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rigged2fk
01-09-2011, 10:11 AM
I note that your software does not reflect expected outcome. I ask if this is in error or not.

There are many gains to rig these deals and very few not to. It is also of interest that no tests are carried out to prove or disprove reflection of a real deal ( expected outcome) Also of great concern is the fact that there are no regulations that insist on a genuine deal just that sites are random.

Any player of any ability is fully awre of what random stands for ???? RIGGED

random is between any two given goal posts what ever the program reqires.

All iall your sofware is rigged either in error or by design.

All reply welcome.

rigged2fk:eek:

The Minder
01-09-2011, 07:55 PM
Wonderful first post... you are to be congratulated.

For every1 else, nothing to see here. Just another conspiracy theorist.

rigged2fk
01-10-2011, 05:10 AM
theorist LOL all top 5 online sites defie expected outcome THIS IS A FACT no theory hard cold fact.

not one of the top 5 sites tests for expected outcome mmmm odd eeeee if so honest.

Patvs
01-11-2011, 01:02 AM
HM had a EV bug (affecting AA vs AK preflop allin type hands) in 1.11.05
If you reimport your hands into a new 1.11.05e database:

http://www.holdemmanager.com/Downloads/Hm_1.11.05e-1.exe


you will find HM using accurate expected value for all cashgames, using the Independent Chip Model (ICM)

rigged2fk
01-11-2011, 08:00 AM
you mis understand, I played pro for a while ( a winner) and never have i seen situations like onlline expexted out is continually defied.

I dont care about starting hand percentages as my math is top dollar. what bothers me is the twist of probabilty from flop to river.

These outcomes are all out of tune with the real odds of probability.

Again i ask why do all the top sites refuse to test for expected outcome.

Sarek
01-11-2011, 08:14 AM
Again i ask why do all the top sites refuse to test for expected outcome.

why not to put this question there?

Patvs
01-11-2011, 06:37 PM
I'm confused. You can't handle variance?
Or you disagree with the All-in EV system?

There are other EV systems (for example EV per street) but they have similar flaws.

Read: http://forums.holdemmanager.com/manager-general/24059-ev-not-all-situations.html

The Minder
01-11-2011, 08:39 PM
Guys... OP is a 'rigged conspiracy theorist'. No answer/response is going to be acceptable to him.

netsrak
01-12-2011, 05:17 AM
I think i better close this thread so that Pat and Sarek are no longer confused :)