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Hunter
04-06-2009, 09:34 AM
I only play HU cash.
I would like to determine the % of time 4bets are 5bet (which is usually a shove) preflop.

I assume I would filter out hands where BB 5bet, and divide that by filtered out hands where I 4bet.

Problem is I can't figure out how to filter for 4bets or 5bets. Anyone know how to do this, or perhaps an alternative way of getting at this stat?

Al1
04-06-2009, 10:46 AM
4bet and "raise 4bet" = 5bet are available in the Manager if you click the + on the report tab.

Hunter
04-06-2009, 11:11 AM
4bet and "raise 4bet" = 5bet are available in the Manager if you click the + on the report tab.

maybe i misunderstand, but wouldn't that just tell you the % of time you 4bet and 5bet?

I want to know the % of time given I 4bet, i face a 5bet.

Al1
04-06-2009, 12:15 PM
OK,

I see, not sure it's possible because the filter Facing a 5bet doesn't exist.

Escalated to morny (Support), he will answer asap.

Hunter
04-06-2009, 02:44 PM
Can you even filter hands where you 4 bet?

morny
04-06-2009, 03:58 PM
Faced a 5bet filter isnt there (rarely happens at least at the games i play)

Raised Preflop 3bet = True means 4bet and is in the more filters tab

Hunter
04-06-2009, 05:59 PM
Faced a 5bet filter isnt there (rarely happens at least at the games i play)

it is quite common playing HU. I wanted to determine the % of time my 4bets are getting shoved over. Is this something that could be done in reports? I haven't really looked at them before.

morny
04-07-2009, 10:45 AM
Dont think you can filter that, you can filter where 4bet=true and all in preflop=true but that wont show the ones where they shove and you fold.

Hunter
04-07-2009, 11:19 AM
yeah, there's an adage in HU play that the first 4bet is always a bluff. In addition I feel my 4bets are being shoved over a lot, which could easily be a symptom of 4betting too much, but I wanted to try and put some numbers with it. I know Roy or someone has a HU article in the works. Maybe this could be included in there.