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    does the six max no limit leakbuster work with the new six max no limit rush poker in full tilt poker ?
    and should there be any changes to leaks for that game ?

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    I was thinking about a similar concept, but for the full-ring version. I would really like to know what the Leak Buster recommended ranges would be for this game.

    Also, it seems to me that Leak Buster might need to filter out the Rush Poker hands before doing its scoring algorithm. So we need to have a normal-poker Leak Buster score for a given time period, and we need a separate rush-poker Leak Buster score for the same time period. We choose which game to analyze at the same time that we enter in the date range and 6-max or full-ring.

    I really think that Rush Poker needs to be separated. Even if Leak Buster separates it out, and lets it be well-known to everyone that the recommended ranges are currently educated guesses and in a state of development.

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    What are the rule differences for rush poker?

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    Default ah yes

    http://www.fulltiltpoker.com/rush-poker/details

    basically what happens is you get a lot more hands per hour,
    you fold and can end up instantly in a new hand.

    this part though " After that, the player who has gone the longest without posting will be the big blind for that hand Posting of the small blind and other seating positions are randomized for each hand"
    so I could be all over the board then all the sudden find myself in the big blind.

    you can't observer these hands, so you can't datamine.
    and I don't think the hud moves fast enough to keep track of players you are playing against,, so you end up hudless as well.

    so basically in theory you end up without statistical reads, and you could end up with one stats or another stats messed up as for the session you could end up more in utg , or the small blind ?.

    i am not sure,, it is new , fun and addictive.

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    Yeah, it sounds like you sit and wait for aces and kings since no one knows how you've been playing.

    Brilliant. Let's dilute poker even more.

    As far as separating those hands, until Holdem Manager can make a distinction for them, we can't separate them out. I'm told this will be happening though. When that happens, then we can create a filter for it.
    Last edited by Leak Buster Support; 01-21-2010 at 02:52 AM.

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    Default hmm

    in beta 8b, I don't know if it is necessary to filter it out.

    i mean with the leakbuster stats i am looking from tonight session, i got the correct hand but missing 100 hands.
    however hold them manager when i do it for both days loses hands and then loses the big loss i had.
    and so does leakbuster currently but as you say you guys are working on a filter for it.

    just looking at today though, i had more leaks one or two.

    pretty well the only perfect scores i had was cutoff pfr, and middle position pfr, fold to bb 77,
    nines were vpip at 18 and uo pfr.

    then it went six, 5, 3 , and tons of ones.
    I would equate that to playing way above my bankroll, playing, and some massive sucks out like runner runner diamond, and suited ace queen beat my ace king.
    also preflop i was unwilling to lay down tens, jacks, to not even three bets but 4 bets (some of these guys went past the 3 bet normal price)

    i did make one proud laydown is there was a raise,, i rreraised with queens got a cold caller and the original raiser called and the flop came ace, (forget the other two for it didnt' matter) i instantly folded but went back to the next hand.
    i was only playing 10, sixhanded.

    i am glad that leakbuster was able to get a timeshot of this , even though i can't analyzes yesterday and today rush together.

    also one big loss came when i raise the button, sb called, and it came ace 3 4 so i went all figuring him for weak ace or tens as i had ace jack.
    he thought about it a long time and i said he has ace king, and sure enough eh turned it over.

    there was nothing he did to tell me in rush poker that he had big slick he didnt' reraise from the sb with it, he only bet the normal pot so i didn't put him on ace with a bigger kicker.
    i don't know if that is a domination leak , i did his work for him.

    anyways , i am glad you are working on it, i doubt i will be playing rush anytime soon.. eheh.

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    Yeah, I haven't personally tried it yet. I'm sure I will at some point, but from a purist perspective, it just seems a gimmicky way for the site to gain even quicker rake amounts from players.

    We basically have to wait for holdem manager to have some kind of way to make a distinction in the database for these hands. Once that is done, we can add a filter for it in about 5 minutes.

    I was initially told that this likely won't be until 1.11. But I'm going to ask if it's possible to do this earlier than that.

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    Hi,
    I have istalled Holdem manager yesterday e and imported about 4000 hands of rush poker.
    I'd like to analyze the hands with leak buster but when I try to import stats I get the error message "no data to show!".
    Consider that I have registered leak buster but I don't have registered holdem manager.
    Could you help me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pokeronmars View Post
    Hi,
    I have istalled Holdem manager yesterday e and imported about 4000 hands of rush poker.
    I'd like to analyze the hands with leak buster but when I try to import stats I get the error message "no data to show!".
    Consider that I have registered leak buster but I don't have registered holdem manager.
    Could you help me?
    Please be a little patient w/ us as we learn to adjust to Rush Poker and are able to provide more information. As mentioned previously a filter that will separate out Rush Poker hands is not available at this time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pokeronmars View Post
    Hi,
    I have istalled Holdem manager yesterday e and imported about 4000 hands of rush poker.
    I'd like to analyze the hands with leak buster but when I try to import stats I get the error message "no data to show!".
    Consider that I have registered leak buster but I don't have registered holdem manager.
    Could you help me?
    Make sure your filter is set correctly (Step 2 - all hands). Right now HM does not make a distinction between regular no-limit hands and rush hands. So as long as your data is in HM, Leak Buster will analyze it. Keep in mind, Leak Buster is not optimized for Rush Poker.

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