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sariboxer
08-05-2008, 04:04 PM
Hi,

What is the difference between "raise flop continuation bet" and "raise flop continuation bet raised pot" ???

When there is a c bet it is already a raised pot, isn't it?

PatInTheHat
08-05-2008, 09:17 PM
Also curious

morny
08-05-2008, 10:12 PM
Im not 100% sure might be the same or the 1st one might include 3bet pots, ill ask Roy

Rvg72
08-06-2008, 01:24 AM
Hi,

What is the difference between "raise flop continuation bet" and "raise flop continuation bet raised pot" ???

When there is a c bet it is already a raised pot, isn't it?

Raised flop CBet is when you called the PFR.

Raised Flop CBet Raised Pot is when you were the original PFR and were then 3bet preflop. This number now shows how often your raise the 3bettors CBet.

Roy

sariboxer
08-06-2008, 03:27 AM
something is still not clear to me...

because there are 3 different stats as follows:

1. raise flop continuation bet
2. raise flop continuation bet raised pot
3. raise flop continuation bet 3 bet pot

If I understood well your answer "raise flop continuation bet raised pot" is in a 3 bet pot, but then what is the difference between the 2. and the 3.?

Same thing with

- donk bet flop
- donk bet flop raised pot
- donk bet flop 3 bet pot

If I may have a suggestion a detailed explanation regarding all the available stats would be useful even for old PT users....

PatInTheHat
08-06-2008, 04:20 AM
Other random questions:

Flop Agg Pct vs Flop bet?

Arn't these two basically cbet stats?
bet flop raised pot
bet flop 3bet pot

another example like OP:
fold to flop bet
fold to flop bet raised pot
fold to flop bet 3bet pot

morny
08-06-2008, 10:55 AM
Other random questions:

Flop Agg Pct vs Flop bet?

Arn't these two basically cbet stats?
bet flop raised pot
bet flop 3bet pot

another example like OP:
fold to flop bet
fold to flop bet raised pot
fold to flop bet 3bet pot

Flop Agg % = The % of time villain makes an aggressive action i.e Bet,Raise,Check/Raise etc

Ill let Roy explain the difference between raised pot and 3bet pot which will answer all the remaining questions. btw i will be working on a golassary and explanation of all these stats soon for the FAQ

Flop Bet = how often he bets the flop

Rvg72
08-06-2008, 12:36 PM
something is still not clear to me...

because there are 3 different stats as follows:

1. raise flop continuation bet
2. raise flop continuation bet raised pot
3. raise flop continuation bet 3 bet pot

If I understood well your answer "raise flop continuation bet raised pot" is in a 3 bet pot, but then what is the difference between the 2. and the 3.?

Same thing with

- donk bet flop
- donk bet flop raised pot
- donk bet flop 3 bet pot

If I may have a suggestion a detailed explanation regarding all the available stats would be useful even for old PT users....

Raised Pot = 3 bet pot where you were 3 bet preflop
3 Bet Pot = 3 bet pot where you were the preflop 3 bettor

Roy

rockit50007
08-30-2008, 03:12 PM
How about he difference between:

'fold to bet flop, 3bet pot' and
'fold to C-bet flop ,3betpot'.

They seem like the same thing?

Does 'fold to C-bet flop ,3betpot'. even make sense..if the 3better ,C-bets ,he cannot fold to a C-bet?

morny
08-30-2008, 03:15 PM
The Above were actually wrong and have since been corrected in the FAQ where we now have a full list and explanation of all the stats:

http://208.109.95.123/forum/showthread.php?t=1551

We didnt actually notice this until we started updating the FAQ and noticed inconsistencies and checked it out.

btw cbet is where you were PFR and then bet, bet is just a bet regardless of whether you raised preflop or not

rockit50007
08-30-2008, 05:08 PM
i see now,

thanks
dan

:)