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    Default Turn Implicit Weakness/Strength results are opposite

    Hi

    I'm trying to create some notes and add the implicit weakness as an filter.
    I do it successfully on the flop CB note.
    But it shows opposite results on the turn on the turn CB note.

    For example, I pick the implicit weakness and run the "Seek Output" and the result contains the
    "{impl.strength}" and no "{impl.weakness}".
    If I pick the implicit strength and run the "Seek Output" and the result contains the
    "{impl.weakness}" and no "{impl.strength}".

    How does this happen?

    Thanks your help.
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    There is not information in this post to give an adequate answer.

    Please attach the definition for which you are seeing the unexpected result and an example hand from seek. You can export the hand directly from seek by right clicking anywhere in the replayer
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    Definition: Find out the 3 bettor C-Bet turn and finally give up.
    I define the C-Bet @ "Action Sequences" and UNSELECT "Implicit Strength" @ "Range" on the "Turn" tab.

    There is one example it seeked that showed "{impl.strength}"
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    saw flop | saw showdown

    CO ($10)
    Button ($20.60)
    SB ($21.41)
    BB ($18.38)
    UTG ($15.31)
    MP ($6.75)

    Preflop:
    4 folds, SB raises to $0.30, BB raises to $0.90, SB calls $0.60
    Flop: ($1.80) 8h, Qs, 6s (2 players)
    SB checks, BB bets $1.10, SB calls $1.10
    Turn: ($4) 8d (2 players)
    SB checks, BB bets $2, SB calls $2
    River: ($8) 9c (2 players)
    SB checks, BB bets $5.75, 1 fold
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    I also do the similar note on the flop.

    Definition: Find out the 3 bettor C-Bet flop and finally give up.
    I define the C-Bet @ "Action Sequences" and UNSELECT "Implicit Strength" @ "Range" on the "Flop" tab.

    It actually finds out the "{impl.weakness}" results and no "{impl.strength}" result.

    Thanks.

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    http://forums.holdemmanager.com/note...ead-first.html

    I still can't do anything with this, unfortunately. I need the definition as an attachment and a hand history that can be used in the test environment
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    Description: I want to find the 3-Bettor C-Bet turn and give up eventually.
    The hand history shows the result
    READ: [F]{3BP.T}_CBet_GiveUp {impl. strength}(1) *SUCCESS* PLAYER: jmajic

    Thnaks
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    Thank you for attaching the requested items. The hand you attached shows the player betting all three streets and winning without a showdown. This is exactly what implicit strength is. If you want this hand not to get a note then you have to set up a range filter on the flop and unselect all the items besides implicit weakness. However, that wouldn't count if the guy bets the turn then not the river as implicit weakness is only if he doesn't bet again.
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    I know this hands is implicit strength. My question is why do I unselect "implicit strength" and I still get all the results {impl. strength}?
    I also follow your instruction "set up a range filter on the flop and unselect all the items besides implicit weakness" and others remain the same. I can't get any results.
    Can you help me to modify the note? I want it shows the 3-bettor bet flop, bet turn and eventually fold the hand(either in turn or river).
    I can get the results I want from the attached note "{3BP.T}_CBet_GiveUp_2" but it doesn't make sense to me.
    Why do I I unselect "implicit weakness" instead of "implicit strength" to get the result.

    READ: [F]{3BP.T}_CBet_GiveUp_2 {impl. weakness}(1) *SUCCESS* PLAYER: x Ez3KiieL x

    Thanks.
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    You're right. This should work as you made it. My apologies for the inconvenience. The next NC release will have a fix for this.
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    I see. Thanks your work.

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