implicit strenght/weakness

1. ## implicit strenght/weakness

From the "Just getting started with NC" thread:

"If you do not select the setting to include implied strength and weakness the 1st of these 3 notes:-
[F]Raises Flop {impl. weakness-5,Middle Pair,Nut Straight,Two Pair}(18)
[F]Raises Flop { Middle Pair,Nut Straight,Two Pair}(18)
In my opinion this is a lot less useful. It shows us that his ratio of good to bad hands that got to SD was 2:1. We would often expect that his better hands get to SD.
The original which includes implied weakness shows us that the ratio of good hands : (bad hands or ones he later folds) is 1:3
It is your choice but I would suggest you spend a bit of time getting used to these implied hand strengths. In my opinion they are a very valuable feature of NC."

How do we get a 2:1 and 1:3 ratios of hands that got to showdown? Without implicit s/w data we only have 3 showdowns out of 18 hands and with implicit s/w we get 3 showdowns and 5 non SD hands where he folded.

Is this a mistake or am i missing something?

2. The part with implicits never uses the word showdown. That's the whole point of the implicits

3. Yes, i understand, but where does the 2:1 and 1:3 ratios come from?

4. Originally Posted by MassaTheChamp
Yes, i understand, but where does the 2:1 and 1:3 ratios come from?

Without Implicit:

God hand: Nut Straight,Two Pair
Bad hand: Middle pair (Not so good for raise flop - semi bluff)

With Implicit:
God hand: Nut Straight,Two Pair
Bad hand: Middle pair, Implicit weaknes*5

God hand/Bad hand = 2:6 = 1:3

5. Aha, great, i get it Thank You

6. Originally Posted by Olaf
Without Implicit:

God hand: Nut Straight,Two Pair
Bad hand: Middle pair (Not so good for raise flop - semi bluff)

With Implicit:
God hand: Nut Straight,Two Pair
Bad hand: Middle pair, Implicit weaknes*5

God hand/Bad hand = 2:6 = 1:3
Thank you Olaf. I will add this quote to the getting started post

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