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    ***** Hand History for Game 1630934216 ***** (IPoker)
    $200.00 USD PL Omaha - Saturday, May 23, 02:16:43 ET 2009
    Table Goran (No DP) (Real Money)
    Seat 9 is the button
    Seat 2: TheDude1860 ( $198.00 USD )
    Seat 3: x ( $37.00 USD )
    Seat 4: bigmiggy1 ( $40.00 USD )
    Seat 5: bennybordsben ( $85.80 USD )
    Seat 6: MrAgdgdgwengo ( $472.37 USD )
    Seat 7: gecco001 ( $441.10 USD )
    Seat 8: xXxArtiK42xXx ( $188.00 USD )
    Seat 9: snoooperr ( $113.15 USD )
    TheDude1860 posts small blind [$1.00 USD].
    x posts big blind [$2.00 USD].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to x [ Kh Ad 7d As ]
    bigmiggy1 folds
    bennybordsben folds
    MrAgdgdgwengo raises [$7.00 USD]
    gecco001 folds
    xXxArtiK42xXx folds
    snoooperr raises [$24.00 USD]
    TheDude1860 folds
    x raises [$35.00 USD]
    MrAgdgdgwengo calls [$30.00 USD]
    snoooperr calls [$13.00 USD]
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ 2s, 4s, Js ]
    MrAgdgdgwengo checks
    snoooperr checks
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ Kd ]
    MrAgdgdgwengo bets [$56.00 USD]
    snoooperr folds
    ** Dealing River ** [ Td ]
    MrAgdgdgwengo wins $165.00 USD from main pot
    MrAgdgdgwengo shows [8s, Ks Qd 9c ]

    I was 64/36 against him when I push allin preflop.
    My allin EV graph and my winning graph down 37$.

    ***** Hand History for Game 1630968889 ***** (IPoker)
    $200.00 USD PL Omaha - Saturday, May 23, 02:38:36 ET 2009
    Table Goran (No DP) (Real Money)
    Seat 1 is the button
    Seat 1: SpewDonk ( $60.60 USD )
    Seat 2: TheDude1860 ( $197.00 USD )
    Seat 3: x ( $40.00 USD )
    Seat 4: bigmiggy1 ( $70.00 USD )
    Seat 5: bennybordsben ( $123.65 USD )
    Seat 7: shark44446 ( $72.00 USD )
    Seat 10: abadname ( $65.65 USD )
    TheDude1860 posts small blind [$1.00 USD].
    x posts big blind [$2.00 USD].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to x [ 9d 9s Kd 5c ]
    bigmiggy1 folds
    bennybordsben folds
    shark44446 folds
    abadname calls [$2.00 USD]
    SpewDonk folds
    TheDude1860 folds
    x checks
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ 9c, 4c, 8s ]
    x bets [$5.00 USD]
    abadname raises [$20.00 USD]
    x raises [$33.00 USD]
    abadname calls [$18.00 USD]
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ 8h ]
    ** Dealing River ** [ Tc ]
    x wins $78.00 USD from main pot
    abadname shows [Kc, 6c Ks 5d ]

    64/36 when I push allin.
    Ev graph only grow 10$ lol.

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    $76.00 effective pot x 64% = $49 won on average

    You won $76 so approx $27 more than you would with average luck

    See attached graph

    Couldnt import the 2nd hand properly but if you apply the same maths youll get the same result i would imagine.
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    No there is a problem with omaha manager.Look at this hand :

    ***** Hand History for Game 1617955216 ***** (IPoker)
    $50.00 USD PL Omaha - Saturday, May 16, 09:50:32 ET 2009
    Table Nicer (No DP 50 bb min) (Real Money)
    Seat 8 is the button
    Seat 1: vodoplav ( $48.77 USD )
    Seat 2: Smiffy007 ( $52.45 USD )
    Seat 3: zzbadboy67xx ( $80.55 USD )
    Seat 4: danielbln28 ( $62.52 USD )
    Seat 5: kcpboys ( $22.25 USD )
    Seat 6: Modiano19 ( $49.25 USD )
    Seat 7: Bagarntry ( $88.98 USD )
    Seat 8: x ( $80.66 USD )
    Seat 9: Vivant ( $50.00 USD )
    Seat 10: XXoAnimalXX ( $24.00 USD )
    Vivant posts small blind [$0.25 USD].
    XXoAnimalXX posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to x [ 5s 9d 4h 8d ]
    vodoplav folds
    Smiffy007 folds
    zzbadboy67xx folds
    danielbln28 folds
    kcpboys folds
    Modiano19 raises [$1.75 USD]
    Bagarntry calls [$1.75 USD]
    DaCoon raises [$3.00 USD]
    Vivant folds
    XXoAnimalXX folds
    Modiano19 raises [$9.75 USD]
    Bagarntry calls [$9.75 USD]
    x calls [$8.50 USD]
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ 7d, 6d, 4s ]
    Modiano19 bets [$20.00 USD]
    Bagarntry folds
    x raises [$69.16 USD]
    Modiano19 calls [$17.75 USD]
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ 8s ]
    ** Dealing River ** [ Jc ]
    x wins $139.16 USD from main pot
    Modiano19 shows [As, Ah Th 3c ]

    Odds : 65/35
    Omaha manager calculate an equity of 29.2%

    In the first example AAK7 i push preflop but my equity is 0% lol?

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    With 1.08.04 it shows 97.2% equity for me which looks correct (HM calculates equity on the street where the last action is and he was crushed on the flop needing runner runner to win)

    Try purghing the hand updating and reimporting it
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    Also, omaha manager consider all omaha8 hands on the prima room like omaha hi.

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    Please email the gamehistory.dat file with the Omaha hands in it and also link to this thread support@holdemmanager.net
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