Multiway allin not showing up as allin
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    Default Multiway allin not showing up as allin

    When you go allin vs multiple opponents who call your allin and have you covered,
    the hand doesn't register as an allin hand and no allin EV is calculated.

    I don't know it this has been reported before, but i noticed it several times now
    and manually updating the database is getting annoying.

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    Please send us some sample hands (the original handhistory from c:\hmarchive) with link to this thread and explanation to support@holdemmanager.com

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    I think I have couple hands related to this issue:


    PokerStars Game #55278035400: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10 USD) - 2011/01/03 10:48:37 MSK [2011/01/03 2:48:37 ET]
    Table 'Derice V' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 1: ZoRk EnRaged ($1.85 in chips)
    Seat 2: OldMajPro ($2 in chips)
    Seat 3: Godkiller84 ($10.91 in chips)
    Seat 4: magicAAlegs ($8.07 in chips)
    Seat 5: Michelle0203 ($10.48 in chips)
    Seat 6: Zzhil ($5 in chips)
    Michelle0203: posts small blind $0.05
    Zzhil: posts big blind $0.10
    OldMajPro: posts big blind $0.10
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to ZoRk EnRaged [Kc Kh]
    ZoRk EnRaged: raises $0.30 to $0.40
    OldMajPro: calls $0.30
    Godkiller84: folds
    magicAAlegs: calls $0.40
    Michelle0203: calls $0.35
    Zzhil: folds
    *** FLOP *** [5c 6s 4d]
    Michelle0203: checks
    ZoRk EnRaged: bets $1.45 and is all-in
    OldMajPro: calls $1.45
    magicAAlegs: calls $1.45
    Michelle0203: calls $1.45
    *** TURN *** [5c 6s 4d] [As]
    Michelle0203: checks
    OldMajPro: checks
    magicAAlegs: bets $0.30
    Michelle0203: calls $0.30
    OldMajPro: calls $0.15 and is all-in
    *** RIVER *** [5c 6s 4d As] [Jc]
    Michelle0203: checks
    magicAAlegs: bets $0.40
    Michelle0203: calls $0.40
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    magicAAlegs: shows [Ad 7d] (a pair of Aces)
    Michelle0203: mucks hand
    magicAAlegs collected $1.04 from side pot-2
    OldMajPro: mucks hand
    magicAAlegs collected $0.45 from side pot-1
    ZoRk EnRaged: mucks hand
    magicAAlegs collected $7.13 from main pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $9.05 Main pot $7.13. Side pot-1 $0.45. Side pot-2 $1.04. | Rake $0.43
    Board [5c 6s 4d As Jc]
    Seat 1: ZoRk EnRaged mucked [Kc Kh]
    Seat 2: OldMajPro mucked [Ts 8s]
    Seat 3: Godkiller84 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: magicAAlegs (button) showed [Ad 7d] and won ($8.62) with a pair of Aces
    Seat 5: Michelle0203 (small blind) mucked [8d 5s]
    Seat 6: Zzhil (big blind) folded before Flop
    This hand is registered as an All-in at the flop, but all-in EV is not calculated even though all hole cards are known and replayer does calculate equity at different streets.

    And the other one, not quite the same, but I think it's related:


    PokerStars Game #55219869852: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10 USD) - 2011/01/02 11:53:22 MSK [2011/01/02 3:53:22 ET]
    Table 'Etamin III' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 1: SemiBluff79 ($6 in chips)
    Seat 2: rmsims82 ($7.86 in chips)
    Seat 3: mr:Mac pep ($4.32 in chips)
    Seat 4: borovoe84 ($5.25 in chips)
    Seat 5: ZoRk EnRaged ($1.75 in chips)
    Seat 6: Nistarh ($6.02 in chips)
    ZoRk EnRaged: posts small blind $0.05
    Nistarh: posts big blind $0.10
    mr:Mac pep: posts small & big blinds $0.15
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to ZoRk EnRaged [Kh Kc]
    SemiBluff79: calls $0.10
    rmsims82: folds
    mr:Mac pep: checks
    borovoe84: folds
    ZoRk EnRaged: raises $1.65 to $1.75 and is all-in
    Nistarh: folds
    SemiBluff79: calls $1.65
    mr:Mac pep: calls $1.65
    *** FLOP *** [8s 5c As]
    SemiBluff79: checks
    mr:Mac pep: checks
    *** TURN *** [8s 5c As] [4c]
    SemiBluff79: checks
    mr:Mac pep: bets $2.52 and is all-in
    SemiBluff79: folds
    Uncalled bet ($2.52) returned to mr:Mac pep
    *** RIVER *** [8s 5c As 4c] [6d]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    ZoRk EnRaged: shows [Kh Kc] (a pair of Kings)
    mr:Mac pep: shows [4h 4s] (three of a kind, Fours)
    mr:Mac pep collected $5.13 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $5.40 | Rake $0.27
    Board [8s 5c As 4c 6d]
    Seat 1: SemiBluff79 folded on the Turn
    Seat 2: rmsims82 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: mr:Mac pep showed [4h 4s] and won ($5.13) with three of a kind, Fours
    Seat 4: borovoe84 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: ZoRk EnRaged (small blind) showed [Kh Kc] and lost with a pair of Kings
    Seat 6: Nistarh (big blind) folded before Flop
    In this hand HM shows correctly that I went all-in at preflop, but All-in EV is 4.5% which is Turn equity. Had I won this hand at river I'd get huge -EV and that would be very inaccurate.

    (HM version 1.11.05e)

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    Please mail them to support@holdemmanager.com. We need the original file from the archive.

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