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sreticentv
06-09-2011, 10:16 PM
This thread is now closed: Please post in the official NoteCaddy sub forum http://forums.holdemmanager.com/notecaddy/

I am happy to work with the HEM team in both the development of HM2 as well as the addition of NoteCaddy to the stable of high quality HM-Apps.

NoteCaddy is essentially a note management add on. Using it, you can automatically add notes for players. Additionally, you can automatically color code players in PokerStars and Full Tilt Poker. HM2 allows you to quickly understand your notes with new features such as color coded NC notes, spark graphs, notes in popups, and notes as stats.

Please have a look at some of the videos that will help explain some of the many NoteCaddy features:

Intro to NoteCaddy hm-app
http://www.assaultware.com/videos/intro_hem2.wmv

Advanced Tutorials
http://www.assaultware.com/videos/filters.wmv
http://www.assaultware.com/videos/test-environment.wmv
http://www.assaultware.com/videos/hud-options.wmv
http://www.assaultware.com/videos/player-types.wmv
http://www.assaultware.com/videos/flop-actions.wmv
http://www.assaultware.com/videos/flop-previous-actions.wmv
http://www.assaultware.com/videos/flop-range.wmv
http://www.assaultware.com/videos/flop-general.wmv
http://www.assaultware.com/videos/preflop-actions.wmv
http://www.assaultware.com/videos/preflop-previous-actions.wmv
http://www.assaultware.com/videos/holdem-cards.wmv
http://www.assaultware.com/videos/preflop-general.wmv
http://www.assaultware.com/videos/variables.wmv
http://www.assaultware.com/videos/general-tab.wmv
http://www.assaultware.com/videos/note-output-editor.wmv
http://www.assaultware.com/videos/player-note-history.wmv
http://www.assaultware.com/videos/settings.wmv
http://www.assaultware.com/videos/creating-updating-color-definitions.wmv

Excellent document explaining implicit strength/weaknesses (contributed by user TJD)
http://www.assaultware.com/videos/implicits.docx


Please feel free to ask any questions in this thread and I will do my best to answer them.

sreticentv
06-09-2011, 10:17 PM
Here is another example

http://i55.tinypic.com/zss87o.jpg

3rd one down says implied weakness when he has QQ, with 2 peaks , one says strong the other says weak

I know you are the expert but it would be very handy if we had this explained to the layman, as i have asked a few of my guys and looked at lost of stats that to us, just dont make sense

Plus an explanation of all the numbers

the intro (new) video should explain this


I'm making some custom popups and I noticed in some of the default popups there are notecaddy notes taken for these popups at the bottom of the popup. How do I get these notes into my custom popups?

hud options->notecaddy popups. There is more explanation in the intro video as well

johncc
06-10-2011, 06:01 AM
Clicking notecaddy nothing happens, so i assume thats why note caddy report doesnt pop up either when live

johncc
06-10-2011, 08:03 AM
So in the video you also show a hand and the notecaddy says AH20 (Ace high 2 overs) implied strength because he played the hand strong, i.e. fired 2 barrels.

My question is, as he didnt get to showdown, how does NC know his hand?

Also in a different note it says

cbets oop etc and misses cbet oop, underneath it says

cbets ace high
cbets dry flop

question is, is this IP or OOP

sreticentv
06-10-2011, 08:12 AM
So in the video you also show a hand and the notecaddy says AH20 (Ace high 2 overs) implied strength because he played the hand strong, i.e. fired 2 barrels.

My question is, as he didnt get to showdown, how does NC know his hand?

Also in a different note it says

cbets oop etc and misses cbet oop, underneath it says

cbets ace high
cbets dry flop

question is, is this IP or OOP

I clearly explain in the video that the comma indicates that it was separate instances. If you look at the replayer you'll see two hands in there. I also explain how the #2 like (2/2) means that there were TWO instances.

Here is another example of commas:

"I like dogs, cats, and giraffes." That doesn't mean I like some kind of dog-cat-giraffe hybrid but rather I like all three.

implied strength means they continued showing aggression and won the hand without showdown

implied weakness means they eventually folded

johncc
06-10-2011, 09:12 AM
Now just waiting for an answer to my other questions

sreticentv
06-10-2011, 09:14 AM
Now just waiting for an answer to my other questions

please quote yourself as I don't see any more

johncc
06-10-2011, 09:20 AM
Well perhaps i am just thick, as i have read the implicits doc and it makes my head wobble, unless its to early in the morning for me, I have also watched every video, why do i have a problem understanding it?

You write the following;

The last 3 all got to SD and we see that he makes these raises with middle pair as well as 2 good hands. However, the one I want to discuss is the "impl. weakness -5". This tells us the following:-
• He raised the CB
• The raise did not instantly win
• The hand did not get to SD
• This player FOLDED before SD

OK, did he have a monster hand these 5 times?

So if he had a monster why did he not see the showdown or am i missing the point?

Here is another note for a different player:-

[F]Raises Flop {impl. strength-3,Top Pair/High Kicker}(6)

We see that he raised with TP once and a couple of times he won instantly

(Even more confused as it states he didnt win instantly

(6-1-3) but let's look at impl. strength -3

This tells us that
• He raised the CB
• The raise did not instantly win
• The hand did not get to SD
• This player WON before SD

Ok, did he have a weak hand these 3 times?

Are you saying here he won with a weak hand because the villain folded? or that we dont know

Well as this is implied strength and the one above is implied weakness why are the meanings EXACTLY the same??

Your documents show a single number (6) for example, my example shows 2/7

Also in my example QQ/Top Pair there is no number for implied weakness, any reason for this ?

Maybe its me, but i doubt as other people have asked if i understand it, i clearly dont, Love the product but woud love it better if i knew what was what

sreticentv
06-10-2011, 09:24 AM
Well perhaps i am just thick, as i have read the implicits doc and it makes my head wobble, unless its to early in the morning for me, I have also watched every video, why do i have a problem understanding it?

You write the following;

The last 3 all got to SD and we see that he makes these raises with middle pair as well as 2 good hands. However, the one I want to discuss is the "impl. weakness -5". This tells us the following:-
• He raised the CB
• The raise did not instantly win
• The hand did not get to SD
• This player FOLDED before SD

OK, did he have a monster hand these 5 times?

So if he had a monster why did he not see the showdown or am i missing the point?

Here is another note for a different player:-

[F]Raises Flop {impl. strength-3,Top Pair/High Kicker}(6)

We see that he raised with TP once and a couple of times he won instantly

(Even more confused as it states he didnt win instantly

(6-1-3) but let's look at impl. strength -3

This tells us that
• He raised the CB
• The raise did not instantly win
• The hand did not get to SD
• This player WON before SD

Ok, did he have a weak hand these 3 times?

Are you saying here he won with a weak hand because the villain folded? or that we dont know

Well as this is implied strength and the one above is implied weakness why are the meanings EXACTLY the same??

Your documents show a single number (6) for example, my example shows 2/7

Also in my example QQ/Top Pair there is no number for implied weakness, any reason for this ?

Maybe its me, but i doubt as other people have asked if i understand it, i clearly dont, Love the product but woud love it better if i knew what was what

those are hypothetical questions



So if he had a monster why did he not see the showdown or am i missing the point?


he didn't have a monster if he folded



Are you saying here he won with a weak hand because the villain folded? or that we dont know


he probably didn't have a weak hand if he kept bet/raising

The purpose of the document is to explain how you might use the info gained.

If someone has the note "missing cbet oop {implicit weakness-5}" then you should be calling them in position pre flop frequently and when they check the flop, steal the pot from them with a bet



Your documents show a single number (6) for example, my example shows 2/7


One number means it happened x times. Two number (x/y) means it happened x times but could have happened y times.



Also in my example QQ/Top Pair there is no number for implied weakness, any reason for this ?


no number means it happened once just like x = 1x


Just remember that:

implicit strength = continued aggression and won without showdown
implicit weakness = folded before showdown

nakgeela
06-10-2011, 09:53 AM
Same thing for me with 2.0.0.4530.

sreticentv
06-10-2011, 10:20 AM
Same thing for me with 2.0.0.4530.

as of this build, NoteCaddy is turned off by default. You need to go to hud options and turn it on and then restart. The purpose of this is to isolate performance issues as we proceed through alpha testing

nakgeela
06-10-2011, 10:43 AM
Certainly my main performance and stability issues occur when I am importing hands and have NC processing at the same time so hopefully this will help with your investigations. Do let me know if there is anything specific in this area I can help test.

johncc
06-10-2011, 10:57 AM
Ok so u say hypothetical hands and what he did, on both occasions he made the same choices with implied strength and implied weakness.

This tells us that
• He raised the CB
• The raise did not instantly win
• The hand did not get to SD
• This player WON before SD

so with strength and weakness is this correct? As that is what you said he faced and did in those "hypothetical questions"

sreticentv
06-10-2011, 11:03 AM
scenario 1:

• He raised the CB
• The raise did not instantly win
• The hand did not get to SD
• This player FOLDED before show down

=> implied weakness

scenario 2:

• He raised the CB
• The raise did not instantly win
• The hand did not get to SD
• This player WON before SD (because the other guy folded)

=> implied strength.

I bolded the parts that aren't the same

sreticentv
06-10-2011, 11:08 AM
Certainly my main performance and stability issues occur when I am importing hands and have NC processing at the same time so hopefully this will help with your investigations. Do let me know if there is anything specific in this area I can help test.

you probably answered this before so sorry to make you repeat but:

how much memory does your computer have?
How many core processor?
Did you increase the amount of threads notecaddy uses or did you leave the default of one?
How many hands in your database?

johncc
06-10-2011, 11:09 AM
OK so i turned notecaddy back on as the build didnt mention is was turned off, still in HM Apps, when i click NC nothing happens


In HUD options NC Popups, PF F T and R have vanished

HELP

sreticentv
06-10-2011, 11:31 AM
when you turned it on, did you get the little message saying you have to restart? If so, did you restart?

johncc
06-10-2011, 11:36 AM
I'm an idiot for not even reading correctly, woops

4gb, changed nothing , 64bit OS Dual Core

No idea how i can see the amount of hands in the DB

BUT db1 is 201mb

2 is 2.7GB

3 is 1.5gb this is the one i am using

don't know if deleting 2 of them would make a difference, cant find an option to do this though.

johncc
06-10-2011, 11:37 AM
when you turned it on, did you get the little message saying you have to restart? If so, did you restart?


Yes, no idea what i have to re start though or how to do it, it just said re start note caddy

sreticentv
06-10-2011, 11:43 AM
Yes, no idea what i have to re start though or how to do it, it just said re start note caddy

I changed the text to make it hopefully unambiguous:

You will have to close Hold'em Manager and the re-open it for this change to take effect

better?

johncc
06-10-2011, 11:51 AM
OK will do that, on another note on lappy as its now downloading the newbuild caddy report opens up for some reason, then closes

nakgeela
06-10-2011, 04:29 PM
you probably answered this before so sorry to make you repeat but:

how much memory does your computer have?
How many core processor?
Did you increase the amount of threads notecaddy uses or did you leave the default of one?
How many hands in your database?

3GB Ram, Pentium Dual 2.4Ghz. I leave it at one thread. If I am not importing hands (and not running the HUD) then I can increase NC to two threads and it works fine, at least for batchs of say 50,000 hands. Processing a full database overnight seems to be a problem - I left one running last night - this started okay - but in the morning HEM had stopped responding.

The database I am currently using has 3.3 million hands (my full database is 16m but I have restricted it for alpha testing).

I'll try to keep some better notes on exact situations involving NC where I start to see performance issues.

Keep up the good work. I've been a user (and fan) of NC for some time and I'm still trying to get used to the differences in the HUD view of the notes with this new version but it looks great.

madlion
06-11-2011, 08:43 AM
Don't know if this has been asked before, Is NoteCaddy going to be a HM2 app that you can purchase? And if so is the HM2 version going to be free for existing NoteCaddy users/purchasers.

sreticentv
06-11-2011, 03:46 PM
Don't know if this has been asked before, Is NoteCaddy going to be a HM2 app that you can purchase?

yes



And if so is the HM2 version going to be free for existing NoteCaddy users/purchasers.

to be determined but at the very least there would be a very big discount for existing nc users

udbrky
06-13-2011, 03:00 PM
implied is when there is no showdown.

They showed strength without showing cards, so you have to imply what they had.

If the hand goes to showdown, then it would be explicit strength/weakness.

nakgeela
06-13-2011, 03:26 PM
I am experiencing a problem presently with processing hands. The process runs happily for around 160k hands (of a 3.3m hand database) and then the HM2 application stops responding. I have to shut-down the app manually. When I run HM2 again NC will start processing but again stop at the same point.
I am thinking that this might be a data issue but this was a newly created database using data that previously got processed ok. I plan to wait until another build is available before creating a new database and re-importing the hands. Will report back if things change.

udbrky
06-13-2011, 03:31 PM
When it locks up, please post a screenshot of your task manager, what is the hm ram/cpu usage, what is the performance tab showing overall?

Please post a log too before you restart.

johncc
06-13-2011, 03:48 PM
Ok try this one

Question

The following is a scenario of a players actions in a hand

• He raised the CB
• The raise did not instantly win
• The hand did not get to SD
• This player FOLDED before SD

Or the player won before the showdown

so in taking any of these actions, did the villain always raise a cbet?

johncc
06-13-2011, 03:54 PM
The reason i am at pains to find out is that i use Rcbet stat in my HUD and trust me, it is very very useful

udbrky
06-13-2011, 04:56 PM
There are other ways to show aggression without raising a cbet:

call a cbet, then bet vs missed cbet on a following street

donkbet

johncc
06-14-2011, 03:29 AM
OK I got it now

agx631x
06-15-2011, 06:17 AM
the notes never appear in my HUD? is there something im missing.

Ive ticked start note caddy in the hud options and ive processed the database. however people who i have 3k hands on dont appear to have any notes in the HUD. loads of names appear in the player note history section, however in the box underneath where it has description and notes its empty.

udbrky
06-16-2011, 12:45 AM
Is this when it wants to write new notes all the time when you restart?

agx631x
06-16-2011, 06:12 AM
sorry i dont understand what you mean by that.

sreticentv
06-16-2011, 02:22 PM
the notes never appear in my HUD? is there something im missing.

Ive ticked start note caddy in the hud options and ive processed the database. however people who i have 3k hands on dont appear to have any notes in the HUD. loads of names appear in the player note history section, however in the box underneath where it has description and notes its empty.

we need to wait for a new release before we worry about that too much as there are a ton of fixes that are not in your version yet...

what you could do though is go into file->export notes to file in the caddy tab and see if your regs show up in the file

thank you for helping to test notecaddy :)

agx631x
06-16-2011, 04:47 PM
is there a timeframe for the updates?

also ive been thinking - notecaddy seems quite good so much so in fact that are you not worried that there will be no edge over anybody else anymore because we have stats and notes automatically done for us? just wondered your thoughts on this.

nakgeela
06-16-2011, 06:03 PM
Is this when it wants to write new notes all the time when you restart?

Yes that is exactly what is happening. As noted above I have tried re-installing/new database etc. and it still happens. Let me know if there are any specific scenarios you would like me to try.

udbrky
06-16-2011, 10:19 PM
sreti will know better - he's the note caddy guy. I'm still learning a lot of the nuances.

johncc
06-17-2011, 02:33 AM
what you could do though is go into file->export notes to file in the caddy tab and see if your regs show up in the file


I think he means Open Note caddy App then

File/synchronize/export

shahrad
06-23-2011, 02:39 AM
the notes never appear in my HUD? is there something im missing.

Ive ticked start note caddy in the hud options and ive processed the database. however people who i have 3k hands on dont appear to have any notes in the HUD. loads of names appear in the player note history section, however in the box underneath where it has description and notes its empty.

Same issue.

Botmac
06-23-2011, 09:18 PM
Opened up session tab to review some hands, clicked on replayer, expand opened caddy replayer and this is what showed up. I have not used the notecaddy replayed alot, but I never noticed this before. Ver. 2.0.0.4602. I just played around a bit and it seems to be random, ex. I picked a player that had 4 hands c-bets OOP in the replayer, if I click the little boxes to view the hands, the doubles show up, if I go back to the hand later, the doubles are gone, click the box again, the doubles are back.

shahrad
06-23-2011, 10:18 PM
Opened up session tab to review some hands, clicked on replayer, expand opened caddy replayer and this is what showed up. I have not used the notecaddy replayed alot, but I never noticed this before. Ver. 2.0.0.4602. I just played around a bit and it seems to be random, ex. I picked a player that had 4 hands c-bets OOP in the replayer, if I click the little boxes to view the hands, the doubles show up, if I go back to the hand later, the doubles are gone, click the box again, the doubles are back.
I have this issue with the HEM Replayer. It doesn't happen when I double click a hand from the list, but it happens when I use 'expand'.
Edit: It happens randomely also by double clicking.

udbrky
06-25-2011, 08:03 PM
Opened up session tab to review some hands, clicked on replayer, expand opened caddy replayer and this is what showed up. I have not used the notecaddy replayed alot, but I never noticed this before. Ver. 2.0.0.4602. I just played around a bit and it seems to be random, ex. I picked a player that had 4 hands c-bets OOP in the replayer, if I click the little boxes to view the hands, the doubles show up, if I go back to the hand later, the doubles are gone, click the box again, the doubles are back.

This happens continuously? I had one instance of this yesterday, but did not see it after that.

Botmac
06-25-2011, 10:30 PM
Played around with it today, did not have any issues, will keep you updated if it reappears.

agx631x
06-26-2011, 08:17 AM
here is screen shots of whats happening with note caddy, this is a new database that ive just made as HM2 as a whole keeps going wrong, so the solution is not make a new database,lol.

udbrky
06-26-2011, 03:24 PM
Look me up on skype to do a teamviewer session

Botmac
07-01-2011, 10:01 AM
I have the stand alone ver of notecaddy and I am setting up some of the same definitions in HEM2. I have a definition called call open shove, I have set up the definitions the same in both notcaddy's, but I can't get any hands to show up in HEM2 when I do a seek. I've tried different aliases on HEM2 with seek, still can't get any hands to show up. Suggestions? Thanks
Ran the seek fuction on a bunch of definitions in HEM2, nothing is showing up, and I know I have notes for those definitions.

johncc
07-01-2011, 03:12 PM
Does caddy work with MTT as i dont appear to have any notes in MTT's at all

They do appear in Hand Viwer, but not in HUD pop up via notecaddy stats or anywhere else

rowhousepd
07-06-2011, 04:37 AM
Any idea why the Notecaddy thread (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/167/commercial-software/notecaddy-programmable-automatic-notes-hem-pt3-automatic-color-coding-stars-ftp-797510/) on 2+2 is now closed?

sreticentv
07-06-2011, 07:18 AM
I have the stand alone ver of notecaddy and I am setting up some of the same definitions in HEM2. I have a definition called call open shove, I have set up the definitions the same in both notcaddy's, but I can't get any hands to show up in HEM2 when I do a seek. I've tried different aliases on HEM2 with seek, still can't get any hands to show up. Suggestions? Thanks
Ran the seek fuction on a bunch of definitions in HEM2, nothing is showing up, and I know I have notes for those definitions.

Did you recreate the definitions or did you import them? If you post 1-2 defs here (or email them to support@notecaddy.com) I will take a look


Does caddy work with MTT as i dont appear to have any notes in MTT's at all


They are supposed to take notes for MTTs - I just tried one and it worked for me...



They do appear in Hand Viwer, but not in HUD pop up via notecaddy stats or anywhere else

Do they appear if you go into the notecaddy tab and click file->export notes to text file?


Any idea why the Notecaddy thread (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/167/commercial-software/notecaddy-programmable-automatic-notes-hem-pt3-automatic-color-coding-stars-ftp-797510/) on 2+2 is now closed?

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rowhousepd
07-06-2011, 07:09 PM
I chose option 3) which is to not participate on 2+2 anymore

Wow. No kidding. Holy sh*t. That's too bad bc it was a useful thread. Oh well.

rowhousepd
07-06-2011, 07:13 PM
Any idea why NC isn't taking notes in HM2? I opted in the HUD options to have NC take notes, I went to the HM Apps section and activated the Deep Stack definition package. The database is selected properly. I hit create notes for unprocessed hands ... but nothing is being noted in my 100K+ db. I didn't change anything else. It's set up w/ the default setting and a ton of defs ready & active. Hmmm.

I'm pretty familiar w/ NC as I have it as a stand alone product and it works great on it's own w/ the old HEM, so I don't think I'm missing anything idiotic. Could the fact that there are two versions be causing the problem?

udbrky
07-06-2011, 07:18 PM
Open up reports and the replayer - are note icons shown?

rowhousepd
07-06-2011, 07:23 PM
Open up reports and the replayer - are note icons shown?

Nope, and I'm sure it didn't do take any to begin w/ bc when I had it write notes the first time it didn't take anytime to process what should be a significant # of hands. It's as though it's not seeing anything in my db -- and I don't see how I could change db's even if I want to w/out doing it through HM2. (But perhaps that's how it's suppose to work.)

Stumped. Maybe I do need to idiot check something else.... :(

udbrky
07-06-2011, 07:26 PM
Yeah, we can do a teamviewer

rowhousepd
07-06-2011, 07:31 PM
Would love to. I need to set it up first as I've never used Teamviewer ... and would also have to be in a few hours. (I'm off to see Super 8 in a few.) :)

sreticentv
07-06-2011, 09:06 PM
oops I missed one of your posts...

When you clicked to start, did it show that it was processing hands in the 'creating notes' tab?

If you do file->export notes to text file does anything show up?

If you do file->reset notes and then create notes from the start page, what happens?

Botmac
07-06-2011, 09:52 PM
1)Yes notes are being created
2) Yes , I can see the notes being exported
3) Don't really want to reset again, but something weird is going on.
Today ran create notes for hands that I imported, took 4 hours. I just finished a session and went back to try seek again on my open shove definition, caddy has started to create notes for all the hands imported earlier today. Really weird because when I was playing my session I had caddy running and it was taking notes, now after I closed HEM2 I reopened it after I saw your reply to this post and it starts creating notes again. I can pull up some hands now with seek, but the cash hands are still not working properly for open shove. I sent an email with a hands from a cash session earlier. Late now, will get back to you tomorrow.

udbrky
07-06-2011, 10:05 PM
Here is what he said in response to your openshove issue botmac:

http://forums.holdemmanager.com/apha-testing-feedback/86341-official-notecaddy-hm-app-thread-7.html#post460361

I don't think any of the posts on this page are in reference to your issue, so don't go resetting notes if they're working for the most part.

sreticentv
07-06-2011, 10:08 PM
Yeah i saw your email but am away from the work computer so i cant do much...

No need to reset notes if theyre being exported. I keep making big changes to prevent nc from impacting hem performance and its a tough balance. I am trying to finish up this other big change and then i'll test thoroughly on several computers.

Edit: thanks for the feedback guys, hm2 is gonna be awesome and thanks to them giving me free reign in the hud, i know the new notecaddy will be too :)

Botmac
07-07-2011, 09:59 PM
Something strange going on. Open notecaddy, click on open shove definition, seek and notecaddy starts creating notes for hands that already have notes, I'm talking about 400K hands. I ran notecaddy when I imported the hands 2 days ago, and it finished making all the notes, opened notecaddy this morning, and it started making notes again, and finished.Now I click on my open shove definition and it starts making notes again for the same 400k hands. This is the third time it has started making notes for the same hands. Help :)

rowhousepd
07-07-2011, 10:14 PM
sreticentv: Not sure if your post was meant for me or Botmac, but here's my response.


When you clicked to start, did it show that it was processing hands in the 'creating notes' tab?
Yes. But total processes and cached players = 0.


If you do file->export notes to text file does anything show up?

No. There are no players there.


If you do file->reset notes and then create notes from the start page, what happens?

Presto! That's all it took. Don't know why but reseting & recreating did the trick. Thanks!

rowhousepd
07-07-2011, 10:17 PM
How do I back to the first screen from when I activated NC for originally that describes all the definitions? I could use a little explanation on what some of these do & why they might be valuable, but I can't seem to bring up that info again.

shahrad
07-08-2011, 09:45 AM
How reliable is caddy spark regarding PLO? There are lots of mistakes that NC makes when evaluating PLO Hands and hand strengths.

rowhousepd
07-08-2011, 06:32 PM
How do I back to the first screen from when I activated NC for originally that describes all the definitions? I could use a little explanation on what some of these do & why they might be valuable, but I can't seem to bring up that info again.

Knock knock. Hello?

sreticentv
07-08-2011, 08:16 PM
How reliable is caddy spark regarding PLO? There are lots of mistakes that NC makes when evaluating PLO Hands and hand strengths.

very reliable


Knock knock. Hello?

way too soon for a knock knock. There's no wizard in the hm-app notecaddy. The descriptions will be on the website

rowhousepd
07-09-2011, 12:15 AM
way too soon for a knock knock.

Ha! ;) You're right.


There's no wizard in the hm-app notecaddy. The descriptions will be on the website


You mean on the HM site or NC's? I also wanted to install another one of the definition groups. I only did one, but would like to add an additional one. Is there a way to go back and reinstall more than the one I already have?

shahrad
07-09-2011, 12:56 AM
very reliable


Really need more info than this. On paired boards a hand like xx33 on AAx flop is considered Top Pair Low Kicker, a Non Nut Straight is always a Nut Straight, as I did also mention in assault forum, it is considering a straight on the river often as Open Ended Straight Draw, it doesn't make any difference between a Non Nut Open Ender, a Nut Open Ender, a Non Nut 13 Wrap, a Nut 17 Wrap etc...
Regarding the points mentioned above, how does it come that you think caddy sparks is still reliable for PLO?

rowhousepd
07-09-2011, 02:42 AM
You mean on the HM site or NC's? I also wanted to install another one of the definition groups. I only did one, but would like to add an additional one. Is there a way to go back and reinstall more than the one I already have?

Just to clarify, I'm just wondering if it's possible to download all the definitions that I could have when I first started up the program. Are they available somewhere else?

sreticentv
07-09-2011, 09:16 AM
Really need more info than this. On paired boards a hand like xx33 on AAx flop is considered Top Pair Low Kicker, a Non Nut Straight is always a Nut Straight, as I did also mention in assault forum, it is considering a straight on the river often as Open Ended Straight Draw, it doesn't make any difference between a Non Nut Open Ender, a Nut Open Ender, a Non Nut 13 Wrap, a Nut 17 Wrap etc...
Regarding the points mentioned above, how does it come that you think caddy sparks is still reliable for PLO?

because spark points are based on an equity calculator versus 10k random hands - it is a much simpler process


Just to clarify, I'm just wondering if it's possible to download all the definitions that I could have when I first started up the program. Are they available somewhere else?

you can import them from your standalone notecaddy for now by doing tools->import definitions

They will be made available at assaultware.com shortly. NC HM-APP doesn't have a wizard so you'll have to wait for the website to come online

Botmac
07-09-2011, 03:25 PM
Open shove definitions for cash hands are showing up when I do a seek as an open shove when a player is disconnected and times out. Here are a few examples.

rowhousepd
07-09-2011, 07:52 PM
you can import them from your standalone notecaddy for now by doing tools->import definitions

You mean all the ones that installed when I first ran HM2 are the same as the default def that came w/ the stand alone NC? It looked like there were a lot more (and several different series) in the HM2 alpha version. Am I wrong?

sreticentv
07-09-2011, 07:57 PM
Open shove definitions for cash hands are showing up when I do a seek as an open shove when a player is disconnected and times out. Here are a few examples.

are you referring to an open shove definition you made yourself? Otherwise I'm not certain which one you're referring to. If possible, please attach it




You mean all the ones that installed when I first ran HM2 are the same as the default def that came w/ the stand alone NC? It looked like there were a lot more (and several different series) in the HM2 alpha version. Am I wrong?


no, the hm2 definitions are different. In fact, there are much less definitions that come with hm2 by default. They are made to take advantage of the new nc hm-app features but I am only allowed to include very few by default for performance reasons. If you want to add the ones from the standalone NC product, then you can do so by clicking tools->import definitions and then pointing to where your notecaddy 2 is installed. It may be c:\program files (x86)\notecaddy 2\definitions


Really need more info than this. On paired boards a hand like xx33 on AAx flop is considered Top Pair Low Kicker, a Non Nut Straight is always a Nut Straight, as I did also mention in assault forum, it is considering a straight on the river often as Open Ended Straight Draw, it doesn't make any difference between a Non Nut Open Ender, a Nut Open Ender, a Non Nut 13 Wrap, a Nut 17 Wrap etc...
Regarding the points mentioned above, how does it come that you think caddy sparks is still reliable for PLO?

this is going to get more attention over the next few days. It never seems to make it to the top of the list since only a hand full of people use NC for omaha but if it's in the software it should work 100%

SteveCut
07-10-2011, 03:33 AM
Is there a way to just run color coding on demand? Currently when I want to run color coding I change the time of the 'Automatically run color coding each day at' option, which is a bit kludgy.

The 'Export color definitions as note labels' option doesn't seem to work. The definitions in the XML file were unchanged. (I've now amended them manually, and yes it was for Pokerstars)

Has anyone written and made available more sophisticated player type definitions?

shahrad
07-10-2011, 04:25 AM
this is going to get more attention over the next few days. It never seems to make it to the top of the list since only a hand full of people use NC for omaha but if it's in the software it should work 100%

I don't know why only a hand full of people use NC for Omaha but one might be the inaccurate handrange. I don't know if you play PLO or not, but there are big differences between different kind of draws. The information TP/Flush Draw or combo draw is just not enough. Even Gut Shots play a big role. For example: AsAdTc9s is way stronger than KsQsJc7d on 7s6s2c but both of them are TP/Flush Draw. There is also a big difference between a bare Nut Flush Draw and a Nut Flush Draw + Gut Shot and the way ppl play those hands. Or regarding a combo draw: some play a non nut open ender + weak flush draw fast and some play a combo draw only fast when it has at least a 13 nut straight draw + Nut flush draw.
Therefore for my definitions I have to use flophand, cards and flopboard instead of only flop handrange. This produces lots of notes and I have to go through all of them or most of them for that I get a somewhat accurate picture of his range. This is very time consuming.
This influences ofc also the Caddy Report, I see someone played fast a combo draw, but when I don't know what kind of combo draw it was, than I cannot adjust. Because of this when I multi table, I don't use caddy reports, cause it disturbes more than it helps.
I don't know how much time you want to spend on this stuff, but for NC to become indispensable for PLO players, you really need to consider the points I mentioned.

shahrad
07-10-2011, 04:45 PM
because spark points are based on an equity calculator versus 10k random hands - it is a much simpler process

Does the general Handstrength also use this system? I mean a hand like AKQ2 on A86r board, does this hand have a strong spark point? The general Handstrength evaluates this hand as 95! And on the same board it evaluates 9875 as 85 and bottom set also as 95! How would the spark points look like for these 3 hands?

sreticentv
07-10-2011, 05:16 PM
Is there a way to just run color coding on demand? Currently when I want to run color coding I change the time of the 'Automatically run color coding each day at' option, which is a bit kludgy.

The 'Export color definitions as note labels' option doesn't seem to work. The definitions in the XML file were unchanged. (I've now amended them manually, and yes it was for Pokerstars)

Has anyone written and made available more sophisticated player type definitions?


1. from the start screen there is an option "color code pokerstars..."

2. stars changed their format and I hadn't been able to update but I figured out a way now and it will be in the next release. Thanks for the info

3. not publically. I've worked for some mid/high stakes players to help them come up with some very complex stuff but none of this can be made public obviously :(


I don't know why only a hand full of people use NC for Omaha but one might be the inaccurate handrange. I don't know if you play PLO or not, but there are big differences between different kind of draws. The information TP/Flush Draw or combo draw is just not enough. Even Gut Shots play a big role. For example: AsAdTc9s is way stronger than KsQsJc7d on 7s6s2c but both of them are TP/Flush Draw. There is also a big difference between a bare Nut Flush Draw and a Nut Flush Draw + Gut Shot and the way ppl play those hands. Or regarding a combo draw: some play a non nut open ender + weak flush draw fast and some play a combo draw only fast when it has at least a 13 nut straight draw + Nut flush draw.
Therefore for my definitions I have to use flophand, cards and flopboard instead of only flop handrange. This produces lots of notes and I have to go through all of them or most of them for that I get a somewhat accurate picture of his range. This is very time consuming.
This influences ofc also the Caddy Report, I see someone played fast a combo draw, but when I don't know what kind of combo draw it was, than I cannot adjust. Because of this when I multi table, I don't use caddy reports, cause it disturbes more than it helps.
I don't know how much time you want to spend on this stuff, but for NC to become indispensable for PLO players, you really need to consider the points I mentioned.

indeed the fact that I know crap about omaha does not help to make NC-omaha a stronger product. That said I don't know much about tournaments either but lots of people bought it for that and I followed their requests to make it stronger for that. I do understand what you're saying about the existing classifications not giving accurate enough info but in the heat of battle, do you really have time to read all those details? We'll see how it goes when more people are allowed to use this for free and give feedback but my guess is that the spark graphs would be more useful which brings the next post...


Does the general Handstrength also use this system? I mean a hand like AKQ2 on A86r board, does this hand have a strong spark point? The general Handstrength evaluates this hand as 95! And on the same board it evaluates 9875 as 85 and bottom set also as 95! How would the spark points look like for these 3 hands?

You didn't specify suits so I had to kind of guess...

for Ah Kc Qd 2s on As 8h 6c I got 86 which may be too high for TPTK but given it's a dry board seems ok to me ( I definitely could be wrong though)

for 9h 8s 7c 5d I got 84 which is probably low?

then for 9h 8s 6s 6d I did get 95 as you said but that also seems ok to me

To answer your question, these values are exactly what would appear as spark points. I don't assume anything is perfect so if you have some correction/critique I am always glad to hear it and act on it.

I had said the spark points need to be more accurate since I am just calling the standard equity calculator vs 10k random hands and using that result - no interpretation/tricky coding for nuts etc required

shahrad
07-11-2011, 03:24 AM
I do understand what you're saying about the existing classifications not giving accurate enough info but in the heat of battle, do you really have time to read all those details?

As said, the way it is, no, I cannot and therefore I don't use caddy report, I have too many informations that I must go through a.raised Cbet b.combo draw c.cards d.flopboard, for that I cann see what kind of combo draw it was and comparing cards with flopboard costs lots of energy in the heat of battle. But if I had the information raised cbet Nut Openender + weak flush draw or called Cbet Top Pair + Nut flush draw or didn't float bet Nut 13 + weak flush draw or missed cbet on paired with AA overpair, than I could adjust immediately and this wouldn't cost me lots of concentration, cause this way there are only 2 informations and they are accurate.

shahrad
07-11-2011, 03:36 AM
You didn't specify suits so I had to kind of guess...

for Ah Kc Qd 2s on As 8h 6c I got 86 which may be too high for TPTK but given it's a dry board seems ok to me ( I definitely could be wrong though)

for 9h 8s 7c 5d I got 84 which is probably low?

then for 9h 8s 6s 6d I did get 95 as you said but that also seems ok to me

To answer your question, these values are exactly what would appear as spark points. I don't assume anything is perfect so if you have some correction/critique I am always glad to hear it and act on it.

I had said the spark points need to be more accurate since I am just calling the standard equity calculator vs 10k random hands and using that result - no interpretation/tricky coding for nuts etc required
I didn't specify suit cause the flopboard is rainbow (A86r). AKQ2 on A86 is a bluff catcher when you get raised, so how can it be as strong as 95. Especially when it comes with backdoor flushes vs good opponents it is a check behind and not a continuation bet. It doens't have any equity vs any legitimate raising hand. As such it should have a rating of 60 or so. Even bottom set is not a good hand to raise with, it doesn't get action from worse. As such it should have a rating not more than 75 or so. While 9875 has equity vs. almost any hand and 50% vs Topset. As such it should have a rating of 95. I didn't try this on other boards, but as you said vs. 10K random hands, somehow it did came to my mind that this cannot be accurate on dry boards, cause most hands miss these boards and there are only few hands with equity vs. nuts. Therefore I think this problem might also exist on straight boards, especially on rainbow straight boards and on paired boards.
I don't know a thing about software programming, but I know a lot about PLO, so if I can help you in any way, just ask here in the forum or pm me.

johncc
07-12-2011, 12:31 PM
Omaha notes don't appear to be separated from NLHE notes

So as i reviewed hands in the Notecaddy replayer of an Omaha hand I was playing, the notes actually refer to NLHE the villain has played and in fact was FR and not 6 Max or even Omaha

This can't be correct as they need to be separated as they are all played differently.

rowhousepd
07-12-2011, 06:33 PM
no, the hm2 definitions are different. In fact, there are much less definitions that come with hm2 by default. They are made to take advantage of the new nc hm-app features but I am only allowed to include very few by default for performance reasons. If you want to add the ones from the standalone NC product, then you can do so by clicking tools->import definitions and then pointing to where your notecaddy 2 is installed. It may be c:\program files (x86)\notecaddy 2\definitions

Sorry if I'm misunderstanding you here again or was being unclear myself. What I was basically asking is how I could install ALL of the defs that are offered in HM2. When I activated it originally, it gave me the option for I believe 4 different sets of defs. I only opted for the deep stack series at the time, though I'm pretty sure there were a much of others.

The problem is now that I've installed just that one group, I can't get back to that original screen and thus do not know how (or if it's possible) to download all of the ones originally offered when I first turned NC on. (I'd really rather no uninstal HM2 completely and reinstalling it, which I suppose would do the trick as well.

I guess this is a separate issue than the stand along NC, which I realize is it's own entity. Hope that makes more sense. :)

sreticentv
07-13-2011, 07:01 AM
Omaha notes don't appear to be separated from NLHE notes

So as i reviewed hands in the Notecaddy replayer of an Omaha hand I was playing, the notes actually refer to NLHE the villain has played and in fact was FR and not 6 Max or even Omaha

This can't be correct as they need to be separated as they are all played differently.


please clarify what you mean by "notecaddy replayer". You mean the HEM replayer?


Sorry if I'm misunderstanding you here again or was being unclear myself. What I was basically asking is how I could install ALL of the defs that are offered in HM2. When I activated it originally, it gave me the option for I believe 4 different sets of defs. I only opted for the deep stack series at the time, though I'm pretty sure there were a much of others.

The problem is now that I've installed just that one group, I can't get back to that original screen and thus do not know how (or if it's possible) to download all of the ones originally offered when I first turned NC on. (I'd really rather no uninstal HM2 completely and reinstalling it, which I suppose would do the trick as well.

I guess this is a separate issue than the stand along NC, which I realize is it's own entity. Hope that makes more sense. :)

The notecaddy hm-app doesn't have a wizard. If you saw one it was because:

-you installed HM2 before the NC wizard was removed
-there was some bug

You can access the screen with all the available definitions from the NoteCaddy standalone by going to tools->run setup wizard. I mention this because I know you're a NC standalone customer. You can then do tools->import->definitions from the HM-App NC and point it to your standalone definitions folder which is c:\program files (x86)\notecaddy 2\definitions by default

johncc
07-13-2011, 07:15 AM
please clarify what you mean by "notecaddy replayer". You mean the HEM replayer?


Reports/Hand Viewer, preety sure when you select a notcaddy note it opens, Notecaddy Replayer

But my point being, is it shows a NLHE Note when i am playing Omaha

johncc
07-13-2011, 10:50 AM
I deleted my Notes and started over, it imported them again, but once again they dont show when playing they only show when using the hand viewer

Also it appears that some Omaha Notes simply tell me on occasions what the flop is, can you explain why please

so it would say {PF} Open raise UTG - Check IP- 3KAsss-Check IP- 3KAsss6s-Check IP- 3KAsss6s4 vs me I LOST (2)

so dont understand except that was the flop

As can be seen in the picture no Notecaddy indication on Villain but we do have notes on him, whcih can be seen on the right

sreticentv
07-14-2011, 07:14 PM
Does the general Handstrength also use this system? I mean a hand like AKQ2 on A86r board, does this hand have a strong spark point? The general Handstrength evaluates this hand as 95! And on the same board it evaluates 9875 as 85 and bottom set also as 95! How would the spark points look like for these 3 hands?

I made some changes here will be the new results.


Ah Kc Qd 2s
Ad 8h 6s
90 strength


6c 6d 5h Kc
Ad 8h 6s
97 strength


9h 8s 7c 5d
Ad 8h 6s
97 strength


What do you think?

edit: I had to increase the accuracy of the calculator so omaha hands may process more slowly now

sreticentv
07-14-2011, 07:16 PM
Reports/Hand Viewer, preety sure when you select a notcaddy note it opens, Notecaddy Replayer

But my point being, is it shows a NLHE Note when i am playing Omaha

there were some issues with filtering by game type (especially for omaha). It was only filtering in live games but I'll probably change it so in replayers it also filters but that's surprisingly a little trickier




Also it appears that some Omaha Notes simply tell me on occasions what the flop is, can you explain why please

so it would say {PF} Open raise UTG - Check IP- 3KAsss-Check IP- 3KAsss6s-Check IP- 3KAsss6s4 vs me I LOST (2)


This is a cyborg note so my guess is he didn't show down... in any case I'd need the hand history itself to make a better determination

johncc
07-15-2011, 02:11 AM
I will probably never find the hand again, if i spot another i will upload

When i play live the notecaddy used to pop up and start taking notes, it has stopped doing this now

The DB i am using only contains Omaha hands, i can see its taken notes but they aren't showing up when playing

shahrad
07-15-2011, 05:00 AM
I made some changes here will be the new results.


Ah Kc Qd 2s
Ad 8h 6s
90 strength


6c 6d 5h Kc
Ad 8h 6s
97 strength


9h 8s 7c 5d
Ad 8h 6s
97 strength


What do you think?

edit: I had to increase the accuracy of the calculator so omaha hands may process more slowly now

Although this is better, I think a good solution would be a weighted range of 30% nuts and 70% random (something like this). This would produce a picture of equity vs. nuts and equity vs. betting range.
I used slice ev++ with 70% random and 30% AA** on A86r:
66**=64.4
88**=66.1
A832=67
A632=63.6
AKQ2=56.7
9875=63.9
8654=52.3 Bottom 2 + Non Nut Gut shot
KQT8=41 Middle pair
7432= 21 Non Nut Gut shot
QJT9=37.5 Nut Gut shot
KQT5=24 Air

Than I tried a wet straight board: JhTh8c ****=70 Q9**=30
Q9**=76 Nut Straight
JJ**=68 Top Set
TT**=66.3 Middle Set
88**=67 Bottom Set
8832!(*h*h**)=59.6 bare bottom set
AKQ9=81 Nut STR + STR redraw
AhKQ9h=88 Nut STR + NFD
AhJJ9h=82.2 Topset + NFD
AhKcQh2c=69 Biggest Draw
KhQh8d6d=65.7
9765=58 Non Nut Straight
AKJT=60 Top2+ Nut Gut shot
A865=34.1 Air
AT32=34.2 middlepair
AJ32=37.4 toppair
AcKc7h5h=49.1 Weakflushdraw
AhKc7h5h=55.7 Nutflushdraw

Now we need the following spark points: >= 69 (strong), >= 60 (good), >= 50 (medium), >= 35 (weak), <= 35 (Air) and maybe >= 79 (nuts)

This seems fine to me.

shahrad
07-23-2011, 05:22 AM
2.0.0.4762 Did even reinstall HM2 completely and created a new database but NC doesn't take any notes.

SteveCut
07-23-2011, 06:54 AM
I installed 2.0.0.4762 from scratch today. Notecaddy no longer runs. I get the message "Notecaddy must be enabled in HUD options before being used." I've checked the checkboxes to 'show notecaddy notes' and to 'start caddy report on HUD launch' (in HUD options>displayed stats) which is presumably what is required, but notecaddy still doesn't run. I've also tried restarting HM2.

[EDIT] Resolved. I restarted windows and notecaddy now starts OK.

shahrad
07-23-2011, 08:17 AM
[EDIT] Resolved. I restarted windows and notecaddy now starts OK.
Indeed restarting windows activated note taking, but it is taking notes with 5 hands/sec. My original NC takes notes with 45H/s. Turbo mode is on.

sreticentv
07-23-2011, 08:21 AM
Yeah right now the NC HM-app is set to super slow mode unless you minimize HEM itself (and even then it's still purposely slow). The reason being so that it doesn't interfere with the HEM user experience. Work is still being done to optimize everything but right now the emphasis is on HEM responsiveness

shahrad
07-23-2011, 09:06 AM
Seeking only works when creating notes is active. When I stop creating notes than it doesn't seek any hands.

johncc
07-23-2011, 11:00 AM
Notecaddy doesnt work (show), I have never had the little box pop up to import, even though i know it has imported notes.

Notecaddy Notes have never shown, also the notes that show in HM2, still mix up NLHE and Omaha in the same notes for an Omaha game

shahrad
07-23-2011, 11:57 AM
Now you can see the notes but NC is difinitively not working properly.
I modified the notes and it didn't take any notes. So I restarted my pc, and now as soon as I opened HM2 it started automatically to take notes. I stopped it, launched NC and tried to create notes. Nothing happens. I closed and restarted twice HM2 (not windows) and it started to take notes. But now for a definition with player had to showdown and $flophandrange, one player had 16 hands that I could replay but I couldn't see the handrange notes, while this worked for other definitions, it didn't work for Donk bets. So I checked my definition, everything was correct, saved it again and then I did go to task processor. It deleted old notes but it doesn't take any new notes.

shahrad
07-23-2011, 12:07 PM
Another problem has the color coding for definitions. I have color coded both Calls Cbet OOP and IP as green, but OOP it is still taking notes in black.
I also did see some sparks graphs. Very nice but as long as AKQ9 rainbow on A86 rainbow board is 95 this will manipulate the sparks massively. Someone who stakcs off with bare Toppair in PLO, he is stacking off light and not strong.
One word to HM staff. I rather use HM1 with NC than a HM2 without a working NC. So please help sreticentv. A properly working NC and its further developments will make all the filters and reports redundant.
I have created notes for the most important lines that villain might take as PFR or as cold caller. Bets vs missed CBet, floats, donks, delayed cbets, raising cbets, donk barreling, float barreling... (flop, turn, river, as shortie or with shallow stack or deep). Now I have all the information that I need, what do I still need to analyze certain lines which villain takes in Holdemmanager. I have also seperate the notes regarding floptexture: Paired Boards, Monotone Boards, Straight Boards and the rest (this makes 5 different floptextures). What do I still need the filters for floptextures, when I have already all the informations gathered by NC (I have around 90 different note definitions).
As someone who lives from Online Poker, I need only 3 things: Custom stats, a farther developement of NC and a replayer, just about all the remaining (Schnickschnack) functions of HM2 are somewhat redundant, boring and complicated.
Before I forget it, there is still another thing that would be very helpful:
A report for all hands in my database in the way PT3 has it. I chose a certain floptexture, an effective flop stacksize, raised vs cbet and went to showdown. Now it shows me all the hands in my database which meet those conditions and I will have a very accurate picture on what is going on in this situation. At some point NC might be able to do this as well, I mean it does it now but we would need some built-in note windows which we could save.
Regarding the farther development of NC:
1) More floptexture filters: I want to be able to differ between flops with two broadways and one broadway.
2) More accurate handrange filter: (example) Not two pair + flushdraw but top 2 + Nut flush draw, bottom 2 + weak flushdraw. Not combo draw but 13 wrap + weak flushdraw or non nut openender + Nutflushdraw.....
3) I want to see immidiately which note was taken for which player. The caddy report does this but this is when multi tabling not useful (I am talking about 4 to 6 tabling and not 32), it should somehow indicate the player directly on the table. Most of the money that is to make, comes from players who only play 200-300 hands or less. There is no time for a post session analysis, cause I will not see those players again. So a system that shows me as fast as possible which note was taken on which player directly on my tables (something like the chats on ongame), would be awesome, cause with little information I could fast and easily adjust.
4) Effective SPR and not Effective stacksize! This is so important. I wouldn't need different definitions for 3 bet pots, singleraised pots, 4 bet pots, limped pots, short stacks, shallow stacks, full stacks, deep stacks. Effective SPR does it all.

sreticentv
07-23-2011, 07:24 PM
NC has a "timeout" that causes it to shut off if it thinks HM2 has closed. This is to fix the issue of the HEM process still running after closing the program. Yeah HEM advises NC when it closes but under some circumstances, it doesn't.
I had lowered the timeout in NC too much which is why it wasn't taking notes sometimes. I made that adjustment now so it shouldn't do it anymore. I also fixed seek.

I am looking into the omaha and holdem notes being shown in the replayer/hand viewer. I'm also going to get to the failing colors today.

As far as the feature requests go, these are well written and well thought out and I appreciate it. I think you'll understand that the other issues do take priority though

shahrad
07-23-2011, 10:24 PM
(something like the chats on ongame).
I would even replace showing mucked cards with showing NC notes for every showdown hand.

johncc
07-24-2011, 02:12 AM
I am looking into the omaha and holdem notes being shown in the replayer/hand viewer. I'm also going to get to the failing colors today.


TBH i don't care i just want NC to show on Microgaming

udbrky
07-24-2011, 02:32 AM
Earlier I didn't get any for MG, then I exited that DB, came back and it was there.

johncc
07-24-2011, 03:41 AM
OK will re try again later today

SteveCut
07-24-2011, 05:11 AM
I installed 2.0.0.4762 from scratch today. Notecaddy no longer runs. I get the message "Notecaddy must be enabled in HUD options before being used." I've checked the checkboxes to 'show notecaddy notes' and to 'start caddy report on HUD launch' (in HUD options>displayed stats) which is presumably what is required, but notecaddy still doesn't run. I've also tried restarting HM2.

[EDIT] Resolved. I restarted windows and notecaddy now starts OK.

I have this problem again and restarting the pc isn't fixing it. Notecaddy is enabled in HM but but won't run. It's reporting that it needs to be enabled (as described above.)

sreticentv
07-24-2011, 07:30 AM
I have this problem again and restarting the pc isn't fixing it. Notecaddy is enabled in HM but but won't run. It's reporting that it needs to be enabled (as described above.)

You'd need to wait till the next build comes out


TBH i don't care i just want NC to show on Microgaming

do your micro gaming hands look like this:
16941

maybe they changed the hand history format

BlackSaphire
07-24-2011, 06:03 PM
Hi.
When I first run NoteCaddy on a fresh installation of HEM2b, after reimporting all HHs from my archive, it worked fine creating a bunch of notes from the DB.

I have a problem when playing live: both boxes are checked in HUD Options, NC starts and duly opens CaddyReport, I can see the hands being processed, but no new notes are created.

The Creatign Notes tab reads:
All hands processed. Notes Added: 0. Waiting for new hands...
Total Processed: 423 Cached Players : 0

I've tried to copy a hand from my current session (playing right now...) and paste it in the Test Environment and it correctly triggered the Definitions it's supposed to... but those notes haven't been created.

I'm playing MTTs, OS Win7, if that helps.
Error Log: http://www.the-last-aerie.com/error_log.zip

sreticentv
07-24-2011, 09:13 PM
Hi black sapphire

Thank you for trying note caddy. I am pretty sure the live note problem should be fixed in the next release. I will take a look at your log file though, thank you for including it

udbrky
07-24-2011, 10:11 PM
Yes, the microgaming hands are the same. Let me know if you need some hands.

I had an issue yesterday where they didn't show, but they have showed since then.

johncc
07-25-2011, 06:43 AM
Does NC differentiate between MTT, Cash and PLO?

i.e. for MTT does it only shows notes for mtt and for cash only shows cash etc etc

Also when playing Microgaming Caddy report never opens

sreticentv
07-25-2011, 08:26 AM
Does NC differentiate between MTT, Cash and PLO?

i.e. for MTT does it only shows notes for mtt and for cash only shows cash etc etc


it was only doing that on live tables but per your recommendation it will be doing that for replayer/hand viewer in the next version



Also when playing Microgaming Caddy report never opens

there are some issues with micro gaming and hem in general as confirmed by udbirkey in this thread http://forums.holdemmanager.com/general-support/101391-microgaming.html

once those are taken care of, the NC issues should be fixed along with them otherwise attention will be placed there

johncc
07-25-2011, 08:28 AM
Excellent news TYVM

johncc
07-26-2011, 08:46 AM
Ignore

varjagin
07-27-2011, 07:34 PM
Hi, after trying NC in HEM2 I downloaded the trial version of the standalone NC2, and I can't seem to find the CaddySpark feature there - is that not included in the standalone NoteCaddy?

sreticentv
07-27-2011, 07:50 PM
that's correct - the CaddySparks are only for hm2

johncc
07-28-2011, 06:11 AM
Notes are now being written, however; in live play if i click the note, the manual note entry ONLY shows and not the NC notes

Secondly i was going to add NC notes to my hud, but i cant see where that option has gone

08-15am
07-28-2011, 05:59 PM
i installed NC separately and have it in HM II.
At first it worked well but i had to stop after 1m hands of 4m.

when i tried to continue no notes were written. and now i cant even start the automatic note taking process in hmII.
when i click it nothing happens. i also cleared all notes but nothing changed.

when i start nc separately i can trigger the automatic note taking process but no notes are written.
i purchased nc recently it takes forever saying finding hands to process and then no notes were taken although i cleared all notes.

tried reinstall nc as well but didnt help either.
any clue

08-15am
07-28-2011, 06:53 PM
i guess i found the problem in hm II why nothing is happening. because there are no note definitions.
how can I import them in hmII like i was able in the separate NC client by running update process. this is not available within HMII. or is there a way to copy them from nc to nc in hmII ??

udbrky
07-28-2011, 07:09 PM
Open HUD Options, Make sure that “Show Caddy Notes” is checked
Click HM Apps – Note Caddy.

Then go to Tools - Import - and you can import note definitions you have there.

Is the Creating Notes window open? If not, click the green arrow under Automatic Notes

The first time you run note caddy, it should prompt you to download a set of definitions. Did you delete them?

sreticentv
07-28-2011, 09:13 PM
Notes are now being written, however; in live play if i click the note, the manual note entry ONLY shows and not the NC notes


does the flag show in the hud?



Secondly i was going to add NC notes to my hud, but i cant see where that option has gone

it might be NC isn't loading properly so the notes won't be in the regular hud options. Some fixes have been made and a new build could come tomorrow I believe


i installed NC separately and have it in HM II.
At first it worked well but i had to stop after 1m hands of 4m.


which one worked for 1m hands, the standalone?



when i tried to continue no notes were written. and now i cant even start the automatic note taking process in hmII.
when i click it nothing happens. i also cleared all notes but nothing changed.
i purchased nc recently it takes forever saying finding hands to process and then no notes were taken although i cleared all notes.


if you're using filtering through 4m hands, there could be a decent sized delay until it starts. How long did you wait?



i guess i found the problem in hm II why nothing is happening. because there are no note definitions.
how can I import them in hmII like i was able in the separate NC client by running update process. this is not available within HMII. or is there a way to copy them from nc to nc in hmII ??

udb answered the question about copying them but I'm not sure why they didn't appear automatically in hm2 since they're supposed to download in the background right when you start hm2 with nc activated. I'll have to try to reproduce that somehow.

The only thing I can think of is if you start hm2 then immediately go into nc before the notes have had a chance to download - either that or my server had downtime which would be bad

OTPlayboy
07-28-2011, 09:53 PM
Hey Srenti how's it goin OT here. Just wanted to say this is awesome being integrated with HM2 but . . . . . the initial setup never happened for me just an FYI it actually just input a few def's on it's own but never asked i believe the campa pack but i was never actually given a choice i imported to ones i wanted just fine but for newbies to NC this might not be as clear without the initial setup wizard in good working order.

PS to the haters this guy is awesome support wise he has never failed to get back to me as i have been an NC customer for 7 or 8 months and he is always polite and prompt with his software. Be it questions that just need answering (as this is a complex piece of software and that is the nature of the beast) or when a fix needs to be worked out never waited more than a day for a response and he usually has it fixed within 48 hours or so. Just my 2 cents.

sreticentv
07-28-2011, 10:36 PM
Hey Srenti how's it goin OT here. Just wanted to say this is awesome being integrated with HM2 but . . . . . the initial setup never happened for me just an FYI it actually just input a few def's on it's own but never asked i believe the campa pack but i was never actually given a choice i imported to ones i wanted just fine but for newbies to NC this might not be as clear without the initial setup wizard in good working order.


sup :)

There is no wizard in the hm-app. For ease of use, the standard defs are loaded automatically and then if people want more there's going to be a big directory to choose from on the assaultware site

OTPlayboy
07-29-2011, 01:15 AM
Ok Cheers!:cool:

rowhousepd
07-29-2011, 02:12 AM
Hey Srenti how's it goin OT here. Just wanted to say this is awesome being integrated with HM2 but . . . . . the initial setup never happened for me just an FYI it actually just input a few def's on it's own but never asked i believe the campa pack but i was never actually given a choice i imported to ones i wanted just fine but for newbies to NC this might not be as clear without the initial setup wizard in good working order.

Yes, that is exactly what I asked a while ago -- and I swear there really was a wizard when I first installed HM2 a month ago. But then udbrky said....

The first time you run note caddy, it should prompt you to download a set of definitions. Did you delete them?
So I'm not exactly sure. Either way I do have the original notes from the NC standalone version + my own, and technically it's working fine. Just confused. Cheers.

udbrky
07-29-2011, 03:32 AM
I did a clean install today and it all loaded and noted on its own. I know there have been some changes, check the next build we release.

rowhousepd
07-29-2011, 03:37 AM
I did a clean install today and it all loaded and noted on its own. I know there have been some changes, check the next build we release.

But I've already customized a lot in HM2. Is there as easy way to save my various customized configs? Feel like they are in a bunch of different folders... but perhaps there's an easy way.

udbrky
07-29-2011, 03:40 AM
You can back up popups by moving them to a new folder. You can restore note caddy definitions by moving the folder from the app data folder in your user account (see the FAQ) to another account.

HUDs will need to be deleted for the new install to fix the blank hud issue.

What else do you want to save.

rowhousepd
07-29-2011, 03:54 AM
You can back up popups by moving them to a new folder. You can restore note caddy definitions by moving the folder from the app data folder in your user account (see the FAQ) to another account.

HUDs will need to be deleted for the new install to fix the blank hud issue.

What else do you want to save.

Reports & filters.... or is that saved w/ the popups? (I'm used to the way HM1 was set up, so maybe I've got it wrong.)

udbrky
07-29-2011, 03:56 AM
You can copy them to a backup folder, then paste them back. They will be in the program files folder.

rowhousepd
07-29-2011, 04:07 AM
You can copy them to a backup folder, then paste them back. They will be in the program files folder.

Ok, just so I'm clear, I'm copying the folders:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Holdem Manager 2\Config
C:\Program Files (x86)\Holdem Manager 2\ReplayerSkins
C:\Program Files (x86)\Holdem Manager 2\Reports

And maybe the file:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Holdem Manager 2\ColorDefinitions.xml

Maybe not?

And am I just copping everything in C:\Users\xxxxx\AppData\Roaming\HoldemManager as well? Also, what are the popups you just mentioned? :confused:

udbrky
07-29-2011, 04:15 AM
Do not delete the database folder in roaming if you don't want to reimport your hands.

you don't want to copy your prefs file - everyone should create new huds after the next build, the old ones are causing all the issues with no hud and crashes.

You won't need replayer skins - there's only teh default.

Caddy definitions needs to be saved. You can export your caddy notes in the hm apps - note caddy - file - export notes to text file

rowhousepd
07-29-2011, 04:18 AM
Do not delete the database folder in roaming if you don't want to reimport your hands.

you don't want to copy your prefs file - everyone should create new huds after the next build, the old ones are causing all the issues with no hud and crashes.

You won't need replayer skins - there's only teh default.

Caddy definitions needs to be saved. You can export your caddy notes in the hm apps - note caddy - file - export notes to text file

OK. I'll cross my fingers & give it a shot. Fwiw, I think you might want to make a sticky or FAQ or something. :)

johncc
07-29-2011, 04:55 AM
NC is importing about 5m notes, so i left it on overnight at it has done 700K, should it take this long?

08-15am
07-29-2011, 09:54 AM
as was already stated, my automatic note definition import in HM II didnt work. now i managed to copy them from the stand alone version but copied all of them (i think i marked the first 3 complilations in the wizard) I. I play 6m and HU. What note definitions do you recommend me to use?

what are the differences between standalone and hmII app. You said due to performance restriction one should only use fewer note definitions within hm II app. what are then the merits of using the hm II app if I am a standalone customer?

thanks

sookmctourie
07-29-2011, 01:34 PM
I am missing the nc stats. Is there something I need to do to get them?

18021

johncc
07-29-2011, 01:50 PM
I am missing the nc stats. Is there something I need to do to get them?

18021

I already asked about this yesterday at #115

sookmctourie
07-29-2011, 02:17 PM
I already asked about this yesterday at #115

Since yesterday, I have installed the most recent update. The NC stats are still not available.

johncc
07-29-2011, 02:22 PM
Since the last 3 or more updates, NC does almost everything , except show in the hud

kneedamage
07-29-2011, 06:39 PM
Still says "Must be enabled in HUD options before use."

I have clicked Show caddy notes and rechecked it about 100 times. Note caddy still will not open in the HM Apps.

udbrky
07-29-2011, 06:46 PM
Open your holdemmanager.cfg file with notepad, towards the end, there's a note caddy section. Change the false to true. Save. Restart HM2.

Located in:

7: C:\Users\{username}\AppData\Roaming\HoldemManager\
Showing hidden files: How to show hidden files in Windows 7 (http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial151.html)
XP: c:\documents and settings\{username}\appdata\HoldemManager
Showing hidden files: Microsoft Corporation (http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/win_fcab_show_file_extensions.mspx?mfr=true)

kneedamage
07-29-2011, 07:03 PM
Open your holdemmanager.cfg file with notepad, towards the end, there's a note caddy section. Change the false to true. Save. Restart HM2.

Located in:

7: C:\Users\{username}\AppData\Roaming\HoldemManager\
Showing hidden files: How to show hidden files in Windows 7 (http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial151.html)
XP: c:\documents and settings\{username}\appdata\HoldemManager
Showing hidden files: Microsoft Corporation (http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/win_fcab_show_file_extensions.mspx?mfr=true)

Thank you sir!

udbrky
07-29-2011, 07:04 PM
You're welcome.

OTPlayboy
07-29-2011, 08:43 PM
Open your holdemmanager.cfg file with notepad, towards the end, there's a note caddy section. Change the false to true. Save. Restart HM2.

Located in:

7: C:\Users\{username}\AppData\Roaming\HoldemManager\
Showing hidden files: How to show hidden files in Windows 7 (http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial151.html)
XP: c:\documents and settings\{username}\appdata\HoldemManager
Showing hidden files: Microsoft Corporation (http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/win_fcab_show_file_extensions.mspx?mfr=true)

So i have this same issue after a HEM2 crash while creating notes and upon taking a look in that folder i have holdemmanager.config not .cfg and i opened it in notepad and scrolled down and it says true

<Section Name="NoteCaddy">
<Key Name="ShowNoteCaddyNotes" Value="True" />

yet hm2 still says to enable in hud options to access note caddy

udbrky
07-29-2011, 08:47 PM
Set it to false, save, open HM2. Try checking to show note caddy. Restart. Does it still show it? If so, change the config file to true. Restart.

How is that?

Sorry - did it from memory and I don't have file types shown, forgot it is config vs cfg.

OTPlayboy
07-29-2011, 09:18 PM
Still didn't work says true in the file after i check the box and restart still won't allow access to note caddy

udbrky
07-29-2011, 09:24 PM
sreticentv will most likely have the fix, I'm not sure why it isn't doing it.

OTPlayboy
07-29-2011, 11:12 PM
just randomly started hm2 again and it's back working very strange but thanks for the help

sreticentv
07-30-2011, 09:53 AM
it fails to load sometimes. That was a bug that is fixed but we had to rollback the last patch so it's unfixed. It will be re-fixed again shortly

OTPlayboy
07-30-2011, 02:17 PM
ya i attempted like 15 times then gave up and it came up after i left it for like an hour

johncc
07-31-2011, 12:43 PM
Just to clarify, so i don't write lots of questions,when will NC work correctly or will it be working soon as i have far to many questions to ask....So i am just guessing it's all being worked on

Stasek
07-31-2011, 01:11 PM
What are NC popups in HUD options?
You can assign NC stats to various popups, but these doesn't show anywhere.
I created empty test popup, made it as a tab in the main popup and added two NC stats to it, and it doesn't display anything.

Also some NC stats are by assigned to some default popups and when I click on them, no NC stat is being displayed...


Take a loot at the attached screenshot and tell me what is the functionality of NC stats assigned to the "Default_Cbet popup"?

Thanks

pmania
07-31-2011, 01:17 PM
I don't know if this has been already asked but I nevertheless I would l like to know the answer. Are notecaddy notes also synced, so the end up in the postgresqql database or does it work different ?

sreticentv
07-31-2011, 02:02 PM
do you have notes showing up in the main popup and the little "N" flag?

I'm not able to replicate this problem but I'm using the brand newest version which isn't tested/released yet. There were some problems earlier with NC stuff having been wiped out...

The notes in the default_cbet popup are notes related to continuation bets like what the bet/don't bet and call with

sreticentv
07-31-2011, 02:04 PM
Just to clarify, so i don't write lots of questions,when will NC work correctly or will it be working soon as i have far to many questions to ask....So i am just guessing it's all being worked on

I wish I knew the answer to that question... my version works perfectly on all 4 test computers but it hasn't been released pending HM's QA process. Even then, there could still be bugs so as always I am very grateful to be informed of them


I don't know if this has been already asked but I nevertheless I would l like to know the answer. Are notecaddy notes also synced, so the end up in the postgresqql database or does it work different ?

they do end up in the postgres database in the table notecaddy_notes - which is now separate from manual notes much to my relief

Stasek
07-31-2011, 09:18 PM
Looks like it works after I restarted HEM
Yes - i see notes and NC icon, but on the SS attached you can assign NC stats to various popups so I thought it would show up there... and it did after i restarted

But it is still confusing me.
There are like 10 NC stats assigned to 'default_cbet' popup, but it only shows 2 of them (check the attached screenshots)
I have 4.6k hands on this player, so it should show more stats, shouln't it?

Stasek
07-31-2011, 09:26 PM
I have large amout of hands on one player on PS, over 10k and note caddy doesn't show any notes for him.
Same player (same SN, ignoring case-sensitivity) on FTP and Microgaming has notes (and sample is 400 and 200 hands respectively).
His opponent in the hand (on PS) has NC notes available, even though he only has few hundred hands played.
There are other players with large amount of hands on PS that have NC notes...

Also - does NC make nots on hero (I mean: would it be possible to check what notes NC made on me)?

DB has been imported from HM1 and then I ran NC notes update.

sreticentv
07-31-2011, 10:46 PM
you can go into notecaddy and go to file->settings->database settings and there is a field "log a specific player" and then put that player's name there. Then you can reprocess (file->reset notes & click start on the start page) and submit the log file with a link to this thread to support@notecaddy.com

Details on that are found here: How to make a log and send it to support (http://assaultwareforums.com/showthread.php?477-How-to-make-a-log-and-send-it-to-support)

The difference being that the log would exist in your hm2 folder rather than NC

For hero notes you have two options

1.) you can take notes on all hands and save themby going to file->settings->note settings->check add notes for hero
2.) the better option imo is to go into the hud tab in nc settings and pick "show hero notes..." which should be the default. It will show you the notes that would be generated for you at each live table so you see your table image etc

These options can be both picked but currently the live table one will be ignored if you chose the permanent one

sreticentv
07-31-2011, 10:49 PM
Looks like it works after I restarted HEM
Yes - i see notes and NC icon, but on the SS attached you can assign NC stats to various popups so I thought it would show up there... and it did after i restarted

But it is still confusing me.
There are like 10 NC stats assigned to 'default_cbet' popup, but it only shows 2 of them (check the attached screenshots)
I have 4.6k hands on this player, so it should show more stats, shouln't it?

that image on the right looks like it got created when you clicked the stat (correct me if I'm wrong there) what if you just hover the mouse over it? Does it have more notes then?

I never click the stats so I could have completely missed this scenario but I will look into it tomorrow in any case

08-15am
08-01-2011, 03:48 AM
I am looking for a overview .txt which explains all the basic note definitions that are included in the NC wizard (4-6 different cluster of note definitions) and to what games they best apply. gametype, betting structure, etc.

i play 6m and HU and dont know which rules are the best for me.

Stasek
08-01-2011, 04:19 AM
that image on the right looks like it got created when you clicked the stat (correct me if I'm wrong there) what if you just hover the mouse over it? Does it have more notes then?

I never click the stats so I could have completely missed this scenario but I will look into it tomorrow in any case

Yes, I clicked on the HUD to bring up main popup.
I think subpopups like 'default_cbet' should also appear when you just hoover a mouse over relevant stats

Stasek
08-01-2011, 04:32 AM
you can go into notecaddy and go to file->settings->database settings and there is a field "log a specific player" and then put that player's name there. Then you can reprocess (file->reset notes & click start on the start page) and submit the log file with a link to this thread to support@notecaddy.com

Details on that are found here: How to make a log and send it to support (http://assaultwareforums.com/showthread.php?477-How-to-make-a-log-and-send-it-to-support)

The difference being that the log would exist in your hm2 folder rather than NC

For hero notes you have two options

1.) you can take notes on all hands and save themby going to file->settings->note settings->check add notes for hero
2.) the better option imo is to go into the hud tab in nc settings and pick "show hero notes..." which should be the default. It will show you the notes that would be generated for you at each live table so you see your table image etc

These options can be both picked but currently the live table one will be ignored if you chose the permanent one

I'll check the logging option when I decide to reprocess notes.

"Show hero notes" was unchecked by default (95% sure about that, because I just installed NC day before and don't even recall going to advanced settings..)

Stasek
08-01-2011, 04:37 AM
Does NC separate HU from 6max/9max?
If I play somebody at HU, will it display 6max notes (that are all irrelevant here) and vice versa?

Also: stat description is like this: CR dry flop {hand range} (12/46 26%) (+11)

This +11 means 11% above average, but what is the average?
If I play opponent HU does it say he CR 11% more than average HU player, or than average player in my DB.

More general - are there any potential problems with having DB having mix of HU and 6max hands? Will stats be separated for eac h game type?

Stasek
08-01-2011, 05:44 AM
Bug report - missed CB OOP is wrong

NC replayer says: FH-2, TP-4, and grid (HMApps->NC->Tools->Player Note history shows FH-1, TP - 2)
Also - check the SS of the replayer attached - there are 13 hands loaded, and in the NC note it says "(14/26 53%)" suggesting there were 14 'successes'

This is HU PLO on PS

johncc
08-01-2011, 06:05 AM
Still doesnt work live for me, even though it used to

If i look at replayer the notes are there, however if i click any note, all that pops up, is the option to make my own notes

sreticentv
08-01-2011, 05:34 PM
I am looking for a overview .txt which explains all the basic note definitions that are included in the NC wizard (4-6 different cluster of note definitions) and to what games they best apply. gametype, betting structure, etc.

i play 6m and HU and dont know which rules are the best for me.

there is no wizard for the NC hm-app. If you are referring to the standalone, you can look at what each definition does by clicking "preview" in step 5 of the wizard. The campapoker.com definitions are usually the best starting point but everyone is different and there's no way to easily say which definitions will work best - it's like stats in your HUD - everyone has their own unique settings and sometimes it takes some experimenting to get it right.


Yes, I clicked on the HUD to bring up main popup.
I think subpopups like 'default_cbet' should also appear when you just hoover a mouse over relevant stats

I'll have to look at the main popup and see if it may be cutting off notes


I'll check the logging option when I decide to reprocess notes.

"Show hero notes" was unchecked by default (95% sure about that, because I just installed NC day before and don't even recall going to advanced settings..)

hero notes is supposed to be off by default although that could always change


Does NC separate HU from 6max/9max?
If I play somebody at HU, will it display 6max notes (that are all irrelevant here) and vice versa?


it separates by game size and type so heads up notes won't show up in a 6 max game. This could lead to some bemusement when games break up and you're HU with someone and their notes disappear...



Also: stat description is like this: CR dry flop {hand range} (12/46 26%) (+11)

This +11 means 11% above average, but what is the average?
If I play opponent HU does it say he CR 11% more than average HU player, or than average player in my DB.

More general - are there any potential problems with having DB having mix of HU and 6max hands? Will stats be separated for eac h game type?

you make a good point. The average is computed across the entire definition so heads up PLO hands would count the same as 10 max LHE hands. That may need to change ;)


Bug report - missed CB OOP is wrong

NC replayer says: FH-2, TP-4, and grid (HMApps->NC->Tools->Player Note history shows FH-1, TP - 2)
Also - check the SS of the replayer attached - there are 13 hands loaded, and in the NC note it says "(14/26 53%)" suggesting there were 14 'successes'

This is HU PLO on PS

I'm not entirely sure I understand but what could be the discrepancy between the 14 and the 3 (FH-1, TP - 2) is that he missed 14 times but only showed down 3 leaving the gap of 11. If you want explanations for those 11 I recommend going to NC note settings and check "print results for implicit..." which will tell you if he didn't show down because he folded or he won the hand because he continued showing aggression. There will still be gaps sometimes; for example, if he check/raises and the enemy folds immediately - this is no show down nor implicit strength/weakness since no further actions occurred.

for more info on implicits please see this case study: http://www.assaultware.com/videos/implicits.docx

they are hard to understand but I imagine you'll find them to be valuable



Still doesnt work live for me, even though it used to

If i look at replayer the notes are there, however if i click any note, all that pops up, is the option to make my own notes

I am pushing for a release and it could be today

Stasek
08-01-2011, 06:58 PM
I'll have to look at the main popup and see if it may be cutting off notes

When i hoover mouse over stats that show up 'default_cbet' popup, then everything is displayed correctly.
Looks like main popup is cutting them off.



it separates by game size and type so heads up notes won't show up in a 6 max game. This could lead to some bemusement when games break up and you're HU with someone and their notes disappear...


you make a good point. The average is computed across the entire definition so heads up PLO hands would count the same as 10 max LHE hands. That may need to change ;)


I play mostly HU but have decent amount of 6max hands in my DB
Stat calculation should be separated (def HU from the rest) and by different games ( NLH/PLO/LH).
For example average 3bet in HU PLO is about 20% and i guess 7% in 6max



I'm not entirely sure I understand but what could be the discrepancy between the 14 and the 3 (FH-1, TP - 2) is that he missed 14 times but only showed down 3 leaving the gap of 11. If you want explanations for those 11 I recommend going to NC note settings and check "print results for implicit..." which will tell you if he didn't show down because he folded or he won the hand because he continued showing aggression. There will still be gaps sometimes; for example, if he check/raises and the enemy folds immediately - this is no show down nor implicit strength/weakness since no further actions occurred.



I just dont understand why NC shows different data for the same stat?
why does it show FH-1, TP-2 in one place and in the replayer it is FH-2, TP-4 (but when i manually go over hands FH-1,TP-2 appears to be correct).

Do I need to reset notes to see implicit weakness/strength?

shahrad
08-02-2011, 04:05 AM
HM2.0.0.4813 NC error after selecting a filter. I couldn't even close the filter tab.

johncc
08-02-2011, 04:35 AM
HM2.0.0.4813 NC error after selecting a filter. I couldn't even close the filter tab.


NC still only shows the option to add your own notes and doesnt display any NC data.

Also NC has returned to the displayed stats option

shahrad
08-02-2011, 04:43 AM
I didn't try it at live tables but in the replayer, I have the red N and I can see the Notes.

johncc
08-02-2011, 05:04 AM
this is what i see when i press NC, as just highlighting over it does nothing.

However; if i add a NC note that note will appear

johncc
08-02-2011, 05:17 AM
OK , I found the problem, if i have click to pop up set NC doesnt show, if i take it off which i hate, NC notes do show

sreticentv
08-03-2011, 06:52 AM
When i hoover mouse over stats that show up 'default_cbet' popup, then everything is displayed correctly.
Looks like main popup is cutting them off.


ok thx I will look into it



I play mostly HU but have decent amount of 6max hands in my DB
Stat calculation should be separated (def HU from the rest) and by different games ( NLH/PLO/LH).
For example average 3bet in HU PLO is about 20% and i guess 7% in 6max


The stats themselves are but the averages are currently the "opportunity for improvement"



I just dont understand why NC shows different data for the same stat?
why does it show FH-1, TP-2 in one place and in the replayer it is FH-2, TP-4 (but when i manually go over hands FH-1,TP-2 appears to be correct).


there was a bug that caused that sometimes but it should be fixed now. Please try reprocessing



Do I need to reset notes to see implicit weakness/strength?

yes


HM2.0.0.4813 NC error after selecting a filter. I couldn't even close the filter tab.

did the error have any additional text describing what the problem was?


OK , I found the problem, if i have click to pop up set NC doesnt show, if i take it off which i hate, NC notes do show

maybe there could be some kind of a notecaddy popup option for when you click the note icon but I need to run it by HEM management before implementing it

fiammaz
08-03-2011, 10:13 AM
What about change the note font based on sample size? So if we have 1000 spots where villain is doing everytime the exact same thing the note could be automatically change to bold


Ah, bug report #1:
I was on your app, and I was creating a note when I right clicked and then clicked seek... your program crashed

Bug #2
can't see well what is written
http://i53.tinypic.com/6iz5zc.png

rh300487
08-03-2011, 10:22 PM
2 more things:

1) Notecaddy
I wil link this to the notecady topic as well but the NoteCaddy popup designer in the HUD CONFIG doesnt get saved if I restart HEM.

Also the programed NoteCaddy popup doesnt work/show in the HUD when I over the targetted stats.

For example stats A, should show X notes from the notedcaddy popup.
I created a popup menu, then added the X notes into the popup and targetted stat A with the pop up. However, nothing shows?..

I hope i explained it well.


EDIT:
Just did a quick test and I imported these notes but nothing shows. And I tried the already predone notes and nothing is a problem. They all seem to work and show and stay programmed after I restart it... So there must be a problem with the imported notes. WIll go to bed now but check later.


2) Stability
This version crashes all the time..

udbrky
08-04-2011, 01:59 AM
Please report all crash reports, or post with the log file.

Where is my log file?
7: C:\Users\{username}\AppData\Roaming\HoldemManager\

Showing hidden files: How to show hidden files in Windows 7 (http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial151.html)

XP: c:\documents and settings\{username}\appdata\HoldemManager

Showing hidden files: Microsoft Corporation (http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/win_fcab_show_file_extensions.mspx?mfr=true)



What about change the note font based on sample size? So if we have 1000 spots where villain is doing everytime the exact same thing the note could be automatically change to bold


Ah, bug report #1:
I was on your app, and I was creating a note when I right clicked and then clicked seek... your program crashed

Bug #2
can't see well what is written
http://i53.tinypic.com/6iz5zc.png

johncc
08-04-2011, 05:09 AM
I agree that NC notes vanish when HEM is closed and re started

johncc
08-04-2011, 05:37 AM
Stat explanation please

PF When limps is strong [] (0/3 0%)

how can this be as he has never limped, unless i have misinterpreted what it says

shahrad
08-04-2011, 08:06 AM
Stat explanation please

PF When limps is strong [] (0/3 0%)

how can this be as he has never limped, unless i have misinterpreted what it says

3/3 = limps strong
0/3 = limps weak

He did limp 3 times but never strong, 0/3= from 3 times when he did limp, he did have 0 times a strong hand. If you checked in your database and did notice that the guy did never limp, than there is something wrong with the definition.

johncc
08-04-2011, 08:12 AM
3/3 = limps strong
0/3 = limps weak

He did limp 3 times but never strong, 0/3= from 3 times when he did limp, he did have 0 times a strong hand. If you checked in your database and did notice that the guy did never limp, than there is something wrong with the definition.

Even more confused as you say he wasn't strong yet the info we are given says Limps when strong

shahrad
08-04-2011, 09:11 AM
Even more confused as you say he wasn't strong yet the info we are given says Limps when strong Than just rename the definition to: Does he limp strong? And when you see the information 0%, you will know the answer is: 'NO', when you see 50% than your answer is: 'sometimes' and when you see 100%, than your answer is: He always limps strong. The original Name (limps strong) doesn't contain the info true or false, the stat contains the info. The stat tells us if 'strong' is true or false.

johncc
08-04-2011, 09:19 AM
My brain hurts, so limps when strong doesn't mean (he limps when strong)................

lots of players will be more confused than me for sure.

shahrad
08-04-2011, 09:21 AM
They should have never played poker in the first place. At least not for a living.
Limps when strong is designated to show you where you can find the information. As said it doesn't tell you if 'limps strong' is true or false.
Look: In the Hud if you use the abbreviation Continuation bets, it doesn't tell you if he really Cbets, you still need the stat, to see if he cbets or not and/or how often he cbets.

BlackSaphire
08-04-2011, 11:00 AM
HEM2, Build 4815.
NoteCaddy gets the BBs always wrong, even though the BBs Stat is now ok in HEM and the level is read correctly.

Whenever I have a hand that goes to showdown is always "... w 1-5 BB...".

Attached 1 Screen and the exported HH.

http://www.the-last-aerie.com/Rep1.jpg

http://www.the-last-aerie.com/HH.zip

fiammaz
08-04-2011, 11:42 AM
I want to make a note...
Hero completes the SB and Villain checks BB, on the flop Villain checks Hero bets Villain folds...
I tried but seems NC found only my hands...
I'm posting a screenshot about my note, plz tell me what I'm doing wrong

ImageShack&#174; - Online Photo and Video Hosting (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/814/limpstab.png/)

udbrky
08-04-2011, 06:10 PM
sreticentv, I don't get this, is there anything you can think of that could cause this?


.....
Lastly, my Note Caddy notes seem to be showing in duplicate.

Thank you.

rh300487
08-04-2011, 06:20 PM
in HUD config i go to NC Popup, add some new imported from my old NC notes to a new custom POPUP. Then the problem is:

1) It doesnt show in the HUD when i hover over the stat.
2) When i close HEM2, the NC popup isnt saved and I have to reput it. (then see point 1..)

sreticentv
08-04-2011, 08:48 PM
2 more things:

1) Notecaddy
I wil link this to the notecady topic as well but the NoteCaddy popup designer in the HUD CONFIG doesnt get saved if I restart HEM.



confirmed. Will fix tomorrow


Stat explanation please

PF When limps is strong [] (0/3 0%)

how can this be as he has never limped, unless i have misinterpreted what it says

limps: 0 when strong: 3

was strong 3 times, limped 0

The HM2 definitions just say limped (position) and then the card range and you can quickly determine if their range is strong or not so that ambiguity should be gone


HEM2, Build 4815.
NoteCaddy gets the BBs always wrong, even though the BBs Stat is now ok in HEM and the level is read correctly.

Whenever I have a hand that goes to showdown is always "... w 1-5 BB...".

Attached 1 Screen and the exported HH.

http://www.the-last-aerie.com/Rep1.jpg

http://www.the-last-aerie.com/HH.zip

thank you for the details. I'll fix this tomorrow.


I want to make a note...
Hero completes the SB and Villain checks BB, on the flop Villain checks Hero bets Villain folds...
I tried but seems NC found only my hands...
I'm posting a screenshot about my note, plz tell me what I'm doing wrong

ImageShack® - Online Photo and Video Hosting (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/814/limpstab.png/)

please attach a hand history that should be valid and the definition's xml file. NC definitions are located in the same place as your HM2 preferences under the folder "notecaddydefinitions"


sreticentv, I don't get this, is there anything you can think of that could cause this?

an old version was reprocessing notes from the beginning. I can't reproduce it in the current version. Please request a reprocess


in HUD config i go to NC Popup, add some new imported from my old NC notes to a new custom POPUP. Then the problem is:

1) It doesnt show in the HUD when i hover over the stat.
2) When i close HEM2, the NC popup isnt saved and I have to reput it. (then see point 1..)

confirmed, please see my reply at the top of this post

BlackSaphire
08-05-2011, 03:39 AM
thank you for the details. I'll fix this tomorrow.
I just noticed the "slight" problem reading BBs from HEM2 ;)

BTW, will the fix be included in next HEM2 Build or do I have to look for it elsewhere?
Tx

fiammaz
08-05-2011, 07:25 AM
please attach a hand history that should be valid and the definition's xml file. NC definitions are located in the same place as your HM2 preferences under the folder "notecaddydefinitions"


I'm embaressed but I can't find the directory...
Can you plz tell me the default directory in win 7?

threegoldstars
08-05-2011, 11:01 AM
Yes, 4815.

Yes, I have abbreviations listed in the text box.

Cancel the note icon problem.

Yes, the notes show up twice in the note caddy section, but only once (as expected) in the hand viewer section.

I am thinking the note caddy note duplication might be because when I import my hands from my HM1 DB (still my primary analysis and reporting tool), I have "import notes" checked. Thus, the HM2 note caddy might be creating notes and then I might be importing the same notes...hence the duplication. Just a thought.

sreticentv
08-05-2011, 08:05 PM
I'm embaressed but I can't find the directory...
Can you plz tell me the default directory in win 7?

C:\Users\YourUserName\AppData\Roaming\HoldemManage r\NoteCaddyDefinitions


I just noticed the "slight" problem reading BBs from HEM2 ;)

BTW, will the fix be included in next HEM2 Build or do I have to look for it elsewhere?
Tx

will be fixed in the next version


2 more things:

1) Notecaddy
I wil link this to the notecady topic as well but the NoteCaddy popup designer in the HUD CONFIG doesnt get saved if I restart HEM.

Also the programed NoteCaddy popup doesnt work/show in the HUD when I over the targetted stats.

For example stats A, should show X notes from the notedcaddy popup.
I created a popup menu, then added the X notes into the popup and targetted stat A with the pop up. However, nothing shows?..

I hope i explained it well.



will be fixed in the next build




Also, new feature

SNGWizCaddy

There is a new option - Define Opportunities by SNGWiz®

Useful for sit and go tournaments, you can query SNG wizard to see how often enemies make correct calls and shoves when short stacked.

SNG wizard is the gold standard software for winning SNG players to train but now you can use it alongside NoteCaddy to determine how well your opponents play

Here are two definitions that cover push and call:

19501
19511

tip: add them to your hud to make a neat stat!

They won't work until the next hm2 release though

rh300487
08-06-2011, 08:46 AM
Downloaded the next build but the NC issue i mentioned before is still the same. It doesnt save the custom stat in the custom popup :(

sreticentv
08-06-2011, 09:23 AM
the changes from late yesterday are not yet in the latest release

gunner109
08-08-2011, 06:51 AM
Went thru 5 pages of post to find out if note cady cost anything. And none of the videos work in op post any way to see them.

pmania
08-08-2011, 10:11 AM
Hello when I use Click for popup option in General Settings->Config Properties->HUD Options, how do I access or see the notecaddy notes ?

I think this perhaps needs to be changed that you can still hover over the notecaddy icon to see notecaddy notes!

sreticentv
08-08-2011, 05:34 PM
Went thru 5 pages of post to find out if note cady cost anything. And none of the videos work in op post any way to see them.

you may need to update your media player as those videos have been linked for a few months now and this is the first report of them not working. I just tried one and it was ok for me. All the videos also have flash version which are linked from the software itself. NoteCaddy will have a free version and a pro version - which will cost $50 for holdem or omaha / $80 for both. The free version will give you 2-3 notes only and pro is unlimited


Hello when I use Click for popup option in General Settings->Config Properties->HUD Options, how do I access or see the notecaddy notes ?

I think this perhaps needs to be changed that you can still hover over the notecaddy icon to see notecaddy notes!

you need to make sure NC is enabled in the hud options. I recommend you watch this video http://www.assaultware.com/videos/intro_hem2.wmv which shows how to do many of the NC functions

johncc
08-08-2011, 05:38 PM
Thanks for the reply, but if u have click to pop up set, NC doesn't work/show

gunner109
08-09-2011, 12:41 AM
[QUOTE=sreticentv;541031]you may need to update your media player as those videos have been linked for a few months now and this is the first report of them not working. I just tried one and it was ok for me. All the videos also have flash version which are linked from the software itself. NoteCaddy will have a free version and a pro version - which will cost $50 for holdem or omaha / $80 for both. The free version will give you 2-3 notes only and pro is unlimited


When i click on links i get Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage.

fiammaz
08-09-2011, 10:02 AM
I want to make a note...
Hero completes the SB and Villain checks BB, on the flop Villain checks Hero bets Villain folds...
I tried but seems NC found only my hands...
I'm posting a screenshot about my note, plz tell me what I'm doing wrong

ImageShack® - Online Photo and Video Hosting (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/814/limpstab.png/)


I uploaded the file so you can check it

Ollives
08-09-2011, 11:21 AM
Dont know if this was posted before but I have a small problem with Caddy Report (in HM2 build 4854)...
Each time I start a session the Caddy Report start although I unclicked the box "Start Caddy Report on HUD Launch" in my HUD config...Whatevever I do the report starts...Bug? Any solution?
Thanks for your help!

BlackSaphire
08-09-2011, 11:36 AM
With last update NoteCaddy stopped taking new notes on iPoker, even though it reads every hand correctly.

SS-24
08-09-2011, 11:55 AM
With last update 2.0.0.4854 NoteCaddy stopped taking new notes on PokerStars.
20021

gunner109
08-09-2011, 12:48 PM
Same on everleaf-minted.

sreticentv
08-09-2011, 01:41 PM
sorry about that I just requested a new build - should be fixed then

Aviat0r71
08-09-2011, 03:44 PM
Same too with merge

johncc
08-09-2011, 05:22 PM
without using quotes etc, doe

was 3bet by hero JJ mean villain or hero had JJ?

Locketto
08-09-2011, 07:40 PM
me too on ps.it

sreticentv
08-10-2011, 07:05 AM
new build is up and notes should be processing again


without using quotes etc, doe

was 3bet by hero JJ mean villain or hero had JJ?

if you click the little play button next to each note then it should show the hand(s) that generated it and that should answer most of your questions about what they mean

johncc
08-10-2011, 07:43 AM
New build .4859 setting / launch caddy report, not working

johncc
08-10-2011, 07:45 AM
if you click the little play button next to each note then it should show the hand(s) that generated it and that should answer most of your questions about what they mean

All well and good, but probably wont find the hand, so does it mean the villain had JJ or the hero??

sreticentv
08-10-2011, 07:46 AM
hero

johncc
08-10-2011, 07:53 AM
ty

Ollives
08-10-2011, 10:59 AM
Dont know if this was posted before but I have a small problem with Caddy Report (in HM2 build 4854)...
Each time I start a session the Caddy Report start although I unclicked the box "Start Caddy Report on HUD Launch" in my HUD config...Whatevever I do the report starts...Bug? Any solution?
Thanks for your help!

Build 4859 : Bug still here.

johncc
08-10-2011, 02:25 PM
NLHE and Omaha Notes still get both when playing Omaha

Alveriine
08-10-2011, 04:11 PM
Im having some perfomance problems with notecaddy. I have 4gb ram DDR III, Phenom II X4, 2 RAID 0 60gb SSD drives, running a 1.2m database. The hand importing was doink ok, 120h/s, but after that I tried to enable notecaddy and its taking 10h/s to create notes. Is that standard? Im having several perfomance troubles playing few tables at pokerstars while doing this, altough the cpu % for hm is 25-35% using 1.5GB to 2GB memmory, and rest is pretty much idle. Tried to set to 4 threads, not much improvement. I also get NullpointerException sometimes when I try to use something, and viewing reports, graphs and replayers is laggy. Im using postgres 9.0, recently installed windows 7 64bit from scratch and imported all hands.

I'm willing to help, if you guys still arent aware of those problems, I will cooperate to find where the problem is. With so many problems, HM2 still looks amazing and very promising. Good luck at developing!

Thanks

sreticentv
08-10-2011, 07:28 PM
Im having some perfomance problems with notecaddy. I have 4gb ram DDR III, Phenom II X4, 2 RAID 0 60gb SSD drives, running a 1.2m database. The hand importing was doink ok, 120h/s, but after that I tried to enable notecaddy and its taking 10h/s to create notes. Is that standard? Im having several perfomance troubles playing few tables at pokerstars while doing this, altough the cpu % for hm is 25-35% using 1.5GB to 2GB memmory, and rest is pretty much idle. Tried to set to 4 threads, not much improvement. I also get NullpointerException sometimes when I try to use something, and viewing reports, graphs and replayers is laggy. Im using postgres 9.0, recently installed windows 7 64bit from scratch and imported all hands.

I'm willing to help, if you guys still arent aware of those problems, I will cooperate to find where the problem is. With so many problems, HM2 still looks amazing and very promising. Good luck at developing!

Thanks

it sounds like you're having slow note creation and performance issues in hem but I don't understand if these are related.

Do you get




I also get NullpointerException sometimes when I try to use something, and viewing reports, graphs and replayers is laggy


if notecaddy is disabled in hud options?

fiammaz
08-10-2011, 08:05 PM
Sreticentv can you check this plz?

http://forums.holdemmanager.com/general-support/86341-official-notecaddy-hm-app-thread-20.html#post542671

sreticentv
08-10-2011, 08:30 PM
I want to make a note...
Hero completes the SB and Villain checks BB, on the flop Villain checks Hero bets Villain folds...
I tried but seems NC found only my hands...
I'm posting a screenshot about my note, plz tell me what I'm doing wrong

ImageShack® - Online Photo and Video Hosting (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/814/limpstab.png/)

I was super busy so I didn't have time to read this carefully but I think this scenario is impossible...

if you are SB and villain is BB then he can't check and you bet because you're first to act unless you're thinking betting the turn?

fiammaz
08-10-2011, 08:31 PM
I was super busy so I didn't have time to read this carefully but I think this scenario is impossible...

if you are SB and villain is BB then he can't check and you bet because you're first to act unless you're thinking betting the turn?


We are playing HU tables

sreticentv
08-10-2011, 08:43 PM
I am looking at heads up hands and it seems the BB acts first so I'm still not sure how it is possible. I did put what you described in a definition though:

20361

if that doesn't work then please attach some hands where this is supposed to apply so I can better understand

fiammaz
08-10-2011, 09:02 PM
I am looking at heads up hands and it seems the BB acts first so I'm still not sure how it is possible. I did put what you described in a definition though:

20361

if that doesn't work then please attach some hands where this is supposed to apply so I can better understand

Ok notecaddy added 0 notes :(

anyway

this is the example HH

PokerStars Game #54539343484: Tournament #343605068, €92.80+€7.20 EUR Hold'em No Limit - Match Round I, Level IV (50/100) - 2010/12/19 21:02:13 ET
Table '343605068 1' 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Claudiosv (1180 in chips)
Seat 2: DonkSummoner (1820 in chips)
DonkSummoner: posts small blind 50
Claudiosv: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DonkSummoner [7c 8h]
DonkSummoner: calls 50
Claudiosv: checks
*** FLOP *** [3d Ah Jh]
Claudiosv: checks
DonkSummoner: bets 100
Claudiosv: folds
Uncalled bet (100) returned to DonkSummoner
DonkSummoner collected 200 from pot
DonkSummoner: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 200 | Rake 0
Board [3d Ah Jh]
Seat 1: Claudiosv (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: DonkSummoner (button) (small blind) collected (200)

Hand #22409

sreticentv
08-11-2011, 07:32 AM
I get "success" in the test environment when I paste that hand. Did you try it there? Also, did you try a "seek" on that new definition?

08-15am
08-11-2011, 12:08 PM
How do I write a color coding rule for losing players. If i put a - in front of the BB values it does not seem to work.
I put -500 in the minimum and -0.5 in the maximum and sample size 20.

shouldnt this work?

johncc
08-11-2011, 04:50 PM
Back to was 3bet by hero for this villain it says A5 n AQ however no 3bet happened

he raise and they all folded

In fact going through a few NC pop ups that says was 3bet by hero NO 3bet happened......

sreticentv
08-11-2011, 05:23 PM
How do I write a color coding rule for losing players. If i put a - in front of the BB values it does not seem to work.
I put -500 in the minimum and -0.5 in the maximum and sample size 20.

shouldnt this work?

looks like the VPIP sample size doesn't work for the hm2 schema. I will fix this asap - thx for the info. If you remove the sample size it would work for now - I know much less useful without sample...


Back to was 3bet by hero for this villain it says A5 n AQ however no 3bet happened

he raise and they all folded

In fact going through a few NC pop ups that says was 3bet by hero NO 3bet happened......

the replayer shows all opportunities to three bet and doesn't distinguish whether it actually happened or not which isn't ok. I meant to change the color of the dots on the bottom to green = 3 bet happened, red = no 3 bet happened but I forgot - thx for the reminder.

08-15am
08-11-2011, 05:51 PM
it is working fine for winning and for 3b but its not for losing players.

how do i put in a negative winrate so that it works ?!

fiammaz
08-11-2011, 10:06 PM
I get "success" in the test environment when I paste that hand. Did you try it there? Also, did you try a "seek" on that new definition?

Yep, NC founds only note about me

johncc
08-12-2011, 06:20 AM
NC now duplicates some notes, for instance

PF defends bb [kq-2] (2) is on a lot of notes twice, exactly the same

johncc
08-12-2011, 07:07 AM
Can't figure these out as i dont understand the definitions

Call open shove 0_6_3 10_12_2

etc etc, could someone explain please

sreticentv
08-12-2011, 07:23 AM
it is working fine for winning and for 3b but its not for losing players.

how do i put in a negative winrate so that it works ?!

20641
20651

works for me...


Yep, NC founds only note about me



I want to make a note...
Hero completes the SB


you wrote hero in the description there which is why only notes about you are found. You can go to pre flop->previous actions->and remove "action had to be performed by hero"


NC now duplicates some notes, for instance

PF defends bb [kq-2] (2) is on a lot of notes twice, exactly the same

I will look into it


Can't figure these out as i dont understand the definitions

Call open shove 0_6_3 10_12_2

etc etc, could someone explain please

http://assaultwareforums.com/showthread.php?317-ESSENTIAL-definitions-for-any-TOURNAMENT-player-for-more-informed-push-fold-play

johncc
08-12-2011, 07:36 AM
whilst i admit i only had a quick look at the link, it still doesnt say what

0_6_3 etc actually means or the other numbers

or is it 0-6 =bb and the last figure to group them together?

sreticentv
08-12-2011, 08:11 AM
from the link


the first 2 numbers represent the effective bb's such as 10-12 and the last number is there i believe for note ordering purposes so that all hands in which a player called for instance the Cut Off will stay grouped together and in order of table position.

johncc
08-12-2011, 11:22 AM
TY for that, next question this is what someone is calling with, is there a deinition to see what people are shoving with x amount of bb's, not bothered about position as its fairly irrelavant IMO, MTT's mainly

johncc
08-12-2011, 03:24 PM
I know i ask a lot, its because i want to learn so back to call open shove 0_6_1

so u called someone who had 0-6bb i cant see where this is written

08-15am
08-13-2011, 07:21 AM
Thanks for the help with the color coding definition. Now it works also for losing players.
Nevertheless it does not work for pokerstars. within HMII notecaddy does the color coding, but when i open stars, no players are labeled although i have hands on the player :(

i set the directory to c:\users\Andi\AppData\Local\PokerStars\notes.08-15am.xml
i run windows 7 ultimate 64.
please help me!

MichaelK
08-13-2011, 10:12 AM
Hi!

NC do not produce notes for my new made definitions since yesterday.
I make some changes to note definitions then save and produce them and no new notes are made (but "seek" is working for definotions).

russb
08-13-2011, 11:52 AM
NC does not seem to be working anywhere in HM except on the replayer. For instance if I go to the opponents tab, select a player, and then go to the stat analysis/notes subtab nothing is shown under notecaddy. Its not a filtering issue since all his stats are showing up and big hands / line analysis subtabs both work fine, its just the notecaddy window that displays nothing.

Again, I have enabled notecaddy and it works fine in the replayer just not within HEM.

sreticentv
08-14-2011, 07:23 AM
TY for that, next question this is what someone is calling with, is there a deinition to see what people are shoving with x amount of bb's, not bothered about position as its fairly irrelavant IMO, MTT's mainly

there aren't any publically available but you could easily modify the included ones to ignore position and have exactly what you're looking for


I know i ask a lot, its because i want to learn so back to call open shove 0_6_1

so u called someone who had 0-6bb i cant see where this is written

it's in the op of the thread I linked to

[PF] Push [6m][UnderTheGun][6-8 BB] {KJ,J9,J8}(3)


Thanks for the help with the color coding definition. Now it works also for losing players.
Nevertheless it does not work for pokerstars. within HMII notecaddy does the color coding, but when i open stars, no players are labeled although i have hands on the player :(

i set the directory to c:\users\Andi\AppData\Local\PokerStars\notes.08-15am.xml
i run windows 7 ultimate 64.
please help me!

you may need to wait until the next hm2 release as there were some problems with color coding that could have found their way into the build. Also make sure you give custom color defs higher priority than the defaults


Hi!

NC do not produce notes for my new made definitions since yesterday.
I make some changes to note definitions then save and produce them and no new notes are made (but "seek" is working for definotions).

are you running the pending task? Does it show hands processing? Please be more specific about what steps you took after modifying the definition


NC does not seem to be working anywhere in HM except on the replayer. For instance if I go to the opponents tab, select a player, and then go to the stat analysis/notes subtab nothing is shown under notecaddy. Its not a filtering issue since all his stats are showing up and big hands / line analysis subtabs both work fine, its just the notecaddy window that displays nothing.

Again, I have enabled notecaddy and it works fine in the replayer just not within HEM.

thx for the info. Apparently someone just removed it from everywhere else LOL. Should be back in the next build though

MichaelK
08-14-2011, 09:16 AM
Hi!

NC do not produce notes for my new made definitions since yesterday.
I make some changes to note definitions then save and produce them and no new notes are made (but "seek" is working for definotions).

are you running the pending task? Does it show hands processing? Please be more specific about what steps you took after modifying the definition



Yes I run pending task. It's said all hands processed and notes added: 0.
After modifying the definition I saved them then went to pending tasks and pressed "proceed" button.

iggy
08-14-2011, 01:13 PM
I was wondering how you could reset your note definitions to the default.

sreticentv
08-14-2011, 01:32 PM
Yes I run pending task. It's said all hands processed and notes added: 0.
After modifying the definition I saved them then went to pending tasks and pressed "proceed" button.

I will try to replicate this. Does the modified note get added if you do file->reset notes, and then process again?


I was wondering how you could reset your note definitions to the default.

Not any clean way to do this but you can open:
-close hm2
-open folder C:\Users\YourWindowsLogin\AppData\Roaming\HoldemMa nager\NoteCaddyDefinitions
-delete all files from there
-open hm2
-once NC tries to create notes it will see it has no defs and grab them again from the server

fiammaz
08-14-2011, 07:41 PM
you wrote hero in the description there which is why only notes about you are found. You can go to pre flop->previous actions->and remove "action had to be performed by hero"
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It is unselected by default....

johncc
08-15-2011, 05:50 AM
If i just have session stats displayed does NC only show for the session or for all actions?

sreticentv
08-15-2011, 08:07 AM
It is unselected by default....

I was referring to the version I made. I made the change myself 21071

If there is a hand that doesn't get a note but should please post it here


If i just have session stats displayed does NC only show for the session or for all actions?

Session stats is just for HUD stats. NoteCaddy doesn't pay attention to this so it will show notes for all actions

MachtiSonni
08-16-2011, 04:54 AM
Hey there,

I've got some pretty sick NC-definitions (such as two different kinds of VPIPs and PFRs that take a lot of space) I'm getting like 2 notes/hand on average. So I decided to start an overnight note-run of about 550k SNG hands. By morning the processing speed had dropped from ~70 HPS to about 7 hands per second. HEM had started using more than 1GB of RAM. I restarted HEM and my computer and kept running through the process. Now...an hour into the process HEM is using 600MBytes of RAM again and the process is getting slower.

-MachtiSonni

Changer
08-16-2011, 05:40 AM
As an experiment I am trying to make a foldto3bet definition that can easily be verified with HM stats. I watched all the videos, but I must still be doing something wrong. Whenever I try to seek, the definition does not find any hands. Before when I left all game types selected, it did find some hands, but they were only from tournaments. I want this to be specifically for cash games. I have tried many different combinations all to no avail. I'm sure I'm missing something here...

Also, even with the same definition and no changes made, sometimes when I seek it does scan hands (but finds nothing). Other times it doesn't seem to even scan, just completes right away.

My two most recent attempts:
21201
21211

Ollives
08-16-2011, 08:50 AM
Dont know if this was posted before but I have a small problem with Caddy Report (in HM2 build 4854)...
Each time I start a session the Caddy Report start although I unclicked the box "Start Caddy Report on HUD Launch" in my HUD config...Whatevever I do the report starts...Bug? Any solution?
Thanks for your help!


Build 4859 : Bug still here.

Please sreticentv, could you answer that? Was it fixed?
I couldn't check lately so sorry if the probleme was resolved....

sreticentv
08-16-2011, 08:34 PM
Hey there,

I've got some pretty sick NC-definitions (such as two different kinds of VPIPs and PFRs that take a lot of space) I'm getting like 2 notes/hand on average. So I decided to start an overnight note-run of about 550k SNG hands. By morning the processing speed had dropped from ~70 HPS to about 7 hands per second. HEM had started using more than 1GB of RAM. I restarted HEM and my computer and kept running through the process. Now...an hour into the process HEM is using 600MBytes of RAM again and the process is getting slower.

-MachtiSonni

do you have the "WIZ" definitions? Are you running it with HM2 minimized? If you leave HM running overnight without NoteCaddy processing does it do the memory leak thing? That last one is very important to me as I need to isolate if NC is causing memory leaks


As an experiment I am trying to make a foldto3bet definition that can easily be verified with HM stats. I watched all the videos, but I must still be doing something wrong. Whenever I try to seek, the definition does not find any hands. Before when I left all game types selected, it did find some hands, but they were only from tournaments. I want this to be specifically for cash games. I have tried many different combinations all to no avail. I'm sure I'm missing something here...

Also, even with the same definition and no changes made, sometimes when I seek it does scan hands (but finds nothing). Other times it doesn't seem to even scan, just completes right away.

My two most recent attempts:
21201
21211

this is more likely a problem with seek than your definition. I tested the second one and it worked fine for me. It's probably having some kind of problem keeping a connection to the database. Right now it's kind of suppressing errors and trying again but if something's up it will just sit there so I need to make some change there


Please sreticentv, could you answer that? Was it fixed?
I couldn't check lately so sorry if the probleme was resolved....

it is fixed but I'm not sure if it's in the latest public release yet

Ollives
08-17-2011, 03:46 PM
Thanks a lot for your answer sreticentv :)
I will check as soos as I can...!
Keep up the good work ! :cool:

MyKQ
08-18-2011, 06:21 AM
Hi

I'm testing Notecaddy, and aside from performance issues, I notices that all notes are generated twice.
21571
The Hand Histories are stored only once in the HM2 database.

Great job with this app

sreticentv
08-19-2011, 07:30 AM
Hi

I'm testing Notecaddy, and aside from performance issues, I notices that all notes are generated twice.
21571
The Hand Histories are stored only once in the HM2 database.

Great job with this app

I think this will be fixed in the next release but I will double check. Can you elaborate on the performance problems you're referring to?

Elbeto87
08-20-2011, 07:36 PM
Today Ive installed NoteCaddy and Im having some issues.

After I installed it, while Im running the Wizard Setup, it freezes on the Safe Point in spite of the program autodetect my DDBB and the location of my PS hands. If I cancelled it, when I try to create notes, it freezes again and I have to reset.

HM 1.11.07a
NoteCaddy (the last one on the site)
Windows 7 64bits
.net Framework installed

Best regards,

Elbeto87

TheGRW
08-21-2011, 07:45 AM
Sorry for my english...
I have a NoteCaddy. It sees HM2's database and creates notes for it, but the notes are not visible in the HUD....

UPD: Today it works but works only built-in Caddy. Old Caddy also sees database HM2 and also writes notes but I cant see it. How I can use old caddy with all stats that I need and How it will be works in HM2 release?