863 showed [Kc 8c] and won ($23765) with One pair, King


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    Hi FALOs,

    What's going on with the program? The functionality that worked perfectly 2-3-4-55-6 years ago constantly stops working. One problem is fixed, 2 new ones are created - does Streticentv continue to write and fix the code himself, or did he hire someone? Every time a new version comes out, I am constantly afraid that something important has been messed up ...
    NoteCaddy isn't a standalone program anymore, so every time things change with HM2, HM3, PT4, and the poker sites, NoteCaddy often has to make changes as well to maintain compatibility. There are a lot of moving parts. If you tried NC for HM3 in its first beta stage you would see how far it has come along, it's getting better (thanks to people like you who report issues).

    The definition defines a player's Limp > call range versus a raise of 4-6bb. At the same time, it is FORBIDDEN to call someone else, except for the recipient.
    This prohibition does not work.

    In the example below D181B0CC654863 limp and EUISMONTOX call after raise, but it's directly forbidden by preflop sequencess.
    Thank you for reporting this. I was able to reproduce it, and I made a ticket for the developers set to high priority, so it should get fixed in one of the next updates.

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    Thanks for reporting the issue of 'Action had to not happen' not working in definitions. It should be resolved now as of NC v2.9.91.0 (also tested in v2.9.92.0 of HM3). You may need to reset and reprocess the notes so it takes effect on previously processed hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotecaddyEdge View Post
    Thanks for reporting the issue of 'Action had to not happen' not working in definitions. It should be resolved now as of NC v2.9.91.0 (also tested in v2.9.92.0 of HM3). You may need to reset and reprocess the notes so it takes effect on previously processed hands.
    As I can see now, the latest version has several bugs fixed, which I described.
    NCEedge - help me!
    Just ask the developers to add an exception for such file "headers":


    PokerStars Hand #100000213164922112: Hold'em No Limit ($500/$1000 USD) - 2021/02/13 16:49:22 UTC
    Table 'PKDOM_IDNP_TXH28147' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: MAMA_1 ($7777 in chips)
    Seat 2: P7VR5MSL4B ($7777 in chips)
    Seat 3: LETIK919 ($7777 in chips)
    Seat 4: SPY188 ($7777 in chips)
    Seat 5: VIEU_89 ($7777 in chips)
    Seat 6: FREE_JOB ($7777 in chips)
    MAMA_1: posts the ante $0.01
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    MAMA_1 collected $0.01 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $0.01 | Rake $0
    Seat 1: MAMA_1 (button) mucked
    Seat 2: P7VR5MSL4B (small blind) mucked
    Seat 3: LETIK919 (big blind) mucked
    Seat 4: SPY188 mucked
    Seat 5: VIEU_89 mucked
    Seat 6: FREE_JOB mucked

    which were normally perceived by the program up to version 2.9.83, and we will continue to improve the program further. I have been waiting for the fix for 4 months. And what is most annoying - everything worked fine until version 2.9.83.

    Well, is it really such a big problem to remove the hang of the program when it encounters such an HH?
    I still hope and believe NCEdge

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    Quote Originally Posted by FALOs View Post
    As I can see now, the latest version has several bugs fixed, which I described.
    NCEedge - help me!
    Just ask the developers to add an exception for such file "headers":
    Hi FALOs,

    I just shared this in the ticket with the developers and bumped the issue. I hope it will be addressed soon for you.

    Thanks for help in addressing this issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FALOs View Post
    As I can see now, the latest version has several bugs fixed, which I described.
    NCEedge - help me!
    Just ask the developers to add an exception for such file "headers":


    PokerStars Hand #100000213164922112: Hold'em No Limit ($500/$1000 USD) - 2021/02/13 16:49:22 UTC
    Table 'PKDOM_IDNP_TXH28147' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: MAMA_1 ($7777 in chips)
    Seat 2: P7VR5MSL4B ($7777 in chips)
    Seat 3: LETIK919 ($7777 in chips)
    Seat 4: SPY188 ($7777 in chips)
    Seat 5: VIEU_89 ($7777 in chips)
    Seat 6: FREE_JOB ($7777 in chips)
    MAMA_1: posts the ante $0.01
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    MAMA_1 collected $0.01 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $0.01 | Rake $0
    Seat 1: MAMA_1 (button) mucked
    Seat 2: P7VR5MSL4B (small blind) mucked
    Seat 3: LETIK919 (big blind) mucked
    Seat 4: SPY188 mucked
    Seat 5: VIEU_89 mucked
    Seat 6: FREE_JOB mucked

    which were normally perceived by the program up to version 2.9.83, and we will continue to improve the program further. I have been waiting for the fix for 4 months. And what is most annoying - everything worked fine until version 2.9.83.

    Well, is it really such a big problem to remove the hang of the program when it encounters such an HH?
    I still hope and believe NCEdge
    Hi FALOs,

    The developers are asking if there is an option to disable these types of hands in the converter, can you check that if you haven't already? I assume you have, but the developers think there might be that option.

    They also asked if NC is disabled does the freeze still happen once you sit at tables? I guess to disable NC for HM2 you just have to uncheck 'show caddy notes' in the HUD Settings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotecaddyEdge View Post
    Hi FALOs,

    The developers are asking if there is an option to disable these types of hands in the converter, can you check that if you haven't already? I assume you have, but the developers think there might be that option.

    They also asked if NC is disabled does the freeze still happen once you sit at tables? I guess to disable NC for HM2 you just have to uncheck 'show caddy notes' in the HUD Settings.

    Hi NCEdge!

    Thank you for not leaving me alone with my problem. I once again contacted the EliteHud developers, and they said that all their converters use such "fake" hands, so that the HUD appears immediately, without waiting for the end of the distribution, thereby significantly increasing the user experience.
    They believe that, in principle, the situation when the entire software product freezes due to an incorrectly recorded / fake hand is incorrect.
    Application stability should come first, the handler should simply ignore any tainted hands and not hang the parent program tightly.

    This is their answer. I hope the guys from the NC team still understand that if the handler allows this to happen, then it can happen in any other case, even if ElitHud refused such hands. I think it is in the NC's best interest to exclude even potentially incorrect fatal handling of any type of HH.

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    Thank you, FALOs. I've updated the developers with your response. I think there is a good chance your issue can get addressed for the next update.

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