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    Default effective stack filter bug

    When I set Effective Stack (BB) filter to "More than 0" it returns 83679 hands, there are 98251 in my database though (shown with no filters), so there must be something wrong with the filter.

    Anybody had the same problem? Anyway to fix this or find its root cause?

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    Which HM version?

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    1.09 beta 30b.

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    Please try with the latest beta and if it still occurs please mail some screenshots with a link to this thread to fabio@holdemmanager.net.
    I think thats a good start after his vacation

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    Yes happened with 1.09 beta 33 also. I think I'm going to try to re-import all of the hands (if I can find them) to see if that would fix it. If not there must be a bug in the importer or the filter. I'll get back to you.

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    Ok I tried re-importing all hands, didn't work out. 102985 hands in db and with "eff stack > 0" filter displays only 87676 hands. I e-mailed Fabio.

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    I think I found out what hands it excludes with the filter. If I'm out of position (BB) in headsup and villain folds the button the hands don't show up no matter what the stack sizes are. For example:

    ***** Hand History for Game 1368314272 ***** (Entraction)
    $100.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, September 21, 06:01:56 ET 2009
    Table Faura (Real Money)
    Seat 2 is the button
    Seat 1: Hero ( $201.90 USD )
    Seat 2: Villain ( $20.85 USD )
    Hero posts big blind [$1.00 USD].
    Villain posts small blind [$0.50 USD].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to Hero [ Kd Jd ]
    Villain folds
    Hero wins $0.50 USD
    Hero wins $1.00 USD from main pot


    I verified this by setting filter to "Position: Big Blind" and "Preflop Action: None" which returned the missing 15 308 hands.
    Last edited by zoom7; 09-22-2009 at 04:25 PM.

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    Hi, when you are in the big blind and it is folded to you your effective stack size is not valid so that is why these hands are filtered out. Effective Stack measures how much of your stack could be at risk once it is your turn to play preflop and in this case that is 0.

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    It's not very intuitive though, now is it? For example if I want to find out how I've done with effective stacks > 100BB this will skew the results a lot (= a lot of won 1.5BB pots that aren't included) and might lead to wrong conclusions.

    I think this should be changed, or is there any other reason (other than "that's how it is") that would say otherwise? IMO it's just misleading to have this filter work in any other way.

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    Bump...

    It's annoying, it's like the third bug (of course you can argue this isn't a bug but a feature) I've reported and not single one of them have been fixed IIRC (altho at least one did go away itself as Ongame changed their software).

    Can somebody give me explanation WHY the filter works like this?

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