Chips EV in multiway PLO pot

[zadig23]

Hi, just so you know when all in in multiway situation the chip ev is totally fucked up.
Apparently not when it goes all preflop, but when it goes like one is all in flop and 2 others are turn it just end up looking like if i went all in on the river with 0 differences in term of EV

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[fozzy71]

HM3 uses the same Equity code as PT4 now which is more accurate and less biased than the code we used for Equity in HM2.

In a hand where a player is all-in but other players are not, net adjusted results are not calculated. When one player is all-in preflop and other players are not, then they usually have the option to act postflop and this means that sometimes one of them will fold. Having the option to fold* after another street is dealt means that in the long run there will be more strong hands which get to showdown and less weak hands. If we were to calculate net adjusted results in hands like this it would introduce a systematic bias (because there will be more known strong hands) so we exclude all hands like this from net adjusted calculations. You can read more about this here - https://www.pokertracker.com/blog/2011/10/the-problem-with-all-in-ev-all-in-equity

*Note: Attempting to calculate adjusted results when unknown but folded cards already called the all-in also introduce a bias into the results so HM3 does not make these calculations in any situation where a player calls the all-in and later folds (even if it's on the same street).

[zadig23]

what ? In this hand all players ended up being all in.

Not sure to get it
Is it not possible to calculate ev for the side pot ?

[zadig23]

what ? In this hand all players ended up being all in.

Not sure to get it
Is it not possible to calculate ev for the side pot ?

Im not talking about the main pot but the side pot in case i wasnt clear

[fozzy71]

The reply I gave was just a general 'canned' reply about why there might not be EV calculated for some multi-way all-in hands. Now that I look at your pics more closely I don't know for sure if this hand fits the criteria or not. I need to see the raw hand so I can see every action for every street for every player.

Can you please send us the original HH file in a support ticket as explained below so we can review it in detail to be sure if this should or should not be calculating EV for this specific hand:

Please zip and email the original problem hand histories and tournament summaries to us as instructed at the bottom of this FAQ (https://support.holdemmanager.com/support/faqView/Holdem-Manager-3/269/How-Are-Missing-Hands-~-Inaccurate-Reports-Fixed%3F#hm3-email-hh).

Make sure you also include screenshots of your reports/filters and a detailed description by tournament number, session, hole cards, filter, stat, etc. of some of the errors we need to test.