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supeyrio
06-27-2011, 03:57 AM
so i tried filtering raise preflop 3bet, however cold 4betting @BB doesnt appear under this filter. the hand in question is:

Grabbed by Holdem Manager (http://www.holdemmanager.net)
NL Holdem $1(BB) Replayer
SB ($100)
Hero ($109)
UTG ($100)
UTG+1 ($99.50)
UTG+2 ($131)
MP1 ($117)
CO ($249)
BTN ($101)

Dealt to Hero 4:spade: A:spade:

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to $2.50, SB raises to $8, Hero raises to $20, fold, SB raises to $40, fold

SB wins $42.50

so am i filtering it wrongly or is this a HEM problem?

Patvs
06-27-2011, 01:19 PM
Can you post or attach the handhistory in its original formatting.

supeyrio
06-27-2011, 02:17 PM
Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00 USD) - 2011/06/26
Table 'Balaton III' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: hero ($173.20 in chips)
Seat 2: Prometei999 ($101.50 in chips)
Seat 3: HEBECTA ($28.50 in chips)
Seat 4: Darvini ($64.50 in chips)
Seat 5: Mindthis ($106.40 in chips)
Seat 6: AceKing-KF ($101.50 in chips)
Seat 7: K_Jussi_K ($105.05 in chips)
Seat 8: cap. marb ($51.50 in chips)
Mindthis: posts small blind $0.50
AceKing-KF: posts big blind $1
hugo1006: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [4s As]
K_Jussi_K: folds
cap. marb: folds
hero: raises $2 to $3
Prometei999: calls $3
HEBECTA: raises $7.90 to $10.90
Darvini: folds
Mindthis: folds
AceKing-KF: folds
hero: folds
Prometei999: folds
Uncalled bet ($7.90) returned to HEBECTA
HEBECTA collected $10.50 from pot
HEBECTA: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $10.50 | Rake $0
Seat 1: Hero folded before Flop
Seat 2: Prometei999 folded before Flop
Seat 3: HEBECTA collected ($10.50)
Seat 4: Darvini (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Mindthis (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: AceKing-KF (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: K_Jussi_K folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: cap. marb folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Patvs
06-27-2011, 02:25 PM
Are you sure that's the original formatting?
Played on which site?

I can't import the hand, without hand #number and TIME in the handhistory file.

supeyrio
06-28-2011, 06:44 AM
PokerStars Game #63825471547: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00 USD) - 2011/06/26 17:55:41 ET
Table 'Balaton III' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: hero ($173.20 in chips)
Seat 2: Prometei999 ($101.50 in chips)
Seat 3: HEBECTA ($28.50 in chips)
Seat 4: Darvini ($64.50 in chips)
Seat 5: Mindthis ($106.40 in chips)
Seat 6: AceKing-KF ($101.50 in chips)
Seat 7: K_Jussi_K ($105.05 in chips)
Seat 8: cap. marb ($51.50 in chips)
Mindthis: posts small blind $0.50
AceKing-KF: posts big blind $1
hugo1006: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hero [4s As]
K_Jussi_K: folds
cap. marb: folds
hero: raises $2 to $3
Prometei999: calls $3
HEBECTA: raises $7.90 to $10.90
Darvini: folds
Mindthis: folds
AceKing-KF: folds
hero: folds
Prometei999: folds
Uncalled bet ($7.90) returned to HEBECTA
HEBECTA collected $10.50 from pot
HEBECTA: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $10.50 | Rake $0
Seat 1: hero folded before Flop
Seat 2: Prometei999 folded before Flop
Seat 3: HEBECTA collected ($10.50)
Seat 4: Darvini (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Mindthis (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: AceKing-KF (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: K_Jussi_K folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: cap. marb folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Patvs
06-28-2011, 08:49 PM
This hand is hero raises.
Prometei999 calls.
HEBECTA 3bets.
Hero and Prometei999 fold.



There is no 4bet.

It's not the hand you used in your example in your opening post.

Can you post the handhistory of that hand.

supeyrio
06-29-2011, 04:18 AM
sorry
PokerStars Game #63824638027: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00 USD) - 2011/06/26 17:34:40 ET
Table 'Oskar IV' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: I The King I ($249.55 in chips)
Seat 2: Joe_Banks ($101.10 in chips)
Seat 3: ivan100886 ($100 in chips)
Seat 4: Hero ($109.25 in chips)
Seat 5: Coox ($100 in chips)
Seat 6: koless2 ($99.50 in chips)
Seat 7: Mindthis ($131.80 in chips)
Seat 8: LaPoCaFlame ($117.50 in chips)
ivan100886: posts small blind $0.50
Hero: posts big blind $1
vlsd: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [4s As]
Coox: folds
koless2: folds
Mindthis: folds
LaPoCaFlame: folds
I The King I: folds
Joe_Banks: raises $1.50 to $2.50
ivan100886: raises $5.50 to $8
Hero: raises $12 to $20
Joe_Banks: folds
ivan100886: raises $20 to $40
Hero: folds
Uncalled bet ($20) returned to ivan100886
ivan100886 collected $42.50 from pot
ivan100886: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $42.50 | Rake $0
Seat 1: I The King I folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Joe_Banks (button) folded before Flop
Seat 3: ivan100886 (small blind) collected ($42.50)
Seat 4: Hero (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Coox folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: koless2 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Mindthis folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: LaPoCaFlame folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Patvs
06-29-2011, 08:25 PM
I selected ivan100886 as the hero, as a test. And his 5bet does show up as "Raised Preflop 4Bet = True"


Your 4bet doesn't show up with Raised Preflop 3bet = True
However it does show up with Raised Preflop 3bet = False



Is it possible our TRUE and FALSE filters are reversed?
Can you check if other 4bet hands show up if you filter for = False?

supeyrio
06-30-2011, 09:20 AM
i would believe that HEM doesnt identify cold 4bet as raising a 3bet = true.
other 4bet hands do show up, however other cold 4bet hands similar to this doesnt appear. this needs a fix

Patvs
07-01-2011, 10:38 PM
I'll create a bug report for this and sent it to a programmer to fix.