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Stasek
06-07-2013, 07:56 AM
This is for HU: when opponent raises sb to 3bb (and my preset bet is default "preflop 3bet = 100% pot") TN sets 3bet size incorrectly.

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sideshow
06-07-2013, 08:05 AM
Hi,

Go to the setup tab > click on the debug tab

Go to preset bet tab and leave that open

Open up a table and reproduce the betting issue take a screenshot containing all of the above and sent it to us How to take a screenshot: How to Quickly Take a Screenshot in Microsoft Windows - wikiHow (http://www.wikihow.com/Take-a-Screenshot-in-Microsoft-Windows)


Thanks

Stasek
06-08-2013, 12:25 PM
Hi,

Go to the setup tab > click on the debug tab

Go to preset bet tab and leave that open

Open up a table and reproduce the betting issue take a screenshot containing all of the above and sent it to us How to take a screenshot: How to Quickly Take a Screenshot in Microsoft Windows - wikiHow (http://www.wikihow.com/Take-a-Screenshot-in-Microsoft-Windows)


Thanks

17:18:12,091 INFO TNTables.scrape_cache - [pot] pot = -7.92281625142643E+28 on ftcom El Morro (heads up)/41588
17:18:12,138 INFO TNTables.scrape_cache - [pot] pot = -7.92281625142643E+28 on ftcom El Morro (heads up)/41588
17:18:12,200 INFO TNTables.scrape_cache - [pot] pot = -7.92281625142643E+28 on ftcom El Morro (heads up)/41588
17:18:12,216 INFO TNTables.scrape_cache - [pot] There is no bet box for ftcom El Morro (heads up)/41588

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Another issue i noticed is that program reads pot size incorrectly.
Check this out:
17:18:38,471 INFO TNTables.scrape_cache - [pot] pot = 4.46 on ftcom El Morro (heads up)/41588
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But selected $4.46 pot size happens when I click "80%" preset button.

Another problem - wrong raise size in limped pot:

17:16:42,423 INFO TNTables.scrape_cache - [pot] pot = 0.25 on ftcom Whey (6 max, deep)/41392

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Here pot is correctly detected in the debug log, but wrong in the FTP betting box.

Could it be that my custom configured bet size buttons (60%/80% and pot) are confusing the program?
I think it normally tries to click 'pot' button which for NL games is the middle one? But in my case I have 80% there...

Sarek
06-08-2013, 03:28 PM
What I see on your screens: you have modded table layout.
So as first thing - restore it back to default.

Stasek
06-10-2013, 07:29 AM
What I see on your screens: you have modded table layout.
So as first thing - restore it back to default.

I did reverted to the 'Plain' layout and it did not help.
What helped was modifying custom bet buttons, so that 'Pot' bet button was in the middle.
If you look at the first SS, first button is 'Min', last is 'Pot' and there is no middle button.
I've experimented more and put '1/2 pot' as the middle button and TN seemed to 'click' this one instead of 'Pot'.

So basically: TN2 is confused by customized bet buttons.

Check the results here:
1. Pot in the middle - good 3bet size:
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2. Half pot in the middle - bad (half pot) 3bet size
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Sarek
06-10-2013, 02:05 PM
"TN2 is confused by customized bet buttons."

This is NOT allowed at all.
For TN2 work correctly, you should:
- set to "run as admin" for TN2 and all poker clients
- set UAC = off in Windows
- disable Options -> Advanced Multi-Table Options" -> Highlight Bet Amount" in PokerStars client
- disable "Options" -> "Advanced Multitable Options..." and disable "New tournaments take focus" in PokerStars client
- for FT: disable Table options -> Gameplay settings -> Display active table on action
- for PS: disable Advanced multitable - > "Popup table whenever user action is required"
- FT: Custom Bet Buttons need to be reset to their defaults
- If you use TN2 layouts (any except "None") you should NOT use\apply pokerclient layout feature
- for FT: table should be enough big to display all 3 tabs above bet box (min-pot-max)
- for PS: disable Autoclose tourney without notification (this is mostly not for TN, but for HM - to make sure summary is writen in file and autoimported)

I explained in another thread - what TN2 does with betting on FTP. It simulates click on POT button abd expects it it where should be by default.

Stasek
06-11-2013, 09:24 AM
OK thanks for the info. I'll revert buttons to default and see how it goes.

Stasek
06-11-2013, 09:41 AM
I just reverted to default buttons, here is the screenshot:

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TN2 still puts wrong numbers:
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When I swap '1/2 pot' with 'pot' buttons so 'pot' is in the middle, TN2 does correctly put PF 3bet amount, but postflop even though bet size is configured as 80% in TN setup, it puts pot again.

Sarek
06-12-2013, 03:52 PM
This is because of Pot limit games. TN expects Pot button in the middle, I created a ticket for this issue HM-7049
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