HM3 all-in adj curve bug ?

[Wyhk]

Hi,

I just installed HM3 5 days ago.

I just noticed the "show all-in adj" graph do NOT take into count postflop allin before river.

Is this normal ? In exemple, the hand is tagged as flop in the "allin street" but the "allin adj diff" shows 0 !
I have no problem with all in preflop hands.

I did not touch any settings, and it seems it always have been working like this since I installed the software.

A little help would be appreciated !

Thanks

[fozzy71]

HM3 uses the same Equity code as PT4 now which is more accurate and less biased than the code we used for Equity in HM2.

In a hand where a player is all-in but other players are not, net adjusted results are not calculated. When one player is all-in preflop and other players are not, then they usually have the option to act postflop and this means that sometimes one of them will fold. Having the option to fold* after another street is dealt means that in the long run there will be more strong hands which get to showdown and less weak hands. If we were to calculate net adjusted results in hands like this it would introduce a systematic bias (because there will be more known strong hands) so we exclude all hands like this from net adjusted calculations. You can read more about this here - https://www.pokertracker.com/blog/20...-all-in-equity

*Note: Attempting to calculate adjusted results when unknown but folded cards already called the all-in also introduce a bias into the results so HM3 does not make these calculations in any situation where a player calls the all-in and later folds (even if it's on the same street).


If you have a hand showing 0 All-In Adj Diff for a hand that you feel does NOT fit the criteria above then you need to send us that/those hands for testing.

Please zip and email the original problem hand histories and tournament summaries to us as instructed at the bottom of this FAQ.

Make sure you also include screenshots of your reports/filters and a detailed description by tournament number, session, hole cards, filter, stat, etc. of some of the errors we need to test.

[Wyhk]

ok thank you for the answer.

Still it makes no sense not to take into count the hands when everyone involved show their cards at the end.
I lost a 96% favored hand in 3 way after 1 player went allin preflop and the second went allin on flop.
So both showed their cards at the end and in this situation it makes no sense not to take all in adj into consideration.

Don't you think so?

[fozzy71]

What I think does not matter as I am no EV/Math expert or developer. Our developers are well versed in this subject and they feel this is the most accurate and unbiased method for calculating All-In Adj stats so that is the way it is for HM3.