PDA

View Full Version : Big Blind Unopened Pot



PCP Poker
02-01-2009, 01:02 PM
I've noticed that I have several hundred hands showing for the Big Blind in an unopened pot. Is this due to people posting dead blinds during the hand and then checking to me and we are the only ones left? Or is this a bug?

PCP Poker
02-01-2009, 01:05 PM
nvm, didn't think of running the replayer to figure it out. It seems these are all hands where the SB completes. Guess that counts as unopened.

skydog
02-07-2009, 06:31 PM
I also found bb being reported as folds and raises in unopened pots. But when I looked at them, the reason is that they are UTG hands, but they are being incorrectly listed as big blind hands in the reports.

The following 4 hands below all are stored in HM as me being in the big blind. Any idea what is going on????

***** Hand History for Game 10487752859 *****
$50.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday, February 07, 12:15:23 ET 2009
Table Tropicana (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: TooScared4u ( $48.50 USD )
Seat 2: monkii ( $60.85 USD )
Seat 3: DoktorMozga ( $50.75 USD )
Seat 4: RunGoot ( $44.75 USD )
Seat 5: Karp_Aces ( $50.00 USD )
Seat 6: synapse300 ( $109.10 USD )
DoktorMozga posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RunGoot [ Th 7s ]
RunGoot folds
Karp_Aces folds
synapse300 calls [$0.50 USD]
TooScared4u folds
DoktorMozga checks
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8d, 3h, 2c ]
DoktorMozga bets [$1.00 USD]
synapse300 raises [$2.00 USD]
DoktorMozga raises [$6.00 USD]
synapse300 calls [$5.00 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4h ]
DoktorMozga checks
synapse300 checks
** Dealing River ** [ As ]
DoktorMozga checks
synapse300 bets [$15.00 USD]
DoktorMozga folds
synapse300 wins $15.00 USD
synapse300 wins $14.25 USD from main pot


***** Hand History for Game 10480173072 *****
$100.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday, February 07, 12:38:13 ET 2009
Table Reba (deep 6) (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Seat 1: parsifals67 ( $100.00 USD )
Seat 2: eldiario ( $72.45 USD )
Seat 3: RunGoot ( $244.85 USD )
Seat 4: Ben_Zonah ( $189.65 USD )
Seat 5: Tomorrow Man ( $206.50 USD )
Seat 6: BeaucoupFish ( $200.00 USD )
eldiario posts big blind [$1.00 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RunGoot [ Tc 6c ]
RunGoot folds
Ben_Zonah raises [$3.00 USD]
Tomorrow Man folds
eldiario calls [$2.00 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9d, As, 7h ]
eldiario bets [$6.00 USD]
Ben_Zonah raises [$24.00 USD]
eldiario folds
Ben_Zonah wins $18.00 USD
Ben_Zonah wins $17.10 USD from main pot


***** Hand History for Game 10479607920 *****
$50.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday, February 07, 12:01:56 ET 2009
Table Tonga (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Seat 1: ryder108 ( $49.50 USD )
Seat 2: Wicket Warrick ( $50.00 USD )
Seat 3: RunGoot ( $50.00 USD )
Seat 4: cashgamer333 ( $17.25 USD )
Seat 5: SqueezyFbaby ( $50.00 USD )
Seat 6: Big Chief ( $17.25 USD )
Wicket Warrick posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RunGoot [ Ah Th ]
RunGoot raises [$1.50 USD]
cashgamer333 folds
SqueezyFbaby folds
Big Chief folds
Wicket Warrick folds
RunGoot wins $1.00 USD
RunGoot wins $1.00 USD from main pot


***** Hand History for Game 10442290659 *****
$50.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, February 05, 12:32:45 ET 2009
Table Alina (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: tice03 ( $157.20 USD )
Seat 2: Towboy1 ( $42.60 USD )
Seat 3: rgroll86 ( $99.80 USD )
Seat 4: RunGoot ( $74.95 USD )
Seat 5: TurnedTheSet ( $67.40 USD )
Seat 6: lolwtfomg ( $50.75 USD )
rgroll86 posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RunGoot [ 6d 9d ]
RunGoot folds
TurnedTheSet folds
lolwtfomg raises [$1.50 USD]
tice03 folds
rgroll86 calls [$1.00 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ad, 9h, 6c ]
rgroll86 checks
lolwtfomg bets [$2.50 USD]
rgroll86 raises [$7.00 USD]
lolwtfomg calls [$4.50 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8c ]
rgroll86 checks
lolwtfomg checks
** Dealing River ** [ 4h ]
rgroll86 bets [$17.00 USD]
lolwtfomg calls [$17.00 USD]
rgroll86 shows [6h, Ah ]
rgroll86 wins $48.45 USD from main pot
lolwtfomg doesn't show [Th, 9c ]

PCP Poker
02-07-2009, 10:35 PM
I have also notice some where the action facing player is "Folded to Big Blind" when the player was in Small Blind or Hijack position. Granted, this was only 15 hands out of 12.5 million, so it's a very rare error.

morny
02-08-2009, 12:06 PM
Is this ongame where them HH are from, do you have the original HH if its from somewhere else

skydog
02-08-2009, 07:26 PM
Thanks for the reply.

These are all Full Tilt. Below are some of the original HH's. In every case I am listed as being in the big blind in HM, but I'm not. In all but one of these, players are sitting out. Given the listed button seat and the sitting out players, the HH's do imply that I am in the BB, but the betting sequence contradict that. So does this suggest an error in FT HH's?

Also in the 3rd hand below, the HH has no one sitting out and I am UTG, but I'm still incorrectly assigned the BB in HM.

Full Tilt Poker Game #10487752859: Table Tropicana (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 12:15:23 ET - 2009/02/07
Seat 1: TooScared4u ($48.50)
Seat 2: monkii ($60.85), is sitting out
Seat 3: DoktorMozga ($50.75)
Seat 4: RunGoot ($44.75)
Seat 5: Karp_Aces ($50)
Seat 6: synapse300 ($109.10)
DoktorMozga posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to RunGoot [Th 7s]
RunGoot has 15 seconds left to act
RunGoot folds
Karp_Aces folds
synapse300 calls $0.50

Full Tilt Poker Game #10480173072: Table Reba (deep 6) - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:38:13 ET - 2009/02/07
Seat 1: parsifals67 ($100)
Seat 2: eldiario ($72.45)
Seat 3: RunGoot ($244.85)
Seat 4: Ben_Zonah ($189.65)
Seat 5: Tomorrow Man ($206.50)
Seat 6: BeaucoupFish ($200), is sitting out
parsifals67 is sitting out
eldiario posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to RunGoot [Tc 6c]
RunGoot folds
Ben_Zonah raises to $3
Tomorrow Man folds
eldiario calls $2
*** FLOP *** [9d As 7h]
eldiario has 15 seconds left to act
eldiario bets $6
Ben_Zonah raises to $24
eldiario has 15 seconds left to act
eldiario folds
Uncalled bet of $18 returned to Ben_Zonah
Ben_Zonah mucks
Ben_Zonah wins the pot ($17.10)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $18 | Rake $0.90
Board: [9d As 7h]
Seat 1: parsifals67 is sitting out
Seat 2: eldiario (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: RunGoot didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: Ben_Zonah collected ($17.10), mucked
Seat 5: Tomorrow Man (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: BeaucoupFish is sitting out

Full Tilt Poker Game #10479607920: Table Tonga (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:01:56 ET - 2009/02/07
Seat 1: ryder108 ($49.50)
Seat 2: Wicket Warrick ($50)
Seat 3: RunGoot ($50)
Seat 4: cashgamer333 ($17.25)
Seat 5: SqueezyFbaby ($50)
Seat 6: Big Chief ($17.25)
Wicket Warrick has 5 seconds left to act
Wicket Warrick posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to RunGoot [Ah Th]
RunGoot raises to $1.50
cashgamer333 folds
SqueezyFbaby folds
Big Chief folds
Wicket Warrick adds $0.50
Wicket Warrick folds
Uncalled bet of $1 return

Full Tilt Poker Game #10442290659: Table Alina (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:32:45 ET - 2009/02/05
Seat 1: tice03 ($157.20)
Seat 2: Towboy1 ($42.60), is sitting out
Seat 3: rgroll86 ($99.80)
Seat 4: RunGoot ($74.95)
Seat 5: TurnedTheSet ($67.40)
Seat 6: lolwtfomg ($50.75)
rgroll86 posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to RunGoot [6d 9d]
RunGoot folds
TurnedTheSet folds
lolwtfomg raises to $1.50
tice03 folds
rgroll86 calls $1
*** FLOP *** [Ad 9h 6c]
rgroll86 checks
lolwtfomg bets $2.50
rgroll86 has 15 seconds left to act
rgroll86 raises to $7
lolwtfomg calls $4.50
*** TURN *** [Ad 9h 6c] [8c]
rgroll86 checks
lolwtfomg checks
*** RIVER *** [Ad 9h 6c 8c] [4h]
rgroll86 bets $17
rgroll86 has been disconnected
lolwtfomg has 15 seconds left to act
Towboy1 has been disconnected
lolwtfomg has requested TIME
Towboy1 has reconnected
rgroll86 has reconnected
lolwtfomg calls $17
*** SHOW DOWN ***
rgroll86 shows [6h Ah] two pair, Aces and Sixes
lolwtfomg mucks
rgroll86 wins the pot ($48.45) with two pair, Aces and Sixes
lolwtfomg adds $24.75

Full Tilt Poker Game #10504373176: Table Exeter (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 7:05:42 ET - 2009/02/08
Seat 1: imoverit ($56.70), is sitting out
Seat 2: Buy Me Dinner ($82.35)
Seat 3: luda and misha ($0), is sitting out
Seat 4: RunningALK ($111.65)
Seat 5: RunGoot ($54.25)
Seat 6: drewmau5 ($50)
RunningALK posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to RunGoot [Jd Ks]
RunGoot raises to $1.50
drewmau5 folds
Buy Me Dinner folds
RunningALK folds
Uncalled bet of $1 returned to RunGoot
RunGoot mucks
RunGoot wins the pot ($1)
luda and misha stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1 | Rake $0
Seat 1: imoverit is sitting out
Seat 2: Buy Me Dinner (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: luda and misha is sitting out
Seat 4: RunningALK (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: RunGoot collected ($1), mucked
Seat 6: drewmau5 didn't bet (folded)

morny
02-08-2009, 07:47 PM
Can you add the full HH unedited, if you cut a snippet off one it wont import for me.

Also so i can understand properly can you just put a note at the beginning saying:

Hand 1) Im actually BB HM sees me as Button etc

skydog
02-08-2009, 09:43 PM
Ooops, I accidentally cut off some of the HH's. Here they are in their full glory.

NOTE: In ALL Hands HM sees me as big blind.when I am actually UTG.

Full Tilt Poker Game #10487752859: Table Tropicana (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 12:15:23 ET - 2009/02/07
Seat 1: TooScared4u ($48.50)
Seat 2: monkii ($60.85), is sitting out
Seat 3: DoktorMozga ($50.75)
Seat 4: RunGoot ($44.75)
Seat 5: Karp_Aces ($50)
Seat 6: synapse300 ($109.10)
DoktorMozga posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to RunGoot [Th 7s]
RunGoot has 15 seconds left to act
RunGoot folds
Karp_Aces folds
synapse300 calls $0.50
TooScared4u folds
DoktorMozga checks
*** FLOP *** [8d 3h 2c]
DoktorMozga bets $1
synapse300 raises to $2
DoktorMozga has 15 seconds left to act
DoktorMozga raises to $7
synapse300 calls $5
*** TURN *** [8d 3h 2c] [4h]
DoktorMozga checks
synapse300 checks
*** RIVER *** [8d 3h 2c 4h] [As]
DoktorMozga checks
synapse300 bets $15
DoktorMozga has 15 seconds left to act
DoktorMozga adds $6.75
DoktorMozga folds
Uncalled bet of $15 returned to synapse300
synapse300 mucks
synapse300 wins the pot ($14.25)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $15 | Rake $0.75
Board: [8d 3h 2c 4h As]
Seat 1: TooScared4u (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: monkii is sitting out
Seat 3: DoktorMozga (big blind) folded on the River
Seat 4: RunGoot didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: Karp_Aces didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: synapse300 collected ($14.25), mucked




Full Tilt Poker Game #10479607920: Table Tonga (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:01:56 ET - 2009/02/07
Seat 1: ryder108 ($49.50)
Seat 2: Wicket Warrick ($50)
Seat 3: RunGoot ($50)
Seat 4: cashgamer333 ($17.25)
Seat 5: SqueezyFbaby ($50)
Seat 6: Big Chief ($17.25)
Wicket Warrick has 5 seconds left to act
Wicket Warrick posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to RunGoot [Ah Th]
RunGoot raises to $1.50
cashgamer333 folds
SqueezyFbaby folds
Big Chief folds
Wicket Warrick adds $0.50
Wicket Warrick folds
Uncalled bet of $1 returned to RunGoot
RunGoot mucks
RunGoot wins the pot ($1)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1 | Rake $0
Seat 1: ryder108 is sitting out
Seat 2: Wicket Warrick (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: RunGoot collected ($1), mucked
Seat 4: cashgamer333 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: SqueezyFbaby didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: Big Chief (button) didn't bet (folded)


Full Tilt Poker Game #10442290659: Table Alina (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:32:45 ET - 2009/02/05
Seat 1: tice03 ($157.20)
Seat 2: Towboy1 ($42.60), is sitting out
Seat 3: rgroll86 ($99.80)
Seat 4: RunGoot ($74.95)
Seat 5: TurnedTheSet ($67.40)
Seat 6: lolwtfomg ($50.75)
rgroll86 posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to RunGoot [6d 9d]
RunGoot folds
TurnedTheSet folds
lolwtfomg raises to $1.50
tice03 folds
rgroll86 calls $1
*** FLOP *** [Ad 9h 6c]
rgroll86 checks
lolwtfomg bets $2.50
rgroll86 has 15 seconds left to act
rgroll86 raises to $7
lolwtfomg calls $4.50
*** TURN *** [Ad 9h 6c] [8c]
rgroll86 checks
lolwtfomg checks
*** RIVER *** [Ad 9h 6c 8c] [4h]
rgroll86 bets $17
rgroll86 has been disconnected
lolwtfomg has 15 seconds left to act
Towboy1 has been disconnected
lolwtfomg has requested TIME
Towboy1 has reconnected
rgroll86 has reconnected
lolwtfomg calls $17
*** SHOW DOWN ***
rgroll86 shows [6h Ah] two pair, Aces and Sixes
lolwtfomg mucks
rgroll86 wins the pot ($48.45) with two pair, Aces and Sixes
lolwtfomg adds $24.75
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $51 | Rake $2.55
Board: [Ad 9h 6c 8c 4h]
Seat 1: tice03 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: Towboy1 is sitting out
Seat 3: rgroll86 (big blind) showed [6h Ah] and won ($48.45) with two pair, Aces and Sixes
Seat 4: RunGoot didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: TurnedTheSet didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: lolwtfomg mucked [Th 9c] - a pair of Nines



Full Tilt Poker Game #10504373176: Table Exeter (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 7:05:42 ET - 2009/02/08
Seat 1: imoverit ($56.70), is sitting out
Seat 2: Buy Me Dinner ($82.35)
Seat 3: luda and misha ($0), is sitting out
Seat 4: RunningALK ($111.65)
Seat 5: RunGoot ($54.25)
Seat 6: drewmau5 ($50)
RunningALK posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to RunGoot [Jd Ks]
RunGoot raises to $1.50
drewmau5 folds
Buy Me Dinner folds
RunningALK folds
Uncalled bet of $1 returned to RunGoot
RunGoot mucks
RunGoot wins the pot ($1)
luda and misha stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1 | Rake $0
Seat 1: imoverit is sitting out
Seat 2: Buy Me Dinner (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: luda and misha is sitting out
Seat 4: RunningALK (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: RunGoot collected ($1), mucked
Seat 6: drewmau5 didn't bet (folded)

morny
02-09-2009, 04:06 PM
NOTE: In ALL Hands HM sees me as big blind.when I am actually UTG.


Hi what version of HM are you using? In the latest beta it shows you RunGoot UTG in all those hands?

Try with this version http://www.holdemmanager.com/downloads/Hm1.08Beta.exe it might have been fixed

skydog
02-10-2009, 10:24 PM
I was using 1.07.01. When I update to 1.08 is it possible that my recorded seat location will change automatically, or do I need to purge these from my db and re-import them?

morny
02-10-2009, 11:18 PM
Youll need to purge and re-import those hands for it to change