no-3bet definition

[Winged Guy]

Hey)

We have a note definition, that describes that
note recipient had the opportunity to c-bet in SRP from MP vs ip-player, which comes from:

PF
-no call before
- no raise before
- player raises
- no raise after

F:
- hu
- oop

But for some reason we also get the hands where there WAS pf-3bet as "success" (attached one - imo it should not be success).

Could you help me to understand, why is it so?

hand.txt
CB_MPvsBTN_opportunity.xml

[sreticentv]

- player raises
- no raise after

This is the part that's not right. You seem to be inferring that by not having specified an action that we are excluding it but that's not how it works. You have to select "player's final action this street" for the "raise" action which makes it such that he couldn't have faced a three bet.

Also I'm not sure why you're making an opportunity definition. Is it for use in a composite? You should make the full definition including the flop action sequence. Then if you need to use the opportunity aspect of it you can do it in a composite like

NC."CB_MPvsBTN".Opportunities

[Winged Guy]

0) I actually think i've specified that there is no re-raise after "our" raise. So i believe it should work ~the same way as "player's final action this street". Am i wrong?


1) If i put "players final action this street is raise" - does it include both spots:
- raise
- raise + raise (which is 4bet usually)
or only the first one?

2) So if i need to make a definition for how often player CB when MP vs BTN, i should make this composite expression:
100 * NC."CB_MPvsBTN" / NC."CB_MPvsBTN".Opportunities
right?
and sample should be NC."CB_MPvsBTN".Opportunities ?

[sreticentv]

0) I actually think i've specified that there is no re-raise after "our" raise. So i believe it should work ~the same way as "player's final action this street". Am i wrong?

There's a checkbox that says "player's final action this street" in the action sequence. That's not checked anywhere in what you uploaded

1) If i put "players final action this street is raise" - does it include both spots:
- raise
- raise + raise (which is 4bet usually)
or only the first one?

only the first

2) So if i need to make a definition for how often player CB when MP vs BTN, i should make this composite expression:
100 * NC."CB_MPvsBTN" / NC."CB_MPvsBTN".Opportunities
right?
and sample should be NC."CB_MPvsBTN".Opportunities ?

That looks right but make sure to run the tests

[Winged Guy]

2) So if i need to make a definition for how often player CB when MP vs BTN, i should make this composite expression:
100 * NC."CB_MPvsBTN" / NC."CB_MPvsBTN".Opportunities
right?
and sample should be NC."CB_MPvsBTN".Opportunities ?

Are you sure this works ?
Cause i get an error "missing operator"

[sreticentv]

You may need to put .Instances after the first NC."CB_MPvsBTN" and also use parenthesis closing after that and opening before the 100

[Winged Guy]

I believe i've tried all combinations of xxx.instances / xxx.opportunities and put parenthesis everywhere, but i still get the "missing operator" error.

I even tried as simple as
Sample expression = (100)*(XXX.Instances)
and the error is the same

Also when i type
"NC.XXX."
i have these options in drop-down menu:
- "NC.XXX."Instances
- "NC.XXX."Bigblindsperhand

And no .opportunities are offered

[sreticentv]

My apologies for the confusion. I overcomplicated this as I had initially misunderstood you. I have attached a definition that shows the percentage of the time someone cbets MP vs BTN.

Flop_Cbet_MP_v_BTN.xml

If you want a definition that shows only the opportunities you would use this composite
Flop_Could_Cbet_MP_v_BTN.xml

[Winged Guy]

Your "Flop_Cbet_MP_v_BTN.xml" works. It also makes the direct % for the c-bet in this spot.

e.g.
Player could c-bet = 20
player did c-bet = 12
c-bet% = 60

Your "Flop_Cbet_MP_v_BTN.xml" = 60 (20),
while i thought NoteCaddy works the way this definition should = 12 (simple number of times player did c-bet in this spot), and that every time we want a note to be count in %% - we need to make Composite definition.
Seems i'm wrong ?

[sreticentv]

If your definition is using "opportunity by action" then NC will do the % (60) so I think that is the opposite of what you were thinking. If you wanted to see the 12 that's where you'd need a composite