Hi,
River Fold after Bet-Call Flop & Turn Bet can be 200% for me, I am not sure of other "after" stats. Please verify, do I need to send any log?
7126 - some stats are not correct
Hi,
River Fold after Bet-Call Flop & Turn Bet can be 200% for me, I am not sure of other "after" stats. Please verify, do I need to send any log?
Hello Singum,
Thank you for bringing this to our attention.
I tested stat on few different hands and was unable to reproduce this issue.
Looks like this is only a problem with a specific situation. Would you happen to have handhistory where this situation occurred so we can have a look at it?
Thanks you!
Here it is: https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B5N...UJQQWZRR19pclE
Check that stat of ilikesashimi
Don't know if it's related, but for the first time ever, since the 7126 update, I'm seeing PFR exceed VPIP. I first saw it on a villain on 1 table, who had a VPIP/PFR of like 18/20. Then later I noticed my own hero stats on 2 other tables were reading like 17/18 and 18/20. Pretty sure this is unpossible.
This is a tracking program. Any wrong stat is making us lose money. I think the test model of HM2 is very unreliable.
I only can notice some wrong stat if it's completely impossible. I don't know if there are other wrong stats with smaller margins.
If the stats are calculated from "opportunities", then I think PFR can be > VPIP.Originally Posted by Veteran68
Don't know if it's related, but for the first time ever, since the 7126 update, I'm seeing PFR exceed VPIP. I first saw it on a villain on 1 table, who had a VPIP/PFR of like 18/20. Then later I noticed my own hero stats on 2 other tables were reading like 17/18 and 18/20. Pretty sure this is unpossible.
Can someone from HM team confirm this is a bug from my HH?
Situation: Hero plays SNG (32 hands)
he had 32 opportunities to do VPIP - correct?
he DID vpip 3 times
and all 3 times he did this in form of PFR
so VPIP = 3/32 - correct?
Continue...
when he played, he encountered allin from shortstacks 2 times.
In new HM logic, in these 2 hands he has NO opportunity to do PFR.
This means: total # of oppotruniries for PFR is (32 - 2) = 30
so PFR = 3 / 30
correct?
now even without running Calc.exe :
is (3/30) bigger than (3/32) ???
YES
Hello Singum,
Thank you for posting the hand histories above.
I was waiting for developers to include the fix into build before posting, but since you are requesting a reply I would like to inform you that we have already released the fix for this issue internally in built 7134.
Fix will be included in any builds following 7134 that will be posted in our forum: http://forums.holdemmanager.com/hm2-releases/
Please be assured we take stat issues very seriously and they take high priority over any other issues.
If you have any more questions or concerns, please feel free to ask.
The way you explain it here, yes. But according to the bolded part, you're saying this is a new change -- which I assumed it had to be (or a bug), because I'd never noticed it before, then after this last update it was happening on nearly every table. So I guess my question would be, why are you changing a universally understood stat? To my knowledge, and I'll poll some fellow online players to be sure, but historically PFR has always been calculated based on action and NOT opportunity. In all my years of using trackers, and not just HM, this has been the case as far as I remember. Stats like VPIP and PFR are almost universally understood to mean something very specific, so why would you want to deviate from the norm here?
It brings to mind the same debate we had a couple years ago over VPIP calculation, another formula that everyone takes for granted yet PT3 and HEM calculated them slightly differently. And I happened to agree that PT was correct there as well. It's a bit off-putting to see common stats like this that are calculated differently for no apparent reason. I'd sure like to hear the reasoning behind these decisions.
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