Problem works effective stack size?

[jaxx]

Hello,
I am trying to create a note 'raise/folds with <20bb'

in preflop tab/general - effective stack size I selected 0 - 19

the following hand is counted as success for player A:


player A with 150bb raises utg 2x,
player B with 25bb flats,
player C with 31bb 3bets to 9bb
A and B fold

all 3 players involved have >20bb. how can this be a note for player A?

[sreticentv]

In order to make sure everything is understood properly and to facilitate efficient assistance, please submit any requests for help in the following format:

-A definition as an attachment, do not copy paste the xml. If you haven't created a definition, please include the other items
-A hand history that either shows a success or you would like to have show a success. You can easily find these using HEM filters and it is a great way to truly express what you mean!
-A player's name and whether he a.) got a note but should not have b.) should have got a note but didn't
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[jaxx]

i sent it to support@notecaddy.com
is this the right place?

[sreticentv]

all info needs to be posted here in case someone has the same question they can search for it

[jaxx]

I do a simple definition:
preflop - general tab - I select effective size - 0-19 bb
preflop - actions - I select open min raise, open raise, open oversize raise and fold

why IFIX3g gets the note here when the effective stacks are >20bb ?


***** History for hand T5-147157752-51 (TOURNAMENT: "$14,000 European Rebuy", R-1194-39, buy-in: $22) *****
Start hand: Thu Jun 02 20:53:55 EEST 2011
Table: Table #6 [147157752] (NO_LIMIT TEXAS_HOLDEM 60/120, Chips)
User: Hero
Button: seat 4
Players in round: 9
Seat 1: clancype (3348)
Seat 2: NightFish77 (5595)
Seat 3: Miksu_ (7050)
Seat 4: lilbluff007 (3820)
Seat 5: penana (1500)
Seat 6: Ripster Boy (2760)
Seat 7: IFIX3g (16495)
Seat 8: DanyLuckyBoy (2550)
Seat 9: Hero (3025)
penana posts small blind (60)
Ripster Boy posts big blind (120)
---
Dealing pocket cards
Dealing to Hero: [Ad, Jd]
IFIX3g raises 240 to 240
DanyLuckyBoy folds
Hero calls 240
clancype folds
NightFish77 folds
Miksu_ folds
lilbluff007 raises 1140 to 1140
penana folds
Ripster Boy folds
IFIX3g folds
Hero folds
---
Summary:
Main pot: 900 won by lilbluff007 (900)
Rake taken: $0
Seat 1: clancype (3348)
Seat 2: NightFish77 (5595)
Seat 3: Miksu_ (7050)
Seat 4: lilbluff007 (4480), net: +660
Seat 5: penana (1440), net: -60
Seat 6: Ripster Boy (2640), net: -120
Seat 7: IFIX3g (16255), net: -240
Seat 8: DanyLuckyBoy (2550)
Seat 9: Hero (2785), net: -240
***** End of hand T5-147157752-51 *****

[sreticentv]

SRN_20bb_raise_fold.xml

Here's the definition as you email but didn't attach. Player penana has 12 big blinds which puts the effective stack at 12. If you meant to say the raiser's stack was < 20 that's configured on the same screen but on the left

[jaxx]

ok
I undestand now
is there a way to do a definition saying that the raiser OR the 3bettor must have <20bb ?
or I have to do 2 separate definitions?
if I put the same text on 2 definitions - will it combine them in the same comment?

[sreticentv]

The same description on 2 separate definitions will combine outputs and that's the recommended way to achieve what you're trying to do here

[jaxx]

if I deselect cash game in this definition and put the hand above in the test environment I get message:
íncorrect table type: cash game

why is this hand considered cash hand?


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one more question:

for the following hand history, I do a very simple definition - select only preflop action Open shove and put $cardrange variable in the definition
In the HUD replayer I see that the villain had AK, however in the generated note it is written only {}
why is that?

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<session sessioncode="5166346361">
<general>
<mode>real</mode>
<gametype>Holdem NL</gametype>
<tablename>$8,000 Guaranteed R/A, 657614321, 657614321</tablename>
<duration>N/A</duration>
<gamecount>71</gamecount>
<startdate>2011-12-02 18:00:37</startdate>
<currency>USD</currency>
<nickname>Hero</nickname>
<bets>6,500</bets>
<wins>0</wins>
<chipsin>0</chipsin>
<chipsout>0</chipsout>
<ipoints>15</ipoints>
<statuspoints>15</statuspoints>
<awardpoints>15</awardpoints>
<tournamentname>$8,000 Guaranteed R/A</tournamentname><place>244</place><buyin>$10+$1</buyin> <totalbuyin>$41</totalbuyin> <ipoints>15</ipoints> <win>$0</win> <statuspoints>15</statuspoints> <awardpoints>15</awardpoints>}
</general>
<game gamecode="3871336244">
<general>
<startdate>2011-12-02 18:59:04</startdate>
<players>
<player seat="1" name="UnIVerseAtWar" chips="2,547.50" dealer="0" win="0" bet="0" rebuy="0" addon="0"/><player seat="2" name="AlexaUKR" chips="3,000" dealer="1" win="0" bet="0" rebuy="0" addon="0"/><player seat="3" name="cashmoneyx09" chips="3,090" dealer="0" win="0" bet="100" rebuy="0" addon="0"/><player seat="4" name="Cath20118" chips="8,530" dealer="0" win="8,630" bet="8,530" rebuy="0" addon="0"/><player seat="5" name="83swfclad83" chips="2,972.50" dealer="0" win="0" bet="0" rebuy="0" addon="0"/><player seat="6" name="Midyfon" chips="3,733.75" dealer="0" win="0" bet="0" rebuy="0" addon="0"/><player seat="7" name="MrNoBody10" chips="4,810" dealer="0" win="0" bet="0" rebuy="0" addon="0"/><player seat="8" name="Hero" chips="2,585" dealer="0" win="0" bet="0" rebuy="0" addon="0"/><player seat="10" name="MickyKQ" chips="2,465" dealer="0" win="0" bet="0" rebuy="0" addon="0"/>
</players>
</general>
<round no="0">
<action no="1" player="cashmoneyx09" type="1" sum="50" cards="[cards]"/><action no="2" player="Cath20118" type="2" sum="100" cards="[cards]"/>
</round>
<round no="1">
<cards type="Pocket" player="UnIVerseAtWar">X X</cards><action no="8" player="UnIVerseAtWar" type="0" sum="0" cards=""/><cards type="Pocket" player="AlexaUKR">X X</cards><action no="9" player="AlexaUKR" type="0" sum="0" cards=""/><cards type="Pocket" player="cashmoneyx09">X X</cards><action no="10" player="cashmoneyx09" type="3" sum="50" cards=""/><action no="12" player="cashmoneyx09" type="0" sum="0" cards=""/><cards type="Pocket" player="Cath20118">HA SK</cards><action no="11" player="Cath20118" type="23" sum="8,530" cards=""/><cards type="Pocket" player="83swfclad83">X X</cards><action no="3" player="83swfclad83" type="0" sum="0" cards=""/><cards type="Pocket" player="Midyfon">X X</cards><action no="4" player="Midyfon" type="0" sum="0" cards=""/><cards type="Pocket" player="MrNoBody10">X X</cards><action no="5" player="MrNoBody10" type="0" sum="0" cards=""/><cards type="Pocket" player="Hero">D8 D4</cards><action no="6" player="Hero" type="0" sum="0" cards=""/><cards type="Pocket" player="MickyKQ">X X</cards><action no="7" player="MickyKQ" type="0" sum="0" cards=""/>
</round>

</game>

[sreticentv]

if I deselect cash game in this definition and put the hand above in the test environment I get message:
íncorrect table type: cash game

why is this hand considered cash hand?

NC relies on HM to tell it whether it's cash or tournament. The test environment tries to figure it out itself but fails sometimes. Version 2.2.2.6 is going to have a checkbox that you can use to override that.

for the following hand history, I do a very simple definition - select only preflop action Open shove and put $cardrange variable in the definition
In the HUD replayer I see that the villain had AK, however in the generated note it is written only {}
why is that?

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<session sessioncode="5166346361">
<general>
<mode>real</mode>
<gametype>Holdem NL</gametype>
<tablename>$8,000 Guaranteed R/A, 657614321, 657614321</tablename>
<duration>N/A</duration>
<gamecount>71</gamecount>
<startdate>2011-12-02 18:00:37</startdate>
<currency>USD</currency>
<nickname>Hero</nickname>
<bets>6,500</bets>
<wins>0</wins>
<chipsin>0</chipsin>
<chipsout>0</chipsout>
<ipoints>15</ipoints>
<statuspoints>15</statuspoints>
<awardpoints>15</awardpoints>
<tournamentname>$8,000 Guaranteed R/A</tournamentname><place>244</place><buyin>$10+$1</buyin> <totalbuyin>$41</totalbuyin> <ipoints>15</ipoints> <win>$0</win> <statuspoints>15</statuspoints> <awardpoints>15</awardpoints>}
</general>
<game gamecode="3871336244">
<general>
<startdate>2011-12-02 18:59:04</startdate>
<players>
<player seat="1" name="UnIVerseAtWar" chips="2,547.50" dealer="0" win="0" bet="0" rebuy="0" addon="0"/><player seat="2" name="AlexaUKR" chips="3,000" dealer="1" win="0" bet="0" rebuy="0" addon="0"/><player seat="3" name="cashmoneyx09" chips="3,090" dealer="0" win="0" bet="100" rebuy="0" addon="0"/><player seat="4" name="Cath20118" chips="8,530" dealer="0" win="8,630" bet="8,530" rebuy="0" addon="0"/><player seat="5" name="83swfclad83" chips="2,972.50" dealer="0" win="0" bet="0" rebuy="0" addon="0"/><player seat="6" name="Midyfon" chips="3,733.75" dealer="0" win="0" bet="0" rebuy="0" addon="0"/><player seat="7" name="MrNoBody10" chips="4,810" dealer="0" win="0" bet="0" rebuy="0" addon="0"/><player seat="8" name="Hero" chips="2,585" dealer="0" win="0" bet="0" rebuy="0" addon="0"/><player seat="10" name="MickyKQ" chips="2,465" dealer="0" win="0" bet="0" rebuy="0" addon="0"/>
</players>
</general>
<round no="0">
<action no="1" player="cashmoneyx09" type="1" sum="50" cards="[cards]"/><action no="2" player="Cath20118" type="2" sum="100" cards="[cards]"/>
</round>
<round no="1">
<cards type="Pocket" player="UnIVerseAtWar">X X</cards><action no="8" player="UnIVerseAtWar" type="0" sum="0" cards=""/><cards type="Pocket" player="AlexaUKR">X X</cards><action no="9" player="AlexaUKR" type="0" sum="0" cards=""/><cards type="Pocket" player="cashmoneyx09">X X</cards><action no="10" player="cashmoneyx09" type="3" sum="50" cards=""/><action no="12" player="cashmoneyx09" type="0" sum="0" cards=""/><cards type="Pocket" player="Cath20118">HA SK</cards><action no="11" player="Cath20118" type="23" sum="8,530" cards=""/><cards type="Pocket" player="83swfclad83">X X</cards><action no="3" player="83swfclad83" type="0" sum="0" cards=""/><cards type="Pocket" player="Midyfon">X X</cards><action no="4" player="Midyfon" type="0" sum="0" cards=""/><cards type="Pocket" player="MrNoBody10">X X</cards><action no="5" player="MrNoBody10" type="0" sum="0" cards=""/><cards type="Pocket" player="Hero">D8 D4</cards><action no="6" player="Hero" type="0" sum="0" cards=""/><cards type="Pocket" player="MickyKQ">X X</cards><action no="7" player="MickyKQ" type="0" sum="0" cards=""/>
</round>

</game>

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