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mindworm
10-30-2013, 08:55 PM
Does HM and OM work with bovada? Being that it doesnt have players names? Will it atleast save the info from the sessions that you play until players leave? Or will it atleast track how your playing and etc.......

Patvs
10-30-2013, 10:14 PM
No, Bovada stopped writing handhistory files.
And as a result HoldemManager (and other pokertrackers) had to completely drop support for Bovada.

victumsempra
04-03-2014, 10:36 PM
Patvs,

How does a program like holdem indicator grab information from bovada and display it in a HUD. Does it use some kind of screen scrape?

Patvs
04-04-2014, 11:11 AM
I think... Bovada doesn't have handhistory files, but after a hand is finished, it can display the last hand in the client. And HoldemIndicator grabs this info directly from the client.

HoldemManager used to do the same with Bodog--> another solution would be to use Idleminer's handgrabber. (PokerTracker even had a built-in hand grabber, but also dropped this after Bodog (annoyingly) would change the handhistory formatting too often.

victumsempra
04-04-2014, 05:22 PM
Thanks for the reply.

I know you guys don't support Bodog/Bovada anymore, but would it be possible in theory to get the HEM2 HUD to work if you were somehow able to feed it the data that holdem indictator scrapes?

Patvs
04-04-2014, 09:52 PM
Theoretically... yes, if you feed HM2 hands in a accepted formatting, for example in a PartyPoker or Full Tilt or PokerStars handhistory formatting.

You'll need a script to convert the data that HoldemIndicator scrapes.

victumsempra
04-05-2014, 06:43 PM
Theoretically... yes, if you feed HM2 hands in a accepted formatting, for example in a PartyPoker or Full Tilt or PokerStars handhistory formatting.

You'll need a script to convert the data that HoldemIndicator scrapes.

Do you or anyone on your team or anyone you know have any interest in helping me to get a working script? I would be more than happy to provide compensation. How much time do you think would go into making something like this work?

Patvs
04-05-2014, 07:16 PM
It probably already exists.

Your best bet, is to post on 2+2.

victumsempra
04-05-2014, 07:25 PM
Will do. Thanks for your help Patvs.

victumsempra
04-07-2014, 01:06 AM
Patvs,

I posted in the unofficial bovada regs thread and the holdem indicator thread and have not heard a response yet (question got buried on bovada thread, no one seemed interested). Do you have any other info that might lead me in the right direction? Much appreciated.

Patvs
04-07-2014, 07:42 PM
I don't know.

Can you export the hands from Holdem Indicator?
Or does Holdem Indicator save the hands to a file?

What's their formatting, does each hand have a time/date stamp, handnumber, etc.?

victumsempra
04-07-2014, 09:09 PM
<title>
<![CDATA[$1.00/$2.00 No limit Hold'em - Whoche]]>
</title>
<PS self="5" dealer="4">
<P s="1" name="P1" chips="200" c="," cs="15 #:1 VP:0 PFR:0 AF: W: STL:|100 3B:0| CB: N:-2" hs="15 #:1 VP:0 PFR:0 AF: W: STL:|100 3B:0| CB: N:-2"/>
<P s="4" name="P4" chips="97" c="," cs="15 #:1 VP:0 PFR:0 AF: W: STL: 3B: CB: N:0" hs="15 #:1 VP:0 PFR:0 AF: W: STL: 3B: CB: N:0"/>
<P s="5" name="9400040220" chips="203" c="6d,7d" cs="15 #:1 VP:100 PFR:100 AF: W: STL:100| 3B: CB: N:2" hs="15 #:1 VP:100 PFR:100 AF: W: STL:100| 3B: CB: N:2"/>
</PS>
<AS>
<A seq="1" type="1" s="5" v="1"/>
<A seq="2" type="2" s="1" v="2"/>
<A seq="3" type="27" s="5"/>
<A seq="4" type="3" s="4"/>
<A seq="5" type="10" s="5" v="5"/>
<A seq="6" type="3" s="1"/>
<A seq="7" type="17" s="5" v="4"/>
<A seq="8" type="14" s="5" low="0" v="4" pot="0"/>
</AS>
</G>

It looks like Holdem Indicator saves all of the hands to a file. I think this represents one hand saved to the file, but might have cut it off early. I grabbed this by throwing the replay.db file into notepad.


P1(BB) $402.95 - VP:10 PFR:10 AF:0 W:100|100 STL:0|100 3B:0| CB:0| N:-14.05 Hands:21
P2(UTG) $813.85 - VP:33 PFR:33 AF: W: STL:75|100 3B:0|100 CB: N:20 Hands:21
P3(MP) $299.60 - VP:24 PFR:14 AF:0.5 W:50|100 STL:50|50 3B:0|0 CB:0|0 N:75.10 Hands:21
P4(CO) $382.15 - VP:24 PFR:10 AF:Inf. W:50|50 STL:50|75 3B:8| CB:50|100 N:-103.05 Hands:21
Me(BTN) $406 - VP:10 PFR:5 AF:1.0 W:0| STL:0|67 3B:10| CB:|0 N:25 Hands:21
P6(SB) $513.10 - VP:24 PFR:24 AF:Inf. W:0| STL:75|100 3B:0| CB:100| N:-15.30 Hands:21


Pre Flop: Me(BTN) with [Jh,Ad]
P2(UTG) folds, P3(MP) folds, P4(CO) raises 12, Me(BTN) calls 12, P6(SB) folds, P1(BB) folds


Flop: (3h,5h,9s) (2 players)
P4(EP) bets 16, Me(BTN) calls 16


Turn: 9h (2 players)
P4(EP) checks, Me(BTN) bets 36, P4(EP) folds


Final:
Returns 36 to Me(BTN)
Me(BTN) wins 59

Holdem Indicator also has a hand history replayer (which when loaded HEM2 HUD tries to recognize). You can export hands from your holdem indicator database from this screen and it returns the above hand history format.

There has to be a timestamp related to the hand history or else it wouldn't be able to know to return these hand histories when you query by date. I will keep digging and see if I can find a hand history number/date associated with it.

udbrky
04-08-2014, 05:39 PM
This is not something we will facilitate.

Bovada does not want HUD's. In order to remain allowed with sites, we have to work within their rules. We will not start circumventing their rules.

The table will not work with a HUD, because it is not programmed to work with the HUD.

victumsempra
04-09-2014, 10:31 PM
The table will not work with a HUD, because it is not programmed to work with the HUD.

I disagree with this statement. However, I respect your position. Thanks anyways.

fozzy71
04-10-2014, 10:36 AM
I disagree with this statement. However, I respect your position. Thanks anyways.

HM2 overlays the HUD based on hand histories for the previous hand. Since Bovada does not write hands while you play (you can only request them manually 24 hours after you played the hand) HM2 can not overlay a HUD.

victumsempra
04-10-2014, 07:17 PM
HM2 overlays the HUD based on hand histories for the previous hand. Since Bovada does not write hands while you play (you can only request them manually 24 hours after you played the hand) HM2 can not overlay a HUD.

I was more pointing out udbrky was claiming that the table will not work with a HUD. True, it will not work with HEM's HUD, but the data is there to create a "previous hand history." This is evident in Holdem Indicator's software which must use some kind of window hook or other method to pull the data to send to it's HUD. Hand histories are saved in real time (this is outside of bovada's 24 hour hand history request) which can be viewed using HI's replayer.

But I will leave it at that because, like I said, I understand and respect your position.