1.11.07-Internal-4 .. vs 3bet stats are wrong

[Fiftyfifty]

Hi,

I don't know if this is posted or known already, but the following stats are still wrong:

Fold/Call/Raise_vs_3b.EP.total
Fold/Call/Raise_vs_3b.MP.total
Fold/Call/Raise_vs_3b.CO.total
Fold/Call/Raise_vs_3b.EP.ip
Fold/Call/Raise_vs_3b.MP.ip
Fold/Call/Raise_vs_3b.CO.ip

All Fold+Call+Raise in one Position should add up to 100%.. but they don't.

Are you aware of this? And is this getting fixed in the next release?

I reimported 5k Hands into a new database with Internal-4 to test if I need to reimport (had reimported with internal-2) but the stats are still wrong.

[fozzy71]

Thank you for the details. I will forward this to the tech team and my supervisors for further testing.

[BubbleBoy]

just making sure

Pre_vs/3B_vs_open_from.SB.total is equal to
Steal/BB Raise vs SB Steal

right?

[Patvs]

They should be the same.
But as stated in another thread, currently the results don't match.

Edit (they're not!), read: http://forums.holdemmanager.com/releases/93111-1-11-07-internal-4-vs-3bet-stats-wrong-2.html#post466011

[BubbleBoy]

"3+ bet/four bet range.EP"

is broken. I get insanely high values, 20-60% for every player. For one guy it was even >100% if I saw that correctly.

"four bet range.MP" through .SB seem to be working just fine

[BubbleBoy]

I take the last bit back, they seem all too low, but not sure.

[Hilips]

just making sure

Pre_vs/3B_vs_open_from.SB.total is equal to
Steal/BB Raise vs SB Steal

right?


They should be the same.
But as stated in another thread, currently the results don't match.

Read: http://forums.holdemmanager.com/releases/93061-pre-release-4-quesion-2.html

They should be the same? But they aren't the same.

When i asked you this same question you told me that:

- Pre_vs/3B_vs_open_from.SB.total: Includes every open raise from the SB even if there are limpers behind
- Steal/BB Raise vs SB Steal: Open raise without limper/steal

I don't understand why all this confusion, can't you ask the person who actully wrote the code to explain this?

Tks

[Patvs]

Find a Open from SB hand (with a limper in an early position) import it into a new database to see if it affects both:


Pre_vs/3B_vs_open_from.SB.total and
Steal/BB Raise vs SB Steal

[Hilips]

Find a Open from SB hand (with a limper in an early position) import it into a new database to see if it affects both:


Pre_vs/3B_vs_open_from.SB.total and
Steal/BB Raise vs SB Steal

I have done that when i asked you this same question when the first beta come out, thats why i don't understand your doubts know.


Tested again in a new database with only one hand.

I imported one hand where is one limper UTG, HERO on SB Raises, BB 3bets (limper fold, hero folds etc):

Number of hands: 1
Pre_vs/3B_vs_open_from.SB.total: 100%
Steal/BB Raise vs SB Steal: -



Imported another hand, this time folded to Hero on SB, Hero Raises, BB 3bets (hero folds).

Number of hands: 1
Pre_vs/3B_vs_open_from.SB.total: 100%
Steal/BB Raise vs SB Steal: 100%




Pre_vs/3B_vs_open_from.SB.total: counts every time HERO raises from SB with or without limpers and got 3bet from BB (or someone who posted de BB out of turn).
Steal/BB Raise vs SB Steal: only counts when is folded to HERO on SB and his steal got 3beted.



Probably doesn't look like but i was trying to help the other guy. lol

[m3ss]

turn cbet in 3 bet pot stat not working
also i cant find checkraise turn in 3 bet pot stat anywhere
when is the next version coming out?

[Patvs]

Can you post a turn cbet in 3 bet pot stat hand?
You imported them into 1.11.07 build 4?

[m3ss]

i use the same database as i did with 06g. but i have imported hands into 07internal 4 since. all turn CB 3bet pot stat show "-" instead of numbers.

[Patvs]

all turn CB 3bet pot stat show "-" instead of numbers.

Should be fixed in the final release of 1.11.07

[Hilips]

They should be the same.
But as stated in another thread, currently the results don't match.

Read: http://forums.holdemmanager.com/releases/93061-pre-release-4-quesion-2.html

So, the stats should be the same or not? Tks.

[Patvs]

I imported one hand where is one limper UTG, HERO on SB Raises, BB 3bets (limper fold, hero folds etc):

Number of hands: 1
Pre_vs/3B_vs_open_from.SB.total: 100%
Steal/BB Raise vs SB Steal: -



Imported another hand, this time folded to Hero on SB, Hero Raises, BB 3bets (hero folds).

Number of hands: 1
Pre_vs/3B_vs_open_from.SB.total: 100%
Steal/BB Raise vs SB Steal: 100%




Pre_vs/3B_vs_open_from.SB.total: counts every time HERO raises from SB with or without limpers and got 3bet from BB (or someone who posted de BB out of turn).
Steal/BB Raise vs SB Steal: only counts when is folded to HERO on SB and his steal got 3beted.







You just proved they're not the same.

[m3ss]

Should be fixed in the final release of 1.11.07

ok. when is it coming out?
does it work in any of the previous versions?

[Patvs]

If this is a new stat, it also doesn't work in previous versions.

I have no eta when the final version will be released. A programmer is working on all the new stats on weekdays.

[Daniel]

I'd assume that open raise should be a non limped pot, therefore the 2 stats should be the same. It is not a pre vs situation when there are limpers involved. Open PFR is also without raising limpers, so please change the pre_vs stats accordingly for clarity.

[hmZ968]

BB Raise vs SB Steal not working in the HUD. Four bet range and Five bet range is always equal. Pre vs / 3bet vs open from co 2x / bu 0x

[BubbleBoy]

when I go from the 11.07.internal-4 to the current windows7 fix, will I still be able to use the new stats?

[Patvs]

The version will be the same as 1.11.07 build 4, other than having the Windows 7 fix.

So it has the same new HUD stats issues/bugs that were in 1.11.07 build 4.

[BubbleBoy]

ok cool ty

[Daniel]

So now is the time to install 07 and reimport?

[Patvs]

Update to 1.11.07a.

Don't create a new database/reimport your hands until 1.12.01 is released.
1.11.07a is only released to fix the Windows 7 issue.