Wrong EV for Pokerstars and Party when all in

[dasim88]

Hello!

I am also having problems with the adjusted EV when all in multiway on pokerstars and party poker. Is this already a known problem? Is there a fix to it? Thanks!

[fozzy71]

You posted this in someone elses thread about GGPoker and RIOP hands. Please start your own threads unless you are having the exact same problems with the same sites as someone else's thread.

problems with the adjusted EV when all in multiway on pokerstars and party poker. Is this already a known problem?

Was anyone else all-in on previous streets? Did anyone call one all-in then fold to a re-shove?

HM3 uses the same equity code as PT4 now which is more accurate and less biased than the code we used for equity in HM2.

In a hand where a player is all-in but other players are not, net adjusted results are not calculated. When one player is all-in preflop and other players are not, then they usually have the option to act postflop and this means that sometimes one of them will fold. Having the option to fold* after another street is dealt means that in the long run there will be more strong hands which get to showdown and less weak hands. If we were to calculate net adjusted results in hands like this it would introduce a systematic bias (because there will be more known strong hands) so we exclude all hands like this from net adjusted calculations. You can read more about this here - https://www.pokertracker.com/blog/20...-all-in-equity

*Note: Attempting to calculate adjusted results when unknown but folded cards already called the all-in also introduce a bias into the results so HM3 does not make these calculations in any situation where a player calls the all-in and later folds (even if it's on the same street).

If your hands do not fit either of those criteria, and you think the EV is still wrong for some specific hands:

Please try all the steps in this FAQ.

If you continue to have problems please zip and email the problem original hand histories and tournament summaries to us as instructed. Make sure you also include screenshots of your reports/filters and a detailed description by tournament number, session, hole cards, filter, stat, etc. of some of the errors we need to test.