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    Default positions (EP, MP) in popup stats

    I was wondering what positions are actually taken into account for EP and MP. I couldn't find this anywhere.

    in a Fullring game, you'd have UTG, UTG+1 and UTG2 as Early position (EP)
    and MP1, MP2, MP3 as MP, then CO, BU, SB, BB

    in Shorthanded, it starts with MP2, but is it the same for the popup position stats?

    Does the shorthanded UTG (also referred to as MP2) count towards MP or EP?

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    Not sure what you mean, which stat exactly or where in the popup is the stat you have the query about?
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    for 6 players or less:-

    UTG = EP
    UTG+1= MP
    UTG+2 = CO

    For 10 max:-

    UTG and UTG+1 = EP
    UTG+2 and UTG+3 = MP

    You might want to set your hud filters to exclude 6 max hands from full ring games, if that's what you play normally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike chops View Post
    for 6 players or less:-

    UTG = EP
    UTG+1= MP
    UTG+2 = CO

    For 10 max:-

    UTG and UTG+1 = EP
    UTG+2 and UTG+3 = MP

    thx mike, this is what i meant

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike chops View Post
    for 6 players or less:-

    UTG = EP
    UTG+1= MP
    UTG+2 = CO

    For 10 max:-

    UTG and UTG+1 = EP
    UTG+2 and UTG+3 = MP

    You might want to set your hud filters to exclude 6 max hands from full ring games, if that's what you play normally.
    Shouldn't there be three early positions for 10 max:
    UTG, UTG+1, UTG+2 = EP
    MP1, MP2, MP3 = MP
    and then CO, BU, SB and BB

    and for 9max two early positions
    UTG, UTG+1 = EP
    MP1, MP2, MP3 = MP
    and then CO, BU, SB and BB

    Please clarify how this is handled by the program.

    I just looked at the Preflop Cards Tab and there MP1 (UTG+2) is treated as EP for 9max games. So there seem to be three early postions and two middle positions for 9max games.
    For me it's a bug, but maybe it's intentional and done this way in the HUD, too.

    Please let me know how the different positions are specified in the program.

    Thx in advance.

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    An answer would be nice.

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    Yes you are probably right. But I would have to play some some Full Ring hands to check.

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    Just want to remind you to check this. Would be really nice to know, because i base a lot of decisions on the position stats.

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    Still waiting for an answer ...

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    Why don't you play a round of full-ring and let everybody know what the answer to this important question is.

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