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henrics
12-14-2008, 07:37 AM
1-2NL
SS KhKs UTG with 16.64
Hero KdQd OTB with 378.86
SB Ac8h with 204.00

UTG calls 2
Hero R to 9
SB C 8

UTG RR AI to 16.64
Hero RR to 44
SB C

FLOP Qc6c8s
SB bets pot 106.64
Hero RR All in
SB call 54.36

According to HM heros EV $diff was -338.09

How can that be correct?

Al1
12-14-2008, 09:48 AM
About EV diff:

Imagine you are allin before the river and you have 50% chance to win the pot which is 100$ (only you and your opponent are contributed). If you win, you are +50$ net. But in this case, your EV diff will be -50$. By adding your net profit and the EV diff, you see what you are going to win in the long run from this pot. In this case 0$.

henrics
12-14-2008, 09:59 AM
About EV diff:

Imagine you are allin before the river and you have 50% chance to win the pot which is 100$ (only you and your opponent are contributed). If you win, you are +50$ net. But in this case, your EV diff will be -50$. By adding your net profit and the EV diff, you see what you are going to win in the long run from this pot. In this case 0$.

Sure but to me it seems like it's missing that the pot was between me and the other full stack.

I had 14% ev for the 16.64x3+1 that was all in preflop vs the SS

On the flop it counts it as i have 9% EV although I am the favorite vs SB.
It has to divide the EV between the main pot and the side pot for it to be somewhat correct.
Sure I have 9% ev to win the small main pot of 51.92 dollars
But i have 76.162 equity in the big side pot of 376.76 dollars

This should make the correct ev difference: -44.65-89.81-=-134.46

which isn't really the correct ev diff but i saw that you are working on that in another thread. (money gone in PF)

morny
12-14-2008, 04:05 PM
I read this the first time but also missed the shortstack, the reason its incorrect is because HM dosent calculate multiway pots correctly, its a known issue already on the to do list

henrics
12-14-2008, 04:12 PM
I read this the first time but also missed the shortstack, the reason its incorrect is because HM dosent calculate multiway pots correctly, its a known issue already on the to do list

Thanks