Originally Posted by
nilaynilay
in omaha many hands that might seem nuttish might not be so
for a start check the average strength in the def cols on the left
also post the hands in your screen shot
Still, even in omaha on river nuts is nuts
I think there are two problems:
The first problem is that NC doesn't count a river's nuts strength as 100 for PLO. (I already reported about this bug in August: http://forums.holdemmanager.com/gene...tml#post581181)
There is hand from that player with $strengthversusaverage = -16%:
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PokerStars Game #69019972233: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.50/$1.00 USD) - 2011/10/15 21:18:45 CET [2011/10/15 15:18:45 ET]
Table 'Poincare VI' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: INYAFACE21 ($30.90 in chips)
Seat 2: 1sikrex ($67.80 in chips)
Seat 3: vyvojer ($104.10 in chips)
Seat 4: The tilt guy ($33.50 in chips)
Seat 5: Olga12323 ($30 in chips)
Seat 6: maciekzbg ($98.50 in chips)
The tilt guy: posts small blind $0.50
Olga12323: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to vyvojer [Ks 7s 7h Qh]
maciekzbg: folds
INYAFACE21: folds
1sikrex: calls $1
vyvojer: folds
The tilt guy: calls $0.50
Olga12323: checks
*** FLOP *** [6s 8c 9c]
The tilt guy: checks
Olga12323: bets $2.85
1sikrex: calls $2.85
The tilt guy: folds
*** TURN *** [6s 8c 9c] [Ah]
Olga12323: checks
1sikrex: checks
*** RIVER *** [6s 8c 9c Ah] [Kc]
Olga12323: bets $4
1sikrex: calls $4
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Olga12323: shows [Ac 8s 2s 7c] (a flush, Ace high)
1sikrex: mucks hand
Olga12323 collected $15.90 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $16.70 | Rake $0.80
Board [6s 8c 9c Ah Kc]
Seat 1: INYAFACE21 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: 1sikrex mucked [5s Jd 9s 9d]
Seat 3: vyvojer (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: The tilt guy (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: Olga12323 (big blind) showed [Ac 8s 2s 7c] and won ($15.90) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 6: maciekzbg folded before Flop (didn't bet)
The player has nuts, but hand's strength was only 96%:
NutsIs96.JPG
The second problem is the average strength.
I followed your instructions and got very improbable value:
Halfpot.JPG
It's impossible, that a average river half-potter has strength 97%.
But logically $strengthversusaverage can be -16%, because nuts have only 96%. So the definition is right, but the hand strength and the average hand strength are wrong.