Omaha hands needed

[Rvg72]

Please zip up and send any Omaha hands you have from the various sites to support@holdemmanager.net

Like the tourney beta it will be going to the people who donate hands about 1-2 weeks before it gets to everybody else.

Omaha will be an add-on to Holdem Manager but if you decide to purchase it (pricing has not been determined yet) everything will be integrated into "Holdem Manager". So just like you can differentiate between No Limit, Pot Limit and Limit you will now be able to quickly jump between Texas Hold'em and Omaha and in many cases merge both into one report. You will also be able to play both type of games at the same time and the manager and hud will work on both game types.

Roy

[dankej]

Sweet :) Can't wait for this.

Sent you some Bodog and FTP hands.

[GrindUnumb]

Will it be able to support the Stars Mixed 8-Game and extract the hands from the 4 games it supports?

[Rvg72]

Will it be able to support the Stars Mixed 8-Game and extract the hands from the 4 games it supports?

I would expect so - send some samples and we should be able to make it work

Roy

[gingermanny]

Just sent you the files i have, aint many but if i play more omaha i'll be sure to send them.

[luckylucky]

Any particular site/networks you are short of hands for Roy?

[Jaap]

Stoked for PLO support!
Yay!
Last months gotten so fed up with pokerace HUD + PT omaha, especially since coming from HM (NLHE convert). GOGOGO!

[GrindUnumb]

Will the HUD be able keep up in real time? When playing mixed games and it changes from Holdem to Omaha, will it always miss the first hand for the HUD?
Otherwise how else would it know the game changed until the first hand history from that game was written? Is there a way it can detect the first hand of a new game & change HUD to that game?

[Bingo_Babe]

meh I would have had around 600k hands in both tourney and cash at all levels to send if my computer didn't crash :( I'm really really sad about that. I regret not using an external hard drive. Sad times.

[zoom7]

Will the HUD be able keep up in real time? When playing mixed games and it changes from Holdem to Omaha, will it always miss the first hand for the HUD?
Otherwise how else would it know the game changed until the first hand history from that game was written? Is there a way it can detect the first hand of a new game & change HUD to that game?
Should be able to detect that from the window title, at least on FTP.

[Penny_lack]

Sent some O8 histories from PS.

[thegunshow]

Once big zip file of all hands or a preferred size of smaller zip files?

[DarkMagus]

I sent a few. Not a regular Omaha player but I have maybe 10k hands or so of it. I might start playing it more once HEM starts Omaha support though :)

[thegunshow]

Sent about 40k hands. Some PS some FTP.

[jerseys]

Everest and Stars PLO and some PLO8 sent.

[chilin_dude]

Just emailed some betfair PLO hands :)

[jerseys]

I just noticed that HHs exported from PTO are totally different than HH in the program directory for everest. You don't need the files from PTO but the one from program directory, right?

[abscr]

Sent some hands for Pokerstars.

[fnord]

Do you still need these? If so, raw or exported from PTO?

[jerseys]

I think they need raw hands from game folders or those moved to a backup folder by PTO while autoimporting. The exported hands are useless, because PTO changes their format.

[fnord]

I think they need raw hands from game folders or those moved to a backup folder by PTO while autoimporting. The exported hands are useless, because PTO changes their format.

Yeah, but a lot of people may be migrating from PTO and only have exports. (I have both, I think)

[Rvg72]

Yeah, but a lot of people may be migrating from PTO and only have exports. (I have both, I think)

Exports are helpful too - just make sure you let me know that they are exports!

Thanks,

Roy

[Yorkshire Pudding]

Will the Omaha program be added to HEM or will we need to puchase for an extra fee? Thgink I may know the answer but thought I'd ask!!

[Neko]

Man I am excited for Omaha support. Just shipped a bunch of party hand histories.

[TigerPT]

Sent omaha hands from: PokerStars, Full Tilt, Ipoker and Everest.

[forshoar44]

emailed my hh, think i have AP, FT and stars hh in there.

[T0mba]

sended approx 3k omaha hands from PokerStars

[jrgn hell]

sent some LO8 hands from stars

[heggood]

Sweet :) Can't wait for this.

Sent you some Bodog and FTP hands.


Please zip up and send any Omaha hands you have from the various sites to support@holdemmanager.net

Like the tourney beta it will be going to the people who donate hands about 1-2 weeks before it gets to everybody else.

Omaha will be an add-on to Holdem Manager but if you decide to purchase it (pricing has not been determined yet) everything will be integrated into "Holdem Manager". So just like you can differentiate between No Limit, Pot Limit and Limit you will now be able to quickly jump between Texas Hold'em and Omaha and in many cases merge both into one report. You will also be able to play both type of games at the same time and the manager and hud will work on both game types.

Roy


I sent about 100k FullTilt Hands, hopefully they came through, I'm not very familiar with zipping and all, let me know if they didnt and I'll try harder to figure it out, my email said the file was sent successfully.

[no eff eks]

I've got a small PTO database of Omaha hands from AP/UB that I can send if you still need them. Otherwise I am really looking forward to this functionality being added... just please don't make this add-on as expensive as HEM as there are other options out there for PLO trackers (Donkey Tracker, etc) that cost about 1/4 what HEM costs.

[temporaryname]

Sent some hands from Full Tilts new lower limits. PLO, PLO H-L, and NLO H-L.

[golgothor]

Hi rvg,

i posted you some hands of omaha: Party Poker, Pokerstars, Full Tilt, and Everest. As those folders were huge, can you confirm me you received it ?

[Rvg72]

I did get them thanks. I just sent back confirmations to everyone who has donated recently

Thanks,
Roy

[flashwere]

Sent some hands for Pacific, Bodog, Everest, Propaganda(iPoker) and PartyPoker.

[Lok9]

How's the work coming? When might we see a OM alpha/beta?

[PBJaxx]

Shipped some FTP Cap, 6max deep, and HU. If you have any need for stars or UB hhs let me know.

I am really looking forward to the first release!

-PBJaxx

[PBJaxx]

Oh, I can also ship some exports and "processed" files from PTO if they would be helpful.

[LostCause]

I sent you some Bodog HHs.

I am very pleased to see Omaha support being developed.

[PeskyAustrian]

Shipped a bunch of limit 08 hand histories for fulltilt and pokerstars. Good luck on the testing and soforth hope all goes well for you.

[1p0kerboy]

Do you need any Stud hands yet?

[fnord]

Do you need any Stud hands yet?

Awesome!

[Domesticllama]

Are plo8 hands from Pstars still needed?

[MegaDisgruntled]

I sent a ton of stars hands this morning. Please let me know you got them. Thank you.

Les

[fnord]

Are you still on schedule for Beta in <= 2 days?

[AAkekAA_]

I can use HM for PLO...! Both the stats and the hud works, the only problem is that when you review hands only two of the four holecards are visible...

[Mike chops]

Are you still on schedule for Beta in <= 2 days?

That would be optimistic. We have started work on it though.

[heh]

That would be optimistic. We have started work on it though.

Do you still need more hands?

[INSPIRON]

I can use HM for PLO...! Both the stats and the hud works, the only problem is that when you review hands only two of the four holecards are visible...

What site are you importing from / playing at ? What version of HEM?
I play on iPoker and use 1.07.01 and hands are not importing.

[gavz101]

Hi. Sent a load of hands on Pokerstars.

[Rvg72]

Thanks everyone for sending hands - we do have enough now. Today was a pretty big milestone in the Omaha development as we are now importing hands and running reports within HM.

Pretty sure private beta will be ready by Friday night

First screen shot - accessing Omaha is as simple as changing that drop down that I highlighted. You can specify Omaha, Hold'em or Both

http://www.holdemmanager.com/downloads/omaha1.jpg

Roy

[fozzy71]

Sweeet. Big news indeed. I dont play many hands lately, but if you make sure to include me in the beta I will try and suffer through a few k hands of PLOmahaHAHAHA. :D

[LostCause]

That's awesome Roy, great work.

I am looking forward to the Omaha implementation.

[1p0kerboy]

Awesome Roy. HEM has actually inspired me to learn Omaha. :)

[Omahazzz]

Thats Awesome !

been waiting so long for some serious Omaha Tracking ...

Play PLO n omaha8 frequently

Where do i sign up for Private beta ? :)

[Poolside1]

Sweet :) Can't wait for this.

Sent you some Bodog and FTP hands.

im also very excited.

i sent a bunch of FT hands

[fnord]

FRIDAY!! OMGOMGOMGOMGOMG

ummm, I have to go clean up now

[jerseys]

What sites will be supported in private beta?

[d2themfi]

when will the public beta be available?

[DarkMagus]

when will the public beta be available?
a little birdie told me most likely friday

[d2themfi]

a little birdie told me most likely friday

thats a private beta...

[DarkMagus]

my bad

[Rvg72]

Things are coming together really quickly now - played a session on Absolute with hud / manager both working. Going to spend tomorrow making sure the rest of the sites are supported and barring any surprises we'll have the private beta on Friday and public beta likely within about 10 days after that

Roy

[golgothor]

Things are coming together really quickly now - played a session on Absolute with hud / manager both working. Going to spend tomorrow making sure the rest of the sites are supported and barring any surprises we'll have the private beta on Friday and public beta likely within about 10 days after that

Roy

you guys are geniuses if you can make this work for Everest by friday.
I sincerly want to say I love you :-)
When it will work, do you have an idea of how much will cost the plug-in ?
I definitely want to pay to encourage you guys developping such good tools !

[Rvg72]

We are hoping to have every site supported by Friday - if any are missing then they'll be added on the weekend but we're trying to avoid that

We haven't decided on the price yet but you will need a Holdem Manager license - so you can't just purchase the Omaha piece if you are not a HM customer. The Omaha module will be less than the full HM price.

Roy

[golgothor]

We are hoping to have every site supported by Friday - if any are missing then they'll be added on the weekend but we're trying to avoid that

We haven't decided on the price yet but you will need a Holdem Manager license - so you can't just purchase the Omaha piece if you are not a HM customer. The Omaha module will be less than the full HM price.

Roy

I already have 2 license for HEM :)

[Rvg72]

One more screen shot - playing a NL tourney and an Omaha cash game at the same time + HUD hand history view for Omaha

http://www.holdemmanager.com/downloads/omaha2.jpg

[fnord]

Friday starts in 6:20 min EST, I'll be watching my in box! I will focus mainly on 6max and HU PLO on stars and ftp, also, if the games run, PLO8 and maybe even (gasp) LO8.

[Rvg72]

I'm in need of some Ultimate Bet Omaha hands from before they merged. Please send to support@holdemmanager.net

I only need a couple of hand history files

Thanks,
Roy

[INSPIRON]

One more screen shot - playing a NL tourney and an Omaha cash game at the same time + HUD hand history view for Omaha

http://www.holdemmanager.com/downloads/omaha2.jpg

That is nice, but the percentages (in instant hand replayer) do not correspond to the true winning percentages. (NOGOODATPOKR would have Flop 29.5%, Turn 17.5%)

[Rvg72]

That's been fixed ;)

[sc000t]

I found this on the net. I'm not sure what an old UB HH looks like compared to a new one but this might help. Sorry if this clutters up the thread, feel free to delete this if this doesn't work. These are off a forum and I think an original HH with the players name changed to "hero". Should be the correct format though.

Hand #55254580-691 at Mayfield (Pot Limit Omaha)
Started at 17/Jul/08 14:19:07

9to5 is at seat 1 with $87.20.
Hero is at seat 3 with $95.
shadybiiz is at seat 4 with $63.65.
ultimategeek1 is at seat 5 with $50.05.
The button is at seat 1.

Hero posts the small blind of $.50.
shadybiiz posts the big blind of $1.

9to5: -- -- -- --
Hero: Qh Js Kc 4h
shadybiiz: -- -- -- --
ultimategeek1: -- -- -- --

Pre-flop:

ultimategeek1 folds. 9to5 folds. Hero calls.
shadybiiz checks.

Flop (board: 4c Qd Th):

Hero bets $2. shadybiiz raises to $6. Hero
re-raises to $20. shadybiiz re-raises to $62.
Hero calls.

Turn (board: 4c Qd Th 6d):

Hero bets $1. shadybiiz goes all-in for $.65.
Hero is returned $.35 (uncalled).

River (board: 4c Qd Th 6d As):

(no action in this round)




Showdown:

Hero shows Qh Js Kc 4h.
Hero has Js Kc Qd Th As: straight, ace high.
shadybiiz shows 4s 4d Jh 6c.
shadybiiz has 4s 4d 4c Qd As: three fours.
















Hand #54944832-10848 at Mayfield (Pot Limit Omaha)
Started at 14/Jul/08 11:51:14

mrace020707 is at seat 0 with $176.55.
qaz321 is at seat 1 with $175.70.
KK16 is at seat 2 with $97.20.
mamii is at seat 3 with $50.
Hero is at seat 4 with $105.
aziffel is at seat 5 with $33.70.
The button is at seat 4.

aziffel posts the small blind of $.50.
mrace020707 posts the big blind of $1.
mamii posts out of turn for $1.

mrace020707: -- -- -- --
qaz321: -- -- -- --
KK16: -- -- -- --
mamii: -- -- -- --
Hero: Ac 3h 3c As
aziffel: -- -- -- --

Pre-flop:

qaz321 raises to $2. KK16 calls. mamii calls.
Hero re-raises to $11.50. aziffel folds.
mrace020707 folds. qaz321 calls. KK16 calls.
mamii calls.

Flop (board: Jc Ah Ad):

qaz321 checks. KK16 checks. mamii checks. Hero
checks.

Turn (board: Jc Ah Ad 7c):

qaz321 checks. KK16 checks. mamii bets $10. Hero
calls. qaz321 folds. KK16 folds.

River (board: Jc Ah Ad 7c 3d):

mamii goes all-in for $28.50. Hero calls.



Showdown:

mamii shows 2s 6s 6h Js.
mamii has 6s Js Jc Ah Ad: two pair, aces and jacks.
Hero shows Ac 3h 3c As.
Hero has Ac As Jc Ah Ad: four aces.


Hand #54944832-10848 Summary:

$3 is raked from a pot of $124.50.
Hero wins $121.50 with four aces.








Hand #54934292-4031 at Bixby (Pot Limit Omaha)
Started at 10/Jul/08 16:25:51

PkrPitbull50 is at seat 0 with $60.65.
Hero is at seat 1 with $58.30.
REDEYEDSHARK is at seat 2 with $28.75.
NVRBLUFF09 is at seat 3 with $58.25.
txranger2 is at seat 4 with $59.60.
inoUh8yurf8 is at seat 5 with $25.
The button is at seat 0.

Hero posts the small blind of $.25.
REDEYEDSHARK posts the big blind of $.50.
inoUh8yurf8 posts out of turn for $.50.

PkrPitbull50: -- -- -- --
Hero: Js 9c Th Ah
REDEYEDSHARK: -- -- -- --
NVRBLUFF09: -- -- -- --
txranger2: -- -- -- --
inoUh8yurf8: -- -- -- --

Pre-flop:

NVRBLUFF09 folds. txranger2 calls. inoUh8yurf8
checks. PkrPitbull50 raises to $2.75. Hero calls.
REDEYEDSHARK folds. txranger2 calls. inoUh8yurf8
folds.

Flop (board: Qh Tc 8c):

Hero bets $6. txranger2 folds. PkrPitbull50 raises
to $27.25. Hero goes all-in for $55.55.
PkrPitbull50 calls.

Turn (board: Qh Tc 8c Jd):

(no action in this round)


River (board: Qh Tc 8c Jd 7c):

(no action in this round)




Showdown:

Hero shows Js 9c Th Ah.
Hero has Js 9c Qh Tc 8c: straight, queen high.
PkrPitbull50 shows Ac 2s Qd Qc.
PkrPitbull50 has Ac Qc Tc 8c 7c: flush, ace high.


Hand #54934292-4031 Summary:

$3 is raked from a pot of $120.35.
PkrPitbull50 wins $117.35 with flush, ace high.

[Jaap]

waiting... Looking forward!

[Rvg72]

We're just putting in the finishing touches and then need to do a bunch of testing. At the moment all sites except for Crypto are supported. If you have old Crypto Omaha hands please send.

I'm going to estimate that we are about 5 hours away from getting it to the private beta group.

Roy

[DarkMagus]

We're just putting in the finishing touches and then need to do a bunch of testing. At the moment all sites except for Crypto are supported. If you have old Crypto Omaha hands please send.

I'm going to estimate that we are about 5 hours away from getting it to the private beta group.

Roy

awesome, looks like i'll be playing some omaha this weekend :)

[caladin]

All the skins at Crytologic has been moved to other networks!

[Rvg72]

All the skins at Crytologic has been moved to other networks!

Yes, more for importing older hands

[caladin]

Yes, more for importing older hands

OK I see, maybe I can find some.

[Rvg72]

The initial wave of invites has been sent out so check your email + spam folder if you donated hands.

Thanks,

Roy

[jerseys]

Great! Installing it now. Grats on releasing it so quick.

[chilin_dude]

Reimporting everything now.
Looks cool from what I can see. Already found something tho...
I'll try to explain:
I've selected the omaha dropdown from the cash tab and thats fine. I'm on the "overall" report.
At the bottom where you see last 100 hands etc all looks well and good, shows correct outcomes, correct number of cards etc.
I decided to open a hand I went all in postflop to check if the calcs were right equity wise. However upon selecting the HH and selecing "view HH" it shows it as a holdem hand, where I only got dealt 2cards - as did my opponent. The replayer shows it correctly if I play it that way though, but the HH in text format shows as this:

***** Hand History for Game 10181714833 ***** (Full Tilt)
$200.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, January 22, 03:05:07 ET 2009
Table King (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: CLOUDHAND ( $192.15 USD )
Seat 2: crazycoinflip ( $208.15 USD )
Seat 3: AmIbigblind ( $38.00 USD )
Seat 4: MasqueoftheRed ( $205.30 USD )
Seat 5: MudShark1213 ( $26.65 USD )
Seat 6: gdUpfrmthftUp ( $189.50 USD )
crazycoinflip posts small blind [$1.00 USD].
AmIbigblind posts big blind [$2.00 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to crazycoinflip [ 9d 9s ]
MasqueoftheRed folds
MudShark1213 folds
gdUpfrmthftUp folds
CLOUDHAND folds
crazycoinflip raises [$5.00 USD]
AmIbigblind calls [$4.00 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qd, Tc, 2d ]
crazycoinflip bets [$8.00 USD]
AmIbigblind raises [$32.00 USD]
crazycoinflip calls [$24.00 USD]
AmIbigblind shows [Ad, 8c ]
crazycoinflip shows [9d, 9s ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6c ]
** Dealing River ** [ Ah ]
crazycoinflip wins $73.00 USD from main pot

Fwiw I had 9d9sThTs and he had Ad8cJh9c.

Cheers

[Rvg72]

Reimporting everything now.
Looks cool from what I can see. Already found something tho...
I'll try to explain:
I've selected the omaha dropdown from the cash tab and thats fine. I'm on the "overall" report.
At the bottom where you see last 100 hands etc all looks well and good, shows correct outcomes, correct number of cards etc.
I decided to open a hand I went all in postflop to check if the calcs were right equity wise. However upon selecting the HH and selecing "view HH" it shows it as a holdem hand, where I only got dealt 2cards - as did my opponent. The replayer shows it correctly if I play it that way though, but the HH in text format shows as this:

***** Hand History for Game 10181714833 ***** (Full Tilt)
$200.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, January 22, 03:05:07 ET 2009
Table King (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: CLOUDHAND ( $192.15 USD )
Seat 2: crazycoinflip ( $208.15 USD )
Seat 3: AmIbigblind ( $38.00 USD )
Seat 4: MasqueoftheRed ( $205.30 USD )
Seat 5: MudShark1213 ( $26.65 USD )
Seat 6: gdUpfrmthftUp ( $189.50 USD )
crazycoinflip posts small blind [$1.00 USD].
AmIbigblind posts big blind [$2.00 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to crazycoinflip [ 9d 9s ]
MasqueoftheRed folds
MudShark1213 folds
gdUpfrmthftUp folds
CLOUDHAND folds
crazycoinflip raises [$5.00 USD]
AmIbigblind calls [$4.00 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qd, Tc, 2d ]
crazycoinflip bets [$8.00 USD]
AmIbigblind raises [$32.00 USD]
crazycoinflip calls [$24.00 USD]
AmIbigblind shows [Ad, 8c ]
crazycoinflip shows [9d, 9s ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6c ]
** Dealing River ** [ Ah ]
crazycoinflip wins $73.00 USD from main pot

Fwiw I had 9d9sThTs and he had Ad8cJh9c.

Cheers

Yeah, the view selected hand is broken right now although you can replay it still. It's actually on the list of known issues I posted ;)

[jerseys]

I noticed the view last hands issue, but for me it displays only 2 hole cards in the replayer and in the hud last 3 hads window UNLESS i take my hand to showdown. It displays my opponents' showed down hands always correctly. It imports correctly as PLO hands.

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/6393/2holecards.jpg

edit: I updated from 1.06.something h if that matters and I created a new database and didn't import old hands yet - just new while playing.

[chilin_dude]

Bah I'm such a douche, here I was all excited too.

Right a couple of thoughts:

1. Have you changed something about the way hands are importing? Suddenly importing has gone from ~25hps to ~45. Much better, and its not that I'm running less tasks or anything.

Fwiw I've imported roughly 100k hands from betfair, fulltilt and stars and all are displaying correctly.

2. Obviously in the "preflop cards" tab it only lists two card hands so isn't of any point when omaha is selected at the moment (I dont see this listed in the current issues etc).

Everything looks pretty sexy though tbh, including HUD etc.

[jerseys]

For some reason the replayer doesn't want to replay the hands that I take to showdown - it just doesnt open. I can play other hands (but it shows only 2 holecards for me). I tried to replay my showdown hand a couple times and finally got a pop-up alert that said to copy the hand that cause the error:

edit: i cant paste it because it has xml code. I'll send it


Also hollywood poker (ongame) doesn;t import at all.

edit: actually the replayer doesn't work for most of the hands

[jerseys]

Sorry for double post but it's more readable that way.

Ongame started importing after a reboot but the replayer still doesn't work.
Everest still as the probles as in the image i posted
Poker Stars seems to work perfectly!

[Jaap]

Is there something wrong in the equity calculations? There is a quite big difference between holdem manager and PokerEV (but it could be that pokerEV is wrong).

By the way.. It nice... very nice! Works like a charm. Also great that the full tilt mixed games are fully supported.

[Pasinger]

Everest still as the probles as in the image i posted


Same small prob at Everest: only 2 cards in overview and replayer.

Party seems to work perfectly.

In general: VERY VERY good work ! Thank you for your efforts.

[betatester]

I just played a heads-up sit & go, and it appears to have imported correctly, but the tourney is not showing up as completed. This was on PokerStars.

I assume this is where you want us to post problems. If you'd prefer that I e-mail you, just let me know.

Thank you.

Edit: I created a new database and imported again and the tourney is now showing as completed.

[betatester]

Edit: Nevermind, sorry, still learning how this works.

[betatester]

Nevermind, sorry, still learning how this works.

[ffrllc]

1. Have you changed something about the way hands are importing? Suddenly importing has gone from ~25hps to ~45. Much better, and its not that I'm running less tasks or anything.

Everything looks pretty sexy though tbh, including HUD etc.

Same improvement noticed on my end with the import spped. I went from about 20hps to 35hps....NICE JOB GUYS.

[betatester]

BTN Preflop raise is just showing a - for me in a heads-up sit & go vs. someone who raised some, folded some, and limped some. Am I using the wrong stat/misinterpreting what that stat is for?

[ffrllc]

One suggestion:
In the cash games tab > Reports under "Game Type Description" - It would be nice to have (Holdem), (Omaha Hi) or (Omaha 8) listed next to the limits so we can quickly tell which game type we're looking at.


One question:
Is there a way to create a different HUD layout to use for Holdem / Omaha?



Great job so far guys. This "beta" is already awesome and obviously MUCH better then our "other" option to track Omaha hands.

[honesty44]

great altleast PLO support, the cards from the winner doesn't are good in the hand view collumns. I dont see all the cards(4 for omaha) but the 2 cards i see are not always the winning 2 cards.
ev-calcs seem to me good, but i dont have played or uploaded many hands now.
And maybe in the future(the imported for now are the stats/hud)maybe a good idea to make a special tab for plo games(same as cash/mtts)
I will soon try to hi/lo also but for now i am just happy:)

[devZERO]

Found a bug as I tried to post some hand histories. Cashgame -> Hands tab, if you rightclick and watch the handhistory, there are only 2 pockets. But if you rightclick and copy the hh, there are 4 as they should be.

I would prefer in this tab a convert function including villian stats e.g. for 2+2 forum.

[Hanuse]

I like to buy HM now - do I get Omaha for free with it or what do I have to pay?

[jerseys]

I like to buy HM now - do I get Omaha for free with it or what do I have to pay?

Omaha functionallity is still in beta. From what I understand it'll be an add-on for which you'll have to own Hold'em Manager and pay some extra (but less then the price of Hold'em Manager). You won't be (at least for now) able to buy just the Omaha Manager.

[fnord]

So far, everything is working great for me. Eventually, you will probably want to add to the selection tool in Player Preferences, but for right now just one set of big bet options is fine (for me). Looks great so far on 6M PLO on stars and FTP.

[jerseys]

Boss Media converted with HHconverter to Party works perfectly (hud and replayer too).

[LostCause]

So far everything is doing well on Bodog.

No problems as yet.

[fnord]

I think the EV fails with multi way hands. For instance, in this hand:

PokerStars Game #26220528169: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2009/03/21 22:33:29 ET
Table 'Geranium IV' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: hotdemz ($149.55 in chips)
Seat 2: thereaper100 ($251.15 in chips)
Seat 3: fnords ($100 in chips)
Seat 4: erik1331 ($100 in chips)
Seat 5: MattyFlushes ($26.90 in chips)
Seat 6: MarbleArch ($198 in chips)
fnords: posts small blind $0.50
erik1331: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to fnords [6s 4s 5c 7h]
MattyFlushes: raises $2.50 to $3.50
MarbleArch: raises $8.50 to $12
hotdemz: calls $12
thereaper100: folds
fnords: calls $11.50
erik1331: folds
MattyFlushes: raises $14.90 to $26.90 and is all-in
MarbleArch: raises $78.80 to $105.70
hotdemz: raises $43.85 to $149.55 and is all-in
fnords: calls $88 and is all-in
MarbleArch: calls $43.85
*** FLOP *** [Ts 3d 3c]
*** TURN *** [Ts 3d 3c] [9h]
*** RIVER *** [Ts 3d 3c 9h] [8h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
MarbleArch: shows [Ah Ad 9d Jd] (two pair, Aces and Threes)
hotdemz: mucks hand
MarbleArch collected $99.10 from side pot-2
fnords: shows [6s 4s 5c 7h] (a straight, Six to Ten)
fnords collected $219.30 from side pot-1
MattyFlushes: mucks hand
fnords collected $105.60 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $427 Main pot $105.60. Side pot-1 $219.30. Side pot-2 $99.10. | Rake $3
Board [Ts 3d 3c 9h 8h]
Seat 1: hotdemz mucked [Qs 2d 9s Qd]
Seat 2: thereaper100 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: fnords (small blind) showed [6s 4s 5c 7h] and won ($324.90) with a straight, Six to Ten
Seat 4: erik1331 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: MattyFlushes mucked [Qc 4h Tc As]
Seat 6: MarbleArch showed [Ah Ad 9d Jd] and won ($99.10) with two pair, Aces and Threes


It is showing (I think) that I should have lost a 0.50 on average, but I have 33% equity against all three players, and almost 40% if I remove the guy I have more chips than and make his cards dead. I won $224.90 on the hand, but my EV diff is -$225.40.

It is weird, because in the replayer, it shows everyone as 25% equity through the hand until the very end, when it shows what looks like the real pf hot and cold equities (or at least pretty close). So it is like it knows the real equities, but uses 25% for everyone when calculating EV. I am not sure what is going on with the other hands, if I get time tomorrow, I will load these into PTO and run PokerEV and look at some individual hands. It looks like the replayer always does the 1/n equity until the end, regardless of players going to showdown.

Also, there is a very minor bug in the table manager. When you open up the replayer, it comes up with 'Replayer' as the table, but you cannot see the check box until you check where it should be. Then you can see the check box fine.

[golgothor]

I think the EV fails with multi way hands. For instance, in this hand:

PokerStars Game #26220528169: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2009/03/21 22:33:29 ET
Table 'Geranium IV' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: hotdemz ($149.55 in chips)
Seat 2: thereaper100 ($251.15 in chips)
Seat 3: fnords ($100 in chips)
Seat 4: erik1331 ($100 in chips)
Seat 5: MattyFlushes ($26.90 in chips)
Seat 6: MarbleArch ($198 in chips)
fnords: posts small blind $0.50
erik1331: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to fnords [6s 4s 5c 7h]
MattyFlushes: raises $2.50 to $3.50
MarbleArch: raises $8.50 to $12
hotdemz: calls $12
thereaper100: folds
fnords: calls $11.50
erik1331: folds
MattyFlushes: raises $14.90 to $26.90 and is all-in
MarbleArch: raises $78.80 to $105.70
hotdemz: raises $43.85 to $149.55 and is all-in
fnords: calls $88 and is all-in
MarbleArch: calls $43.85
*** FLOP *** [Ts 3d 3c]
*** TURN *** [Ts 3d 3c] [9h]
*** RIVER *** [Ts 3d 3c 9h] [8h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
MarbleArch: shows [Ah Ad 9d Jd] (two pair, Aces and Threes)
hotdemz: mucks hand
MarbleArch collected $99.10 from side pot-2
fnords: shows [6s 4s 5c 7h] (a straight, Six to Ten)
fnords collected $219.30 from side pot-1
MattyFlushes: mucks hand
fnords collected $105.60 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $427 Main pot $105.60. Side pot-1 $219.30. Side pot-2 $99.10. | Rake $3
Board [Ts 3d 3c 9h 8h]
Seat 1: hotdemz mucked [Qs 2d 9s Qd]
Seat 2: thereaper100 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: fnords (small blind) showed [6s 4s 5c 7h] and won ($324.90) with a straight, Six to Ten
Seat 4: erik1331 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: MattyFlushes mucked [Qc 4h Tc As]
Seat 6: MarbleArch showed [Ah Ad 9d Jd] and won ($99.10) with two pair, Aces and Threes


It is showing (I think) that I should have lost a 0.50 on average, but I have 33% equity against all three players, and almost 40% if I remove the guy I have more chips than and make his cards dead. I won $224.90 on the hand, but my EV diff is -$225.40.

It is weird, because in the replayer, it shows everyone as 25% equity through the hand until the very end, when it shows what looks like the real pf hot and cold equities (or at least pretty close). So it is like it knows the real equities, but uses 25% for everyone when calculating EV. I am not sure what is going on with the other hands, if I get time tomorrow, I will load these into PTO and run PokerEV and look at some individual hands. It looks like the replayer always does the 1/n equity until the end, regardless of players going to showdown.

Also, there is a very minor bug in the table manager. When you open up the replayer, it comes up with 'Replayer' as the table, but you cannot see the check box until you check where it should be. Then you can see the check box fine.


The problem is the same for NLHE.
We have posted a thread in uservoice, but no one seems to care :-)

[betatester]

For my last heads-up sit & go, it shows the 2nd to last hand and the 3rd to last hand but not the last hand. The last hand is shown in the hand history file. It is a complete hand and I can't see any reason why it wouldn't have imported. I tried selecting the file to import and restarting Auto Import but it's still not showing up.

[betatester]

I have Do not insert any Observed Hand Histories checked but hands from tables that I am observing are being imported into my database.

[Rvg72]

The problem is the same for NLHE.
We have posted a thread in uservoice, but no one seems to care :-)

It's been fixed for NLHE for a while now. We'll look into the Omaha version

Roy

[DarkMagus]

have only imported hands from everest so far but a couple bugs:

- i have used the "Fix EV" function but it doesnt seem to work at all. for preflop hands it shows a positive equity that is not correct. for postflop allins it just shows -100% in the hands view/session view. the EV seems like it might be correct in the graphs view but i can't really verify it.

-"replay hand" seems to only work for hands that both a) went to the river and b) were not all-in. for all other hands the replay just won't even open.

-all hero cards are always shown as just the first two cards.

[betatester]

I just played a heads-up sit & go, and it appears to have imported correctly, but the tourney is not showing up as completed. This was on PokerStars.

I assume this is where you want us to post problems. If you'd prefer that I e-mail you, just let me know.

Thank you.

Edit: I created a new database and imported again and the tourney is now showing as completed.

I again have a tourney listed as Not Finished.

I looked through the Data View tab and quite a few of the tourneys are messed up. Some say I finished 4th (in a 2 player heads-up sit & go), some say I finished 1st out of 4th (again, 2 player heads-up sit &go), some say 0 for the Finish.

5 of the 24 tourneys don't have the Sum checkbox checked.

Every game is listed as Regular Speed even though some were Turbos.

[Rvg72]

We're working on getting an update out Sunday night or Monday. So far we've fixed this:

* (1.08 Private Beta 2 BUG) Fixed issue importing Omaha HORSE hands from Stars
* (1.08 Private Beta 2 BUG) Fixed issue that caused a "PokerGame not in Table" error when running reports
* (1.08 Private Beta 2 BUG) Fixed problem that would occur if you did not have the Stakes or Hole Card columns viewable in Options - Hand View Columns
* (1.08 Private Beta 2 BUG) Fixed issue importing and replaying Everest Omaha hands - only 2 cards for Hero would be imported. Unfortunately to get the real data you will either need to delete and then reimport the hands or start a fresh db
* (1.08 Private Beta 2 BUG) Fixed William Fill date issue
* (1.08 Private Beta 2 BUG) Fixed Stars 8-Game hands for Omaha and Holdem and ignores other game types instead of showing them as errors
* (1.08 Private Beta 2 NEW) Added Omaha import support for Crypto hands
* (1.08 Private Beta 2 NEW) ipoker Super Turbo's now detected as such instead of just plain turbo's
* (1.08 Private Beta 2 BUG) All-in EV Update form did not display properly if you have large fonts
* (1.08 Private Beta 2 BUG) Notes that had no text (just an icon selected) that were exported and then imported would not import correctly
* (1.08 Private Beta 2 BUG) Fixed replayer issue where hands that did not get to Turn or River would not load in replayer
* (1.08 Private Beta 2 BUG) Fixed equity %'s in replayer for Omaha
* (1.08 Private Beta 2 NEW) Using the Options - Update All-in EV option will calculate Omaha preflop equity which is currently ignored due to performance issues. Please note that calculating preflop equity in Omaha is slow!

[jerseys]

We're working on getting an update out Sunday night or Monday. So far we've fixed this:


You guys in HEM team are incredible. Working on this and on tourney support. I don't even want to imagine how many hours of sleep you are getting in the past month.

Oh, and I found a bug :) in the hands viewer at the table in PLO8 it only says who won the high end. Also it would be great if it said what hand he has (i.e. it would say: villain shows A662 / villain wins with three of a kind - sixes).

[thegunshow]

When exporting from PTO, I am missing about 1000 hands from a 20k hand sample. Seems to be spread out pretty evenly across the sample. If I minimize my window to a single month, PTO show 8k hands and HEM show about 7500'ish. Any suggestions how troubleshoot this?

[ffrllc]

* (1.08 Private Beta 2 BUG) Fixed equity %'s in replayer for Omaha
* (1.08 Private Beta 2 NEW) Using the Options - Update All-in EV option will calculate Omaha preflop equity which is currently ignored due to performance issues. Please note that calculating preflop equity in Omaha is slow!

These are big ones for me. You guys are awesome!!!



Is there any way to have a different HUD layout for Holdem / Omaha?

[jerseys]

UB seems to be working perfectly!

[betatester]

The Purge Hands function doesn't seem to work. If I click on Cash, there are checkboxes for different stakes/games, but if I click on Tourney, there is nothing listed in the box to check.

[Rvg72]

We released private beta 2. Going to work on some of the bigger missing items from the list on the download page over the next 2 days

* (1.08 Private Beta 2 BUG) Fixed issue importing Omaha HORSE hands from Stars
* (1.08 Private Beta 2 BUG) Fixed issue that caused a "PokerGame not in Table" error when running reports
* (1.08 Private Beta 2 BUG) Fixed problem that would occur if you did not have the Stakes or Hole Card columns viewable in Options - Hand View Columns
* (1.08 Private Beta 2 BUG) Fixed issue importing and replaying Everest Omaha hands - only 2 cards for Hero would be imported. Unfortunately to get the real data you will either need to delete and then reimport the hands or start a fresh db
* (1.08 Private Beta 2 BUG) Fixed William Fill date issue
* (1.08 Private Beta 2 BUG) Fixed Stars 8-Game hands for Omaha and Holdem and ignores other game types instead of showing them as errors
* (1.08 Private Beta 2 NEW) Added Omaha import support for Crypto hands
* (1.08 Private Beta 2 NEW) ipoker Super Turbo's now detected as such instead of just plain turbo's
* (1.08 Private Beta 2 BUG) All-in EV Update form did not display properly if you have large fonts
* (1.08 Private Beta 2 BUG) Notes that had no text (just an icon selected) that were exported and then imported would not import correctly
* (1.08 Private Beta 2 BUG) Fixed replayer issue where hands that did not get to Turn or River would not load in replayer
* (1.08 Private Beta 2 BUG) Fixed equity %'s in replayer for Omaha
* (1.08 Private Beta 2 NEW) Using the Options - Update All-in EV option will calculate Omaha preflop equity which is currently ignored due to performance issues. Please note that calculating preflop equity in Omaha is slow!
* (1.08 Private Beta 2 NEW) Omaha mucked card and hand history windows indicate the cards for each player's best omaha hand. The board shows the winners' chosen board cards too.
* (1.08 Private Beta 2 NEW) Added games combobox to player prefs to select omaha/o8/he/any games for config selection.

[PBJaxx]

Any chance that hands from capped tables could be classified separately from the uncapped tables? I am specifically requesting for FTP.

From what I can tell now, there is no way to distinguish between the two.

[jerseys]

Everest seems to be working perfectly now.

I found some weid detail in party (and Boss converted to party) with the 3 last pots panel. It says "no bet" under VP. http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/1678/partyweird.jpg

I also found that in table manager it gives weird values for how many people are short on the table http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/821/hudshort.jpg

[jerseys]

had sth weird while playing 2 tables of Hollywood (OnGame) today. Everything seemed to react slowly and whenever I opened a replay or the HEM hand history window or a comment window, the newly opened windows wouldn't react to maouseclick untill i clicked somewhere else and then came back to the opened window. And in the end the HEM hand history window and both hollywood poker tables froze up (HEM itself was still good though). I'm not sure if it's HEM issue, but it didn;t happen i beta 1 (though my comp has beed acting a bit weird lately).

[jerseys]

On some tables on UB the HH window opens very small (with one card) and I can;t resize it. I seems to be random. When you quit and go back to the table it's normal again.
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/9986/smallwindow.jpg

[Pasinger]

On some tables on UB the HH window opens very small (with one card) and I can;t resize it. I seems to be random. When you quit and go back to the table it's normal again.
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/9986/smallwindow.jpg

Not only UB, also on Party,Everest and iPoker. Seems to be a general bug.

HMHUD.EXE of Beta 1 works with Beta2 correct.

[jerseys]

Stats don't load in the replayer for UB. It loads the flieds up, but evey stat is displayed "-" and everyone has 0 hands played there. Works fine for party, everest, ongame and stars.

[DarkMagus]

hey, downloaded the update. it shows all 4 cards now in the hand list and replayer. however, when i right-click in the hand list, and hit "show hand history", it still only shows 2 cards for each hand. also, the replayer doesn't show stats.

this is all everest, btw, i havent really tested it with other sites yet.

[golgothor]

hey, downloaded the update. it shows all 4 cards now in the hand list and replayer. however, when i right-click in the hand list, and hit "show hand history", it still only shows 2 cards for each hand. also, the replayer doesn't show stats.

this is all everest, btw, i havent really tested it with other sites yet.

what stakes do you play at Everest ?

[jerseys]

when i right-click in the hand list, and hit "show hand history", it still only shows 2 cards for each hand.



It's listed at the download page as know issues.

[pmania]

When playing a NL Hold'em tournament on stars it doesn't show my own hands anymore in the history, the history where you can also copy paste to 2+2 etc.

[DarkMagus]

what stakes do you play at Everest ?

im not a regular omaha player, but i was playing 50PL yesterday and 100PL today. my usual game is 200NL 6max holdem.


btw, i'm also getting some weird bug in the instant HH window where for certain hands it only shows one card of my hand, and doesn't show any of the hand history after that. i think this only seems to happen for hands that were all-in at some point, although i'm not sure about that.

[GrindUnumb]

I think the processed Hands should move to separate folders for Holdem & Omaha. I can see that being a pain in the future.

[GrindUnumb]

Interesting, now HORSE imports Holdem & Omaha as the same "Game Type Description" so thats different. Not sure how I feel about that yet. LHE is separated from NLHE, but since these are both limit they are grouped.
What has every else thought of this?

[Rvg72]

Interesting, now HORSE imports Holdem & Omaha as the same "Game Type Description" so thats different. Not sure how I feel about that yet. LHE is separated from NLHE, but since these are both limit they are grouped.
What has every else thought of this?

They are saved separately - just got to update the game type description to include game type and it will be fixed automatically

[GrindUnumb]

They are saved separately - just got to update the game type description to include game type and it will be fixed automatically

I can change the All Games tab. Just an observation that the game is not listed in the Stakes description. Not sure it matters. Actually I can see this getting confusing in Omaha mixed games when it doesn't state if its Omaha Hi or Omaha8. Even in the Replayer.

[GrindUnumb]

Roy,
As far as I can tell the Stars HORSE games & Mixed 8-Games are all importing properly now. All games, all levels look okay as far as I can tell.

Should I post this type of update, in this thread, do you prefer email, maybe a private beta forum?

[fnord]

So far everything is working great. I may try to get in some PLO8 and/or LO8 later this week if I have time. I have played a lot of 6M and HU on both stars and ftp and have not had any real problems to speak of.

[jerseys]

Not only UB, also on Party,Everest and iPoker. Seems to be a general bug.

HMHUD.EXE of Beta 1 works with Beta2 correct.

Confirmed: the small HH window also happens on other sites. But for me, when it happens on everest it's just for a few hands. When it happens on UB at some table then it happens for ALL the hands at that table until you quit.

[praetor]

thanks for the program, its awesome already

Only issue I've encountered is Stats displaying wrongly on SOME stars tables - some are right, some are wrong. I cant find any consistency between the wrong/right tables? I have preferred seat selected and its also in my HM settings

[frankst4r]

when will this betatesting be finished? i cant wait uninstalling that crappy pokertraker shit!

[Ozzinho]

http://s11.directupload.net/images/090324/bszrd7cr.jpg

I played my first session yesterday with HM and it runs very smoothly but I recognize some difference between the popup in the table manager and my refreshed results in HM.
The numbers of the table manager popup seems right to me and I had no filters activated.

[caladin]

How do I become an beta tester?
I just can't wait until the final release :rolleyes:

[GrindUnumb]

http://s11.directupload.net/images/090324/bszrd7cr.jpg

I played my first session yesterday with HM and it runs very smoothly but I recognize some difference between the popup in the table manager and my refreshed results in HM.
The numbers of the table manager popup seems right to me and I had no filters activated.

Nice session!! I am not playing this good or running this good yet. Wanna trade some hands?

[Ozzinho]

Nice heater obv ;)
Honestly, I run like crap these days.

[DarkMagus]

mmmm this update seems to have broken the instant HH for everest holdem as well... for all holdem hands now it just shows one card from hero's hand and ends it there

[fnord]

Weird one. I have a Hud for 6max limit called "6maxlimit" and one I just made for 6max big bet called "6maxbb" for some reason it is using the 6max bb by default on my limit tables.

[Rvg72]

Private Beta 3 is now ready for download

* (1.08 Private Beta 3 NEW) Omaha hands now display properly when using the "View Selected Hand(s)" option when right clicking on the hands view
* (1.08 Private Beta 3 NEW) Trying to use the Preflop tab when Omaha is selected will result in a message saying that Omaha is not available in this tab
* (1.08 Private Beta 3 NEW) HM now stores the preflop hand value for each hand to be used by the Holecards report using "AAKTss" to denote a double suited hand with A,A,K and T. A non double suited hand would look something like "JT62". This only works for newly imported hands.
* (1.08 Private Beta 3 NEW) Holecards report now works in Omaha although only from hands imported in this version or later
* (1.08 Private Beta 3 HUD) Fixed Omaha hands in the HH window
* (1.08 Private Beta 3 HUD) More efficient printing
* (1.08 Private Beta 3 NEW) Added support for old Ultimate Beta Omaha hands
* (1.08 Private Beta 3 BUG) Fixed old UB hand bug where an import error could occur if the player who wins a hand uncontested has "wins" in his playername
* (1.08 Private Beta 3 BUG) Fixed problem in player vs player tab that would make it not show any omaha results. Results are combined for all games at the moment
* (1.08 Private Beta 3 NEW) Added a column for the Game Type (Holdem / Omaha / Omaha O8) to the stakes and winnings reports
* (1.08 Private Beta 3 HUD) Fixed glitch with mucked cards.
* (1.08 Private Beta 3 HUD) Made table finder window bigger.
* (1.08 Private Beta 3 HUD) Added button for bringing up table config options.
* (1.08 Private Beta 3 NEW) Preflop all-in % and equity now calculated for Omaha
* (1.08 Private Beta 3 HUD) Table PFR stat added back in
* (1.08 Private Beta 3 BUG) Fixed bug importing Prima Omaha hands that have been exorted from the GameHistory.dat file
* (1.08 Private Beta 3 BUG) Fixed bug importing Prima Omaha hands from GameHistory.dat
* (1.08 Private Beta 3 BUG) In DBControlPanel.exe if you create a new database and then click on Cancel in the DB name it now cancels instead of showing an error
* (1.08 Private Beta 3 BUG) Fixed bug in DBControlPanel.exe if you say No to the "Do you want HM to restart the service" question it would try to start it anyways
* (1.08 Private Beta 3 BUG) Fixed issue where some Prima tourney hands make no mention of a tourney number and so fail to import and can cause the entire gamehistory.dat to not import. They are now given a tourney number of "0" so that they import but of course the tourney results section will need to be manually edited
* (1.08 Private Beta 3 BUG) Had to remove the Stars 4 man HU tourney auto detection because there is no way to differentiate between a standard HU tourney and a 4 man HU tourney if you get knocked out in the first table. So, in a 4 man tourney if you get knocked out on the first table you will need to edit the position and tourney size manually or import the summary
* (1.08 Private Beta 3 NEW) Players Tab will now filter the stakes as you change the Hold'em / Omaha / Omaha O8 selection to only show stakes matching the game type
* (1.08 Private Beta 3 NEW) Under the help menu there is now an option to show your serial number

Roy

[betatester]

After updating to Private Beta 3 and reimporting, all tourneys are now showing as completed. All heads-up sit & gos that were showing 4th place finishes are now showing 1st or 2nd.

Thank you.

[betatester]

Problem w/ tourneys not showing up as completed is back. If I create a new database and import everything again, they all show up as completed, but if I auto-import while playing, some tourneys aren't showing as completed. I tried importing the archive folders, but that doesn't help.

[Rvg72]

Problem w/ tourneys not showing up as completed is back. If I create a new database and import everything again, they all show up as completed, but if I auto-import while playing, some tourneys aren't showing as completed. I tried importing the archive folders, but that doesn't help.

What site?

[fnord]

Weird one. I have a Hud for 6max limit called "6maxlimit" and one I just made for 6max big bet called "6maxbb" for some reason it is using the 6max bb by default on my limit tables.

This is definitely a problem with the beta. I accidentally installed an older version (on drop down with omaha) and it was working correctly, then I installed the newest beta like I had planned to originally (I had an older patch still on my desktop) and it is back to using the incorrect 6 max layout.

[jerseys]

Do you have an ide how to make preflop tab yet? I was thinking to make 2 drop down menus with cards from ace down to deuce. You would select for example A and A and the Holdem-like grid would show all your AA combinations. You could also have a trird drop down menu so you could see all your JT9 combinations on a one deminsional strip. But I don't know how the siutedness would be shown
You could also just somehow show classes of hands like AAxx hands, big rundowns, Ace-3rundown with lower gap etc.

[Rvg72]

This is definitely a problem with the beta. I accidentally installed an older version (on drop down with omaha) and it was working correctly, then I installed the newest beta like I had planned to originally (I had an older patch still on my desktop) and it is back to using the incorrect 6 max layout.

ok thanks, we'll work this out

[Rvg72]

Do you have an ide how to make preflop tab yet? I was thinking to make 2 drop down menus with cards from ace down to deuce. You would select for example A and A and the Holdem-like grid would show all your AA combinations. You could also have a trird drop down menu so you could see all your JT9 combinations on a one deminsional strip. But I don't know how the siutedness would be shown
You could also just somehow show classes of hands like AAxx hands, big rundowns, Ace-3rundown with lower gap etc.

In the latest private beta I disabled the Preflop tab for Omaha - I don't think it would work properly and it would lose the purpose of the Preflop tab. What I am doing instead is adding a new Omaha Report to the reports section that will classify numerous hands like you had mentioned. So there might be 20 rows and each one contains holecards of a certain type and then you can add whatever stats you like to go along with that

[PBJaxx]

Any word on distinguishing the limits for cap games from full stack games?

[Michielvv]

Don't know if it's mentioned yet, but the replayer shows the hold'em stats instead of the omaha stats

[fnord]

ok thanks, we'll work this out

It also appears to be doing it with the HUlim and HUNL hud's I have.

[praetor]

Observed hands I bought from handhq for Ipoker Omaha are not displaying in the HUD - they seem to have imported correctly but the stats are not being displayed - any idea why this is?

[betatester]

Problem w/ tourneys not showing up as completed is back. If I create a new database and import everything again, they all show up as completed, but if I auto-import while playing, some tourneys aren't showing as completed. I tried importing the archive folders, but that doesn't help.


What site?

PS and FTP. Haven't tried any other sites, but there is definitely the same problem with both PS and FTP.

Thank you.

[blindman]

Is there an ETA for the Public beta?

[Rvg72]

Is there an ETA for the Public beta?

Next week - timing depends on how fast we can wrap up the last few main features and various 1.08 beta relates issues

[ExecDec]

Do you guys still need Omaha hands? Probably not ... but just in case. You probably don't need my hands from Stars (PLO) or AP (FLO8) but I haven't seen much talk about Ongame hands yet. So if you need them, I've got some PLO hands for Ongame.

[marodoren]

Hi!

Is there any chance I can get my hands on this Omaha beta. I was help to beta test HM and was a member of the old forum but switch to PLO just shortly after HM was released. I can help you send hands and beta test Ongame and B2B (Entraction Network). I have a licence of the first HM but don't mind to get a new or a upgrade my old.

[Rvg72]

Hi!

Is there any chance I can get my hands on this Omaha beta. I was help to beta test HM and was a member of the old forum but switch to PLO just shortly after HM was released. I can help you send hands and beta test Ongame and B2B (Entraction Network). I have a licence of the first HM but don't mind to get a new or a upgrade my old.

Public beta will be next week - sorry but nobody else is being added right now


Do you guys still need Omaha hands? Probably not ... but just in case. You probably don't need my hands from Stars (PLO) or AP (FLO8) but I haven't seen much talk about Ongame hands yet. So if you need them, I've got some PLO hands for Ongame.

We are pretty much good. If you notice a file / hand not importing properly or your hi/lo $ winnings seem to be way off then please email hands to support@holdemmanager.net


Problem w/ tourneys not showing up as completed is back. If I create a new database and import everything again, they all show up as completed, but if I auto-import while playing, some tourneys aren't showing as completed. I tried importing the archive folders, but that doesn't help.

Ok, will look back into this. Are you closing HM down mid tourney and relaunching?


Observed hands I bought from handhq for Ipoker Omaha are not displaying in the HUD - they seem to have imported correctly but the stats are not being displayed - any idea why this is?

Please email me some


Don't know if it's mentioned yet, but the replayer shows the hold'em stats instead of the omaha stats

Thanks, will fix EDIT: Fixed - Omaha Hi/Lo hands would replay using Texas Hold'em stats. Omaha Hi seemed to be ok.


Any word on distinguishing the limits for cap games from full stack games?

This will be added - vote on the suggestion site to move it up

Roy

[betatester]

Ok, will look back into this. Are you closing HM down mid tourney and relaunching?

No, never.

[Rvg72]

We're going to put out another update Friday night. Currently these are the changes that have been made (but not released just yet)

* (1.08 Private Beta 4 BUG) Fixed bug importing Absolute Omaha Limit hands
* (1.08 Private Beta 4 NEW) Added support for Entraction Double or Nothing tourneys*
* (1.08 Private Beta 4 BUG) Better support for Entraction tourneys where you start with 1500 chips - previously many of these were not imported properly*
* (1.08 Private Beta 4 NEW) Hand Values for filtering on each street should be importing accurately now but only for hands imported since installing this version
* (1.08 Private Beta 4 BUG) Fixed Party Omaha Hi/Lo Hands. It would register them as Holdem and not include low pot wins
* (1.08 Private Beta 4 BUG) Fixed bug where Omaha Hi/Lo hands that were replayed would use Texas Holdem stats
* (1.08 Private Beta 4 NEW) Added support for ipoker Omaha hands exported from PT2
* (1.08 Private Beta 4 HUD) Fixed config select bug.
* (1.08 Private Beta 4 HUD) Added support for omaha config selection.
* (1.08 Private Beta 4 BUG) Fixed problem where tourney summaries could be ignored in certain situations
* (1.08 Private Beta 4 NEW) If you are running a trial version then a "Get HEM for Free" tab will be visible in the manager. It provides details on how to get a license for Free.

[PeskyAustrian]

Hi thanks for including me in the beta, just got back off holiday a couple of days ago.

A couple of things i've noticed.

Tourney>Results>Stats When using either Player name or Alias the game filter to the right holdem/O8 etc doesn't seem to work in conjunction with reports.

I also had the same problem with incomplete tournaments on stars, full tilt is working fine. This is for HUO8sngs haven't played any full ring or six max ones yet. Fixed them with a manual edit.

One thing i was wondering about was preflop hand analisys how is that going to work? Is the preflop section going to be changed or have some sort of interface akin to PTOs hand categories?

[PeskyAustrian]

I also had the same problem with incomplete tournaments on stars, full tilt is working fine. This is for HUO8sngs haven't played any full ring or six max ones yet. Fixed them with a manual edit.


As a further update for this after playing some more husngs on stars, in the data tab the size comes up as 8 / the table type as 2 / and amount won is missing. Trying to give be as specific as possible :D

The incomplete tournaments isn't something that happens all the time on stars, just sporadicly.

[PeskyAustrian]

Scratch what i said, stars husngs all incomplete, hence the graphing problem

[bl00dy sputum]

when is this looking to be released? is it too late for me to be included in the beta? i just came across this and play PLO cash frequently.

[Rvg72]

As a further update for this after playing some more husngs on stars, in the data tab the size comes up as 8 / the table type as 2 / and amount won is missing. Trying to give be as specific as possible :D

The incomplete tournaments isn't something that happens all the time on stars, just sporadicly.

Could you please send some Stars omaha tourney hand history files to support@holdemmanager.net

[Rvg72]

when is this looking to be released? is it too late for me to be included in the beta? i just came across this and play PLO cash frequently.

We're trying to get a close to final beta for 1.08 on Tuesday that will include beta versi0ns of the Omaha addon and Table Scanner (which will have Omaha support as well)

Roy

[golgothor]

We're trying to get a close to final beta for 1.08 on Tuesday that will include beta versi0ns of the Omaha addon and Table Scanner (which will have Omaha support as well)

Roy

I dont know if the bug has been corrected in the latest beta, but there's still a problem with the Hud-Replayer on Everest.

When you replay a game either with the Hud or the Tracker, you can only view 2 cards if there were no showdowns.

[Rvg72]

I dont know if the bug has been corrected in the latest beta, but there's still a problem with the Hud-Replayer on Everest.

When you replay a game either with the Hud or the Tracker, you can only view 2 cards if there were no showdowns.

This has been fixed although you might need to reimport your everest omaha hands since the first private beta imported them incorrectly and only stored 2 cards.

[golgothor]

This has been fixed although you might need to reimport your everest omaha hands since the first private beta imported them incorrectly and only stored 2 cards.

where can we find the last beta ?
(on the link you sent by mail on the first beta-release ?)

[betatester]

where can we find the last beta ?
(on the link you sent by mail on the first beta-release ?)

Yes, same link. We're on private beta 3 now.

[bl00dy sputum]

sorry to ask again, i really did understand the context of the reply.

so when will the beta version be released to the public? in other words, when will i be able to begin to use it?

[fnord]

sorry to ask again, i really did understand the context of the reply.

so when will the beta version be released to the public? in other words, when will i be able to begin to use it?

Within a week I believe. If not, shortly there after.

[GrindUnumb]

I am curious when you think this will get posted?


We're going to put out another update Friday night. Currently these are the changes that have been made (but not released just yet)

* (1.08 Private Beta 4 BUG) Fixed bug importing Absolute Omaha Limit hands
* (1.08 Private Beta 4 NEW) Added support for Entraction Double or Nothing tourneys*
* (1.08 Private Beta 4 BUG) Better support for Entraction tourneys where you start with 1500 chips - previously many of these were not imported properly*
* (1.08 Private Beta 4 NEW) Hand Values for filtering on each street should be importing accurately now but only for hands imported since installing this version
* (1.08 Private Beta 4 BUG) Fixed Party Omaha Hi/Lo Hands. It would register them as Holdem and not include low pot wins
* (1.08 Private Beta 4 BUG) Fixed bug where Omaha Hi/Lo hands that were replayed would use Texas Holdem stats
* (1.08 Private Beta 4 NEW) Added support for ipoker Omaha hands exported from PT2
* (1.08 Private Beta 4 HUD) Fixed config select bug.
* (1.08 Private Beta 4 HUD) Added support for omaha config selection.
* (1.08 Private Beta 4 BUG) Fixed problem where tourney summaries could be ignored in certain situations
* (1.08 Private Beta 4 NEW) If you are running a trial version then a "Get HEM for Free" tab will be visible in the manager. It provides details on how to get a license for Free.

[Rvg72]

Well I decided to merge the Omaha private beta into the public beta since it is pretty solid especially after the changes from the past 4 or 5 days. Trying for tomorrow (Monday) night but still got quite a bit to get in there

Roy

[bl00dy sputum]

Well I decided to merge the Omaha private beta into the public beta since it is pretty solid especially after the changes from the past 4 or 5 days. Trying for tomorrow (Monday) night but still got quite a bit to get in there

Roy

awesome. i cant wait :)

[Rvg72]

The current fix / addition list has grown as well:

* (1.08 Private Beta 4 BUG) Fixed bug importing Absolute Omaha Limit hands
* (1.08 Private Beta 4 NEW) Added support for Entraction Double or Nothing tourneys*
* (1.08 Private Beta 4 BUG) Better support for Entraction tourneys where you start with 1500 chips - previously many of these were not imported properly*
* (1.08 Private Beta 4 NEW) Hand Values for filtering on each street should be importing accurately now but only for hands imported since installing this version
* (1.08 Private Beta 4 BUG) Fixed Party Omaha Hi/Lo Hands. It would register them as Holdem and not include low pot wins
* (1.08 Private Beta 4 BUG) Fixed bug where Omaha Hi/Lo hands that were replayed would use Texas Holdem stats
* (1.08 Private Beta 4 NEW) Added support for ipoker Omaha hands exported from PT2
* (1.08 Private Beta 4 HUD) Fixed config select bug.
* (1.08 Private Beta 4 HUD) Added support for omaha config selection.
* (1.08 Private Beta 4 BUG) Fixed problem where tourney summaries could be ignored in certain situations
* (1.08 Private Beta 4 NEW) If you are running a trial version then a "Get HEM for Free" tab will be visible in the manager. It provides details on how to get a license for Free.
* (1.08 Private Beta 4 BUG) Fixed ipoker Omaha bug where in the standardized hand history it would show that cards were shown and equal to "xxxx" for unknown cards
* (1.08 Private Beta 4 BUG) Fixed Omaha ev for ties where odd chip awarded
* (1.08 Private Beta 4 BUG) Fixed duplicate lines in Player Prefs stat section for fold vs 3bet
* (1.08 Private Beta 4 BUG) Fixed ongame Omaha problem where if you had a mix of Texas Hold'em and Omaha in the same DB then there would be import issues
* (1.08 Private Beta 4 BUG) Fixed the River Called CBet and River Raised CBet filters that previously would cause an error
* (1.08 Private Beta 4 BUG) Fixed recent bug that would cause Pacific Poker to stop importing
* (1.08 Private Beta 4 NEW) Added full support for the new Pacific client update that now saves hand histories to your computer
* (1.08 Private Beta 4 NEW) Previously there was a limition so that no file could be imported from more than once in 10 seconds - this has been dropped to 5
* (1.08 Private Beta 4 BUG) Fixed bug where filenames longer than about 200 characters for hand history files could cause issues with importing when the file gets moved
* (1.08 Private Beta 4 BUG) Fixed Bodog tourney issue where hands would import in error if no tourney ID was specified under the tournament# line
* (1.08 Private Beta 4 NEW) Added code to better ensure Bodog tourney finishes are tracked
* (1.08 Private Beta 4 NEW) Added code to better ensure Everest tourney finishes are tracked
* (1.08 Private Beta 4 NEW) Tourney Results tab will now use the Game Type dropdown value
* (1.08 Private Beta 4 NEW) Player Summary Popup will now use the Game Type dropdown value
* (1.08 Private Beta 4 NEW) Previously hole cards groupings for Omaha were broken down by Double Suited and Non Double Suited. So, AT87 or AT87ss (ss = double suited). Ace single suited hands now are shown as AT87as which means there is an ace high suited in the holecards. Hands with no suited cards now appear with "o" so T987o would be 4 different suits. Only applies to newly imported hands.
* (1.08 Private Beta 4 NEW) Added Omaha Hole Card Filters allowing you to use rules to select valid hands. So, for example, showing all Ace Suited hands with a maximum 2 gap in the other 3 cards OR double paired hands with the first pair being KK and the second pair being between 33 and 99

Roy

[betatester]

I wanted to replay a hand, so I looked for it in HEM, but couldn't find it. I checked carefully, but it's not there. The hand before it and the hand after it are there. I realized I could be missing more hands, so I checked the players tab. My database is made up of heads-up sit&gos, but there are a bunch of players who have won/lost a number that isn't divisible by 1500.

All tourneys are showing up as completed, but I guess all that means is that I have the last hand of every game?

[honesty44]

i saw yesterday the same. In a holdem sit and go(HU) is played and i doubled vilain from 80 points to 160, then we had a hand we went go allin preflop(i had him dominated) en there came a straight on the board. So it was a split. This hand i was missing also.
maybe there are more hands missing but i cant find/search them.

[Rvg72]

This is a known bug we are working on. Basically if you go into Options - hand View columns and remove Winner Name, Winner Cards, Winner amount the hands will show up and the hands are in the db and count towards all stats / reports etc

It affects split pot hands since the hand does not have a winner and the sub query gets confused.


Roy

[mupoker]

is the public beta released yet? im so excited!

[Rvg72]

Nope, probably another 10-12 hours or so assuming no big snags which I wouldn't expect

Roy

[mupoker]

best of luck rvg!!!! any idea on pricing yet?

[antneye]

best of luck rvg!!!! any idea on pricing yet?

This is key...especially as someone looking to buy for the first time. A high incremental cost over the HE only product could be a deterent.

[bl00dy sputum]

This is key...especially as someone looking to buy for the first time. A high incremental cost over the HE only product could be a deterent.

it wont be too expensive. and if you play tons of omaha cash, reagrdless why wouldnt you buy it?

[golgothor]

don't know if it has been solved, but the Hi/Lo hand of Party are considered Hold'em hands.

[Rvg72]

don't know if it has been solved, but the Hi/Lo hand of Party are considered Hold'em hands.

Yes, fixed in next update

[praetor]

For some reason today its not displaying any of my larger pots and alot of hands are missing - I have no idea why and have no filter set - this applies across a range of sites

[fnord]

HUD does not work in HORSE tournaments, even in the Holdem and O8 rounds.

Edit - looks like there are import errors (at least on the Holdem hands).

[praetor]

For some reason today its not displaying any of my larger pots and alot of hands are missing - I have no idea why and have no filter set - this applies across a range of sites


Anybody on this? the hands are definitely in there because I imported them to PTO, exported them and re imported them to HM and it said they were all duplicate hands - but none of them are showing up. Its like there is some filter set, but I have none turned on?

[betatester]

Anybody on this? the hands are definitely in there because I imported them to PTO, exported them and re imported them to HM and it said they were all duplicate hands - but none of them are showing up. Its like there is some filter set, but I have none turned on?I assume this is due to the known bug. See below.


This is a known bug we are working on. Basically if you go into Options - hand View columns and remove Winner Name, Winner Cards, Winner amount the hands will show up and the hands are in the db and count towards all stats / reports etc

It affects split pot hands since the hand does not have a winner and the sub query gets confused.


Roy

[bl00dy sputum]

public beta released?

[Rvg72]

Not yet - still working on the Hole Card Filtering for Omaha - going to remove this until the next beta because it will take a few more hours otherwise. On the plus side the new Table Scanner has been added and the winnings card problem has been fixed for split pot situations

Another 30 minutes or so

Roy

[caladin]

can't wait, keep up the good work :)

[Snake Doctor]

if this isn't support I don't know what is

I must have checked this thread a 100 times today

[jerseys]

Mansion poker (Ipoker I think) - HUD sees 6max tables as full ring (manager sees them well as far as I can tell)

[Rvg72]

Still doing a bit more testing but should not be much longer

[Rvg72]

Just found a new crashing issue with the table scanner so need a little longer. Sorry, I know a bunch of you are waiting for this right now

[bl00dy sputum]

Just found a new crashing issue with the table scanner so need a little longer. Sorry, I know a bunch of you are waiting for this right now

hey your support is great. thanks. well done

[Rvg72]

http://www.holdemmanager.net/forum/showthread.php?p=43103