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    PokerStars Game #66036364734: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25 USD) - 2011/08/15 12:48:57 CET [2011/08/15 6:48:57 ET]
    Table 'Angetenar III' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: Filasse ($25 in chips)
    Seat 2: chenconhaste ($6.88 in chips)
    Seat 3: w hubbuch ($5.06 in chips)
    Seat 4: Hero ($31.20 in chips)
    Seat 5: Ornulfo ($35.98 in chips)
    Seat 6: xabababa ($10.75 in chips)
    Filasse: posts small blind $0.10
    chenconhaste: posts big blind $0.25
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero[Kh Ks]
    w hubbuch: calls $0.25
    Hero: raises $0.75 to $1
    Ornulfo: folds
    xabababa: folds
    Filasse: raises $2 to $3
    chenconhaste: folds
    w hubbuch: folds
    Hero: raises $5 to $8
    Filasse: raises $16.50 to $24.50
    Hero: raises $6.70 to $31.20 and is all-in
    Filasse: calls $0.50 and is all-in
    Uncalled bet ($6.20) returned to Hero
    *** FLOP *** [Qd 8s 3h]
    *** TURN *** [Qd 8s 3h] [4h]
    *** RIVER *** [Qd 8s 3h 4h] [7d]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Hero: shows [Kh Ks] (a pair of Kings)
    Filasse collected $48.50 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $50.50 | Rake $2
    Board [Qd 8s 3h 4h 7d]
    Seat 1: Filasse (small blind) showed [As Ad] and won ($48.50) with a pair of Aces
    Seat 2: chenconhaste (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 3: w hubbuch folded before Flop
    Seat 4: Hero showed [Kh Ks] and lost with a pair of Kings
    Seat 5: Ornulfo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: xabababa (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)


    In this hand my odds of losing are 82%, so in the long run I will lose 0.82 * $25 = $20.50. I should lose 20.50 and lost 25 so the EV$Diff should therefore be $25 - $20.50 = + $4.50. As the screenshot shows, HEM however calculates the EV$Diff as $8.76, which can't be correct? Is this a bug or is my calculation off?

    Thanks,
    Mike
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    When I imported the hand I got EV Diff = 0 (which is also wrong)

    Can you email us the original handhistory file to support@holdemmanager.com
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    In importing the original handhistory I also got +$8.76 $EV Diff.
    Which is accurate.

    The total pot is $50.50.
    You have a 18% chance to win it.

    So if you lose (82% of the time) your EV is: 18% * $50.50 = +$8.76
    If you win (18% of the time) your EV is: 82% * $50.50 = -$41.74

    Both calculations take the full $50.50 pot into account.
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