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Hood
01-09-2011, 07:46 AM
Something I've always had trouble with is removing limps from preflop situations. For example, say I want to look at hands where it was folded to the smallblind who steals, and we defend. How can I write a filter for this that doesn't include limps?

Doing a filter like this:

http://i.min.us/ibudm2.jpg

Will match a hand like this:


PokerStars Game #55008195541: Hold'em Limit ($5/$10 USD) - 2010/12/29 2:53:18 WET [2010/12/28 21:53:18 ET]
Table 'Toutatis' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: SlickDickey ($556 in chips)
Seat 2: moomuncher ($363 in chips)
Seat 3: thetalker ($444 in chips)
Seat 4: Hood34 ($493 in chips)
Seat 5: win667788 ($184 in chips)
Seat 6: Wadsulator ($416 in chips)
thetalker: posts small blind $2
Hood34: posts big blind $5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hood34 [3s 4s]
win667788: folds
Wadsulator: folds
SlickDickey: folds
moomuncher: calls $5
thetalker: raises $5 to $10
Hood34: calls


And I can't see any way in other filters to remove hands like this. It's like we need an additional "preflop action facing player" type, "1 Raiser (no limpers)", or "Position of 1st limper: N/A (no limpers)"

netsrak
01-09-2011, 01:04 PM
I think More filters -> In SB and Steal attempted = true would filter out this hand.

Hood
01-10-2011, 02:45 PM
I tried that and for some reason it removse all hands from the filter when i add this

a.k.a.Also
01-10-2011, 03:36 PM
Isn't more filters for hero?
Try in BB and Steal Defended = True, together with your original filter.

It didn't return any limpers for me, but only tried it on a fairly small db.

Hood
01-10-2011, 03:55 PM
Right, but what if i don't want to filter out the times I folded? This would only return hands when I called.

In this use-case I am trying to see what % of the time I defending in the BB, and see what kind of hands I am folding, calling and 3betting.

a.k.a.Also
01-10-2011, 05:42 PM
Your filter + in BB and Steal Attempted = true looks as if it will return both
Reading another thread it seems that for it to be considered a Steal, it must be an unopened pot, which is what is filtering out the limpers, using this extra filter

Hood
01-11-2011, 04:01 AM
Ok that works, thanks.

But what about a non-BB situation. Let's say hero is button, we want to look at CO steals (no limpers).

a.k.a.Also
01-11-2011, 07:20 PM
Pfff - no pleasing some folks ;)

Beats me, I can't see any way of doing this. Back to your suggestions for extra filters I guess, though it seems to me that perhaps the main filters might need tweaking.
After all if we leave 1 limper unchecked, I don't see why we should return hands with a limper?

Hopefully we can get this bumped for further investigation.

Hood
01-12-2011, 02:17 AM
Right, I guess that's what I've been driving at. I think the expected behaviour of filtering to just '1 raiser' is that no limpers are included in the filter, and that there should be a separate "1 or more limpers and 1 raiser" (or "1 isolation")

Sarek
01-12-2011, 06:06 AM
select position (BU) and
deselect limpers position
set pos of 1st raiser = CO

Hood
01-12-2011, 06:08 AM
Did you look at the screenshot in the OP?

This is what I did and it doesn't remove limpers.

morny
01-12-2011, 10:04 AM
Yeah ill put forward a suggestion where you can just filter for 1 raiser but also a section that allows you to tick No Limpers, No callers etc, that would probably do it