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gorsek1
03-07-2011, 07:01 AM
***** Hand History for Game 400222522 ***** (Absolute)
$10.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, March 07, 05:47:18 ET 2011
Table MINERVA WAY (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Seat 3: QRUSH ( $11.31 USD )
Seat 4: ICEHAMMER ( $10.00 USD )
Seat 5: CONCHIDORTOS ( $10.15 USD )
Seat 6: RHYMANNN ( $12.90 USD )
Seat 1: IBDKING ( $13.95 USD )
Seat 2: GORSEK1 ( $11.02 USD )
ICEHAMMER posts small blind [$0.05 USD].
CONCHIDORTOS posts big blind [$0.10 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to GORSEK1 [ As Kh ]
RHYMANNN folds
IBDKING folds
GORSEK1 raises [$0.45 USD]
QRUSH folds
ICEHAMMER folds
CONCHIDORTOS raises [$1.40 USD]
GORSEK1 calls [$1.05 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ks, Qc, 6s ]
CONCHIDORTOS bets [$2.40 USD]
GORSEK1 raises [$9.52 USD]
CONCHIDORTOS calls [$6.25 USD]
GORSEK1 wins $0.87 USD
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8h ]
** Dealing River ** [ 7c ]
GORSEK1 shows [As, Kh ]
CONCHIDORTOS shows [Js, Jh ]
GORSEK1 wins $19.34 USD from main pot

We went allin on flop. Based from my experience at the micros if i have AK preflop and hit a pair on flop i m good almost all the time. The player i went allin was a tag (tight passive preflop aggresive postlflop) his 3bet% was 6%.
I think i would never fold this. The only way i would fold it if we would be deepstacked.

In holdem manager it shows that instead of winning 9$ i should be -9$.

netsrak
03-07-2011, 09:24 AM
You mean the $(EV) diff column?

This one is negative when you win more than your EV and positive when winning less.

Patvs
03-07-2011, 11:16 PM
Was this hand imported into 1.11.05e (or a later version)?

We had an EV bug affecting 1.11.05 up to 1.11.05d.


If you imported it in 1.11.05-1.1105d
Please update to the latest version - http://www.holdemmanager.com/Downloads/HmUpdate.exe
create a new database and reimport the original handhistories.

gorsek1
03-08-2011, 01:33 AM
it was imported into version 1.11.06a

Patvs
03-08-2011, 05:04 AM
I imported the hand. And I only get a EV Diff for -$2.07.

So you win $9.19. But since you're "only" a 84% fav, your equity is $7.12, resulting in a EV Diff of $7.12 - $9.19 = -$2.07)

netsrak
03-08-2011, 05:15 AM
Could you please post a screenshot of the EV stats for the hand - i don't think there is a bug.