Pokerstars Knockout SNG EV

[Troublemaker55]

Hey!

Does the ICM EV calculation work correctly for the knockout SNGs ?

[Patvs]

The ICM works, but only makes a calculation based on the normal payout structure of the STT.
It does not take into account knockouts.

[Troublemaker55]

This shouldn't be too hard to add, no? Equity*Bounty (in percentage of the prizepool) and add that to the existing icm calculations. Of course only when you have someone covered in chips.

Could you put that on your to-do list? Knockout SNGs are now more popular than the standard format.

[Patvs]

The single table Knockout STTs are not that popular.

Also the ICM also using the knockout is more difficult to implement than you'd expect:
-HoldemManager doesn't calculate EV once a hand is finished but during a hand (basically only looking for All-in EV situations)
-With knockouts, it needs to check for all those hand when an all-in takes place, if one of those players can knockout the other.
Resulting in a EV Diff.

I've written this up as feature request ticket HM-8023

[justins]

I've got HM 2.0.0.8415 and it looks like that HM doesn't calculate $EV for pokerstars knockout sngs correctly. Am I right?

[udbrky]

Any tournament with more than 1 table (and many single table games) will require a separate Tournament Summary/History file to be imported for HM2 to properly calculate the size, places, and prizes. Without this information its impossible for HM2 to know the correct results. If you have any discrepancies you will need to edit the results manually - Hold'Em Manager 2 FAQs - Poker Software :: Reports / Tournaments/ Tournament/ Tournament Editor

You may need to request and import any/all of your old tournament histories and import those to HM2 to correct issues with old tournaments showing wrong results. Stars did not write the tourney summaries to your hard drive in the past, like FTP did, so please enable the option in the PokerStars client via their lobby options and make sure that HM2 has added both the hand history and summary folder to your Auto Import Folder Configuration and this will ensure future tournaments have correct results automatically.
Hold'Em Manager 2 FAQs - Poker Software :: Poker Stars Setup

For older tournaments email support@pokerstars.com and ask for ALL your old Hand Histories and Tournament Audit Files in .htm format. They will send you an email with links to zip files of your hand histories. Download all the zip files. Right-Click > Extract the contents of each zip file to a new folder and then manually import those files by going to the Importing option in the HM Ribbon menu and choosing import from folders in the manual import section. You may see import errors as some of these hands are probably already imported.

The tournament summaries should be attached to the email as .htm files. Download the attachments and repeat the process of importing all the files. If the files are sent as .html you will need to rename them (Right-Click > Rename) from .html to .htm extensions otherwise they will not import. You can view this FAQ for more information on importing emailed hand histories:
Hold'Em Manager 2 FAQs - Poker Software :: How are emailed hands imported into Holdem Manager?

If you continue to have problems please zip and email the problem hand histories to us.

All original hands that are auto-imported get moved to an archive for performance reasons. Your \HM2Archive is in C:\HM2Archive by default, but you may have put it anywhere. The archive should be organized by \Month\DayOfMonth e.g C:\HM2Archive\2009\07\31 or if it was auto-imported with v7283+ it would be in C:\HM2Archive\SiteName\YYYY\MM\DD.

When sending any files please zip them (right-click > send to > compressed folder) before attaching them to an email. If the attachment is larger than 10MB please upload them to a file hosting site like dropbox, then 'copy public link' and paste the download link directly into the support ticket email.