Run good or run bad?
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  1. #1
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    Default Run good or run bad?


    I'm pretty new to Hold'em manager. I'm trying to figure out the best way to see if I run good or bad. I play mostly limit poker, so the all-in EV graph is not that useful (I guess).

    I tried one thing. After a session, I filter to all my hands that I went to showdown.

    Then, for each hand, I average my EV (% of winning as given by HM in the hand replayer) preflop, on the flop and on the turn.

    For example, in my last session, I played some hands. 30 hands went to showdown.

    My average EV preflop was 53.1%, on the flop 57.3% and on the turn 51.9%

    I then compare to my W$SD which is at 43.3 for those 30 hands and I see that I've been running bad.

    I know the sample size is pretty low and that's why if I'm wondering if there is a better way to estimate the run good/run bad factor. And if not, would there be anyway to automate those calculations, maybe with custom stats? It wasn't too long with 30 hands, but it would take a lot longer to do it with a couple thousands hands.

    Any help would be appreciated!

    EDIT: Seems like something is wrong with the WTSD%

    I played 465 hands and my WTSD% is 31.6, so according to HM, I should have seen a showdown for 147 hands. But when I use the filter SAW SHOWDOWN = TRUE, only 30 hands show up.

    How come??
    Last edited by mdesjard; 02-13-2010 at 05:09 PM.

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    I don't know how to analyze Limit, but I would be glad to try and help answer the other technical questions. Here is a copy of my answer to your post at 2p2.

    If you want to send me your original hands from the archive I can try to look at this in-depth. Please 7-Zip the hands and email them to me at, with a link to this thread, and your forum name. Your \HMArchive is likely not in your \Holdem Manager directory. We normally suggest you use C:\HMArchive, but you may have put it anywhere.

    To verify the location: Options > Configure Auto Import Folders > Edit > Archive Folder: ___________________

    FAQ - Hold'em Manager Poker Tracking Software :: Warning: You have XXX Hand History Files in your Auto Import Folders

    The archive should be organized by \Month\DayOfMonth (example: D:\HMArchive\2009\07\31).

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    Thanks a lot, I appreciate the quick reply.

    As I said on 2p2, I figured out the problem, WTSD% is a percentage of hands that saw the flop and went to showdown, not all hands.

    As for the rest, I'm just wondering if I can access my equity preflop, on the flop and on the turn. It seems to be available for no-limit as the All-in EV, but that's not exactly what I need, I need just the equity in all situations, not when I'm all-in.

    I guess it's harder to display since it doesn't apply to all hands, obviously, you need to know the cards of at least one opponent.

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    This is not an available feature at the moment. Please suggest it or vote for it here: Customer Feedback & Ideas for HoldemManager

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