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    Flop fold Ip ( vs cbet oop ? )

    Flop Raise ip ( bet vs Raise ? )

    Flop DonkBet Fold ( donkbet vs raise = fold oop)

    Flop cbet-Fold ( fold oop vs cbet ip )

    Flop Raise-Fold Ip (cbet ip vs xr? or it's 3bet fold flop)

    What does mean MiniRaise 2bb bet?

    SB vpip 82 pfr 58 Miniraise 37


    Thank you for your help .

    ps: I am trying to built an hu hud . regards.

    I have already pokertracker4 licence but for hu I find useful to use hm2 hud .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiou View Post
    Flop fold Ip ( vs cbet oop ? )

    Flop Raise ip ( bet vs Raise ? )

    Flop DonkBet Fold ( donkbet vs raise = fold oop)

    Flop cbet-Fold ( fold oop vs cbet ip )

    Flop Raise-Fold Ip (cbet ip vs xr? or it's 3bet fold flop)

    What does mean MiniRaise 2bb bet?

    SB vpip 82 pfr 58 Miniraise 37


    Thank you for your help .

    ps: I am trying to built an hu hud . regards.

    I have already pokertracker4 licence but for hu I find useful to use hm2 hud .
    If the stat says vs cbet, then it's vs a cbet. Otherwise, it's vs any bet.

    It looks like you meant Donkbet-Fold. This is a combo action. Any time that the stat is hyphened, it is two actions. First there's a donkbet. Then, a fold vs raise. Same with cbet-fold. You cbet, they raise, you fold.

    Flop Raise-Fold IP means the person bet, you raised, they re-raised, and you folded.

    minraise means you "clicked it back" and made the minimum raise possible.

    I do not know what you are asking here - SB vpip 82 pfr 58 Miniraise 37
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    Quote Originally Posted by udbrky View Post
    If the stat says vs cbet, then it's vs a cbet. Otherwise, it's vs any bet.

    It looks like you meant Donkbet-Fold. This is a combo action. Any time that the stat is hyphened, it is two actions. First there's a donkbet. Then, a fold vs raise. Same with cbet-fold. You cbet, they raise, you fold.

    Flop Raise-Fold IP means the person bet, you raised, they re-raised, and you folded.

    minraise means you "clicked it back" and made the minimum raise possible.

    I do not know what you are asking here - SB vpip 82 pfr 58 Miniraise 37
    Ok thank you

    58pfr it's total preflop raiser but a portion of this it's 37 miniraise, so 21 % time it's bigger than miniraise? right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiou View Post
    Ok thank you

    58pfr it's total preflop raiser but a portion of this it's 37 miniraise, so 21 % time it's bigger than miniraise? right?
    If it's HU, then it should be able to just subtract, but there will be 3bets included. You can only subtract two stats if they have equal opportunities.
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    Default vpip vs pfr

    So

    If a player has

    vpip 30
    pfr 20

    miniraise 10

    it means

    10 of 20 pfr is miniraise

    and 10% of 30% is the effective vipip ?

    Or vpip calculate only the call range of player without any pfr?

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    VPIP is the set of all hands which a player voluntarily put money in preflop. It is all raises and calls, calls of re-raises, or re-raises. It does not include checking in the big blind.

    PFR is the subset of all hands VPIP'd, where the player was the aggressor.

    Minraise is the subset of PFR hands where the player raised the minimum.

    It is not completely accurate to subtract them like this, because it ignores cold 4bets, 3bets, etc. \

    You can only subtract like that when both had the exact same number of opportunities to perform that action.
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    What about 3bet call , 3bet preflop ?

    If I 3bet , the pfr increase right?

    if I call 3bet the vpip increase and decrease the pfr ? right? is it working like miniraise ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by udbrky View Post

    It is not completely accurate to subtract them like this, because it ignores cold 4bets, 3bets, etc. \

    You can only subtract like that when both had the exact same number of opportunities to perform that action.
    So cold call, 4bets and 3bets ignores this vpip vs pfr, so they are just % of vpip? these stat are external to any substrat of pfr, but just a substrat of main aggregation Vpip?

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    They are separate subsets of PFR, which is a subset of VPIP.
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