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    Default #2 - General Strength

    In this example i recieve SUCCESS When General Strength Min<=55, and "Turn strength too low" when Gen. Str. Min. >55.

    Why 55, when Test show Turn strength 0.78?


    Even, If i uncheck "TT underpair" and pair/Flash Draw i still have SUCCESS with Gen. Str. Min < 56....

    How this can be?


    01_01_PR,OOP,F_Bet,T_4k-Strong.xml


    ***** History for hand R5-190341701-251 *****
    Start hand: Wed Nov 09 02:57:00 GMT 2011
    Table: Tripolis [190341701] (NO_LIMIT TEXAS_HOLDEM $0.50/$1, Real money)
    Button: seat 1
    Players in Round: 4
    Seat 1: x_sid007 ($94.95)
    Seat 2: fish_royal ($105.1)
    Seat 4: NoeN90 ($273.55)
    Seat 10: HateMeeAgain ($161.79)
    fish_royal posts small blind ($0.50)
    NoeN90 posts big blind ($1)
    ---
    Dealing pocket cards
    HateMeeAgain raises $3.0 to $3.0
    x_sid007 calls $3.0
    fish_royal folds
    NoeN90 folds
    --- Dealing flop [3s, 2s, 6c]
    HateMeeAgain bets $5.5
    x_sid007 calls $5.5
    --- Dealing turn [Js]
    HateMeeAgain checks
    x_sid007 bets $9.25
    HateMeeAgain calls $9.25
    --- Dealing river [Qd]
    HateMeeAgain checks
    x_sid007 checks
    ---
    Summary:
    Main pot: $37 won by HateMeeAgain ($35.15)
    Seat 1: x_sid007 ($77.2), net: -$17.75, [4h, 4d]
    Seat 2: fish_royal ($104.6), net: -$0.5
    Seat 4: NoeN90 ($272.55), net: -$1.0
    Seat 10: HateMeeAgain ($179.19), net: +$17.4, [Tc, Ts]
    ***** End of hand R5-190341701-251 *****
    Last edited by Olaf; 03-28-2012 at 05:02 PM.

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    The test environment was showing the strength by the old calculation system. That has been changed now

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    Quote Originally Posted by sreticentv View Post
    The test environment was showing the strength by the old calculation system. That has been changed now

    2.2.2.7
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    change general strength calculation algorithm to use less CPU time


    Where i can read about this new algorithm? What are the new values​​?

    Sreti, do you remember, that in Range Tab > "Test" show old calculation? You left it specifically?


    UPD.
    Some experiment:

    1) Tc Ts on desk: 3s 2s 6c Js
    Old Turn Strength 0.78, New Turn Strength - 55

    (~30% difference)

    2) Qd Tc on desk: Ah Ad Td 5c
    Old Turn Strength 0.86, New Turn Strength - 80
    (~7% difference)

    With an new algorithm is all right?
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    That's right the test tab needs to show the new value. Thanks for letting me know

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    Quote Originally Posted by sreticentv View Post
    That's right the test tab needs to show the new value. Thanks for letting me know
    Ty sreti, but

    Where i can read about this new algorithm? What are the new values​​?


    UPD.
    Some experiment:
    Why such a variation in the ratio of old and new numbers?

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    There's not any detailed documentation about how the numbers were reached yet. They are now meant to use less CPU time so HM2 doesn't get slowed down by it but the numbers will be more consistent since they come from a lookup table now

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    Quote Originally Posted by sreticentv View Post
    There's not any detailed documentation about how the numbers were reached yet. They are now meant to use less CPU time so HM2 doesn't get slowed down by it but the numbers will be more consistent since they come from a lookup table now

    I Try it with Google translate, but but did not understand until the end....

    So, now me can't use General Strength in our defs?


    Board: As Ad Qd 3c

    Kc Kh - Strength 13

    4c 3d - Strength 80



    Board: Qd Ts 9h 3s

    8h 8d - Strength 68

    Kc Kh - Strength 68

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    The orange dot showing over to the right is a huge shove all in, he had AK with a low strength
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olaf View Post
    I Try it with Google translate, but but did not understand until the end....

    So, now me can't use General Strength in our defs?


    Board: As Ad Qd 3c

    Kc Kh - Strength 13

    4c 3d - Strength 80



    Board: Qd Ts 9h 3s

    8h 8d - Strength 68

    Kc Kh - Strength 68
    hm yeah that didn't come up in the tests (hard to test every possible scenario). Maybe need to revert to the old system for now. Thanks for letting me know!

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