View Full Version : what % do you have for QQ,KK,AA,AK frequency

01-05-2009, 03:26 PM
Hi everybody, just recently bought holdem manager and im still trying to get to grips with all the powerful info!

Whats everybodys QQ,KK,AA,AK frequency % (premium preflop cards)

mine is 1.9%

And yes i am parnoid ladbrokes isnt giving me my fair share!!

01-05-2009, 07:05 PM
You can't give us that number and exclude the hand sample size. Also, keep in mind that HM remembers the dates you have selected between tabs. In other words, you could have "All Hands" in the reports tab selected and have "Yesterday" selected in the preflop tab.

As far as rigging goes, if any site were to rig the game they wouldn't do it in such an obvious manner, IMO. I mean, wouldn't it make better sense to say, for example, shave your made flush draw odds by a few hairs making it take a huge sample of draw attemps to prove your results fall outside statistical dispersion?

You've got the tools now. Go to the vs players tab, select all hands and double-click on the players that are giving you trouble. Study their tendencies and learn how to exploit those tendencies. That would be a far better use of HM, IMO.

01-05-2009, 07:40 PM
Mines 22%, this should be about the average

01-06-2009, 06:40 AM
Mines 22%, this should be about the average

Wow Mine is 2.6% Im feeling ripped off I want 22% QQ+ and AK to.

01-06-2009, 09:23 AM
(6+6+6+16)/1326 = .025

Morny is running a bit hot, as sample size increases results should converge to above. =0

01-06-2009, 10:08 AM
My sample size was 1071! i guess thats a bit small?

qza, i wasn't serious about ladbrokes being rigged its my favourite site. But the stats in HM do support my gut feeling that i get more premium cards on VC poker. This hopefully will average out over the years.

Great point about looking at the players that im losing too.

Tier Tier

(6+6+6+16)/1326 = .025

Morny is running a bit hot, as sample size increases results should converge to above. =0

Could you explain they figures for me please?

thanks for the replies

01-06-2009, 10:57 AM
(4*3)/2=6 total combinations of being dealt AA. Since it's the same for QQ and KK, it's listed 3 times in the equation. (8*4)/2=16 total combinations of any AK (suited and offsuit combined) and (52*51)/2=1326 total two card possible combinations.

01-06-2009, 11:11 AM
In other words when you reach a descent sample size(=thousands of hands) you should get those hands 0,025 = 2,5%.

You didn't get your fair share of those hands YET. You didnt get them 2,5%-1,9%=0,6% often enough in your sample.

I am at 2,7% over 45300 hands

01-06-2009, 01:44 PM
2.6% over 275k hands

01-06-2009, 01:55 PM
cheers for the explanation!

WOW you guys have played alot of hands, ive had to format my computer quite a few times since starting playing poker feb07, so ive lost all that info, i dont suppose you can get it from ladbrokes under my alias?

01-06-2009, 02:35 PM
I was Joking, but most people never get my jokes anyway, maybe i should take the hint:p

01-08-2009, 11:05 AM
maybe we should be paying more attention to whom is making the post.

I've read of people requesting a shitload of hand histories at pokerstars.
Maybe you could ask them.

In Dutch we have a saying. You have no and yes you could get. :p