Success vs 1% / Success vs 2% / Success vs 3+% in-accurate

[luukbotter]

Hey,

I noticed an inaccuracy with the Flop Cbet% Success numbers

In the screenshot you will see an overview of this.

I filtered for a Single Raised Pot vs 1 opponent and notice that the outcomes of the Success vs 1% are totally different than those of the Flop Cbet% Success, while both are exactly the same.

Reason I noticed this is that I was working in the Cbet Situational View section and here these strange HIGH numbers shows up.

Could you tell me what is happening here and why these don't match. Its pretty important as now all the Success vs 1% / Success vs 2% / Success vs 3+% numbers that show are in-accurate

Regards

Luuk

[fozzy71]

Do you have the new beta version 3.1.12.6336 installed yet? I can not duplicate this in our new internal beta with one of our test samples as you can see in the attached image.

samplehero - position report - filtered - both 54.5.png

Please update to our latest beta version of HM3 from this link - https://www.holdemmanager.com/downlo...3&channel=beta

If you continue to have problems:

Please try all the steps in this FAQ. If you continue to have problems please zip and email the problem original hand histories and tournament summaries to us as instructed. Make sure you also include screenshots of your reports/filters and a detailed description by tournament number, session, hole cards, filter, stat, etc. of some of the errors we need to test.

[luukbotter]

hi fozzy71

I do see this yes as well, same as you show.

So what is the difference here between "Flop Cbet% Success" and "Success vs 1%" ?

I would like to show the screenshot below again as this is confusing to me.

You can see the Flp CBet% Success on the left side and than those Success vs 1% / Success vs 2% and Success vs 3+% on the right side.

What do those stats on the right mean? Arent they related to Flop Cbet% Success?

These numbers are much higher and I dont know what these mean on what they add in this window.

Regards

Luuk

[fozzy71]

....

So what is the difference here between "Flop Cbet% Success" and "Success vs 1%" ?

I would like to show the screenshot below again as this is confusing to me.

You can see the Flp CBet% Success on the left side and than those Success vs 1% / Success vs 2% and Success vs 3+% on the right side.

What do those stats on the right mean? Arent they related to Flop Cbet% Success?

These numbers are much higher and I dont know what these mean on what they add in this window.

Regards

Luuk

If you hover over the column in a report you can see the definition for the stat in a tooltip as shown in the images below. The definition also shows in the Report Stats Picker, or in the HUD Editor... Stats Picker if hovering, when adding stats to a report or HUD.

- 'Flop CBet% Success' is the 'Precent of time player takes down the pot when cbetting the flop' regardless of the number of other players in the pot.

flop cbet success overall.png

- 'Flop CBet% Success vs1' is the 'Percent of time player takes down the pot when cbetting the flop against 1 player' and so on for vs2 and vs3.

flop cbet success vs 1 player.png

[luukbotter]

ty.

I got one more question in regards to the Success vs 1 / vs 2 / vs 3+ in the Situational view window.

What does this refer to?

As these numbers are different than the Flop Cbet Success vs 1% / vs 2% / vs 3+%


You can see this in the screenshot again.

I did update to the latest version.

Regards

luuk

[fozzy71]

What does this refer to?
As these numbers are different than the Flop Cbet Success vs 1% / vs 2% / vs 3+%

What does what refer to? Was there more typed there or a second image that is not showing, or were you referring to something in the image?

You can see this in the screenshot again.

The numbers are different from 'Flop Cbet Success%' because they are different stats/formulas.
- Flop CBet Success is for all Flop CBets regardless of number of players that saw the flop.
- Flop Cbet Success vs 1% is only for Flop Cbets vs exactly 1 other player.
- Flop Cbet Success vs 2% is only for Flop Cbets vs exactly 2 other players.
- Flop Cbet Success vs 3% is only for Flop Cbets vs 3 or more other players.

i.e. The general 'Flop CBet Success' stat includes all the 3 of the other stats. The vs 1, vs 2, and vs 3 variants are all independent stats separate from each other.

Here are the actual math expressions used for each:

flop cbet success expression.png

flop cbet success vs1 expression.png

flop cbet success vs2 expression.png

flop cbet success vs3 expression.png