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DJDoubleD
12-16-2010, 09:58 AM
When you go allin vs multiple opponents who call your allin and have you covered,
the hand doesn't register as an allin hand and no allin EV is calculated.

I don't know it this has been reported before, but i noticed it several times now
and manually updating the database is getting annoying.

netsrak
12-16-2010, 11:26 AM
Please send us some sample hands (the original handhistory from c:\hmarchive) with link to this thread and explanation to support@holdemmanager.com

EnRaged
01-03-2011, 06:10 AM
I think I have couple hands related to this issue:



PokerStars Game #55278035400: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10 USD) - 2011/01/03 10:48:37 MSK [2011/01/03 2:48:37 ET]
Table 'Derice V' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: ZoRk EnRaged ($1.85 in chips)
Seat 2: OldMajPro ($2 in chips)
Seat 3: Godkiller84 ($10.91 in chips)
Seat 4: magicAAlegs ($8.07 in chips)
Seat 5: Michelle0203 ($10.48 in chips)
Seat 6: Zzhil ($5 in chips)
Michelle0203: posts small blind $0.05
Zzhil: posts big blind $0.10
OldMajPro: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ZoRk EnRaged [Kc Kh]
ZoRk EnRaged: raises $0.30 to $0.40
OldMajPro: calls $0.30
Godkiller84: folds
magicAAlegs: calls $0.40
Michelle0203: calls $0.35
Zzhil: folds
*** FLOP *** [5c 6s 4d]
Michelle0203: checks
ZoRk EnRaged: bets $1.45 and is all-in
OldMajPro: calls $1.45
magicAAlegs: calls $1.45
Michelle0203: calls $1.45
*** TURN *** [5c 6s 4d] [As]
Michelle0203: checks
OldMajPro: checks
magicAAlegs: bets $0.30
Michelle0203: calls $0.30
OldMajPro: calls $0.15 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [5c 6s 4d As] [Jc]
Michelle0203: checks
magicAAlegs: bets $0.40
Michelle0203: calls $0.40
*** SHOW DOWN ***
magicAAlegs: shows [Ad 7d] (a pair of Aces)
Michelle0203: mucks hand
magicAAlegs collected $1.04 from side pot-2
OldMajPro: mucks hand
magicAAlegs collected $0.45 from side pot-1
ZoRk EnRaged: mucks hand
magicAAlegs collected $7.13 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $9.05 Main pot $7.13. Side pot-1 $0.45. Side pot-2 $1.04. | Rake $0.43
Board [5c 6s 4d As Jc]
Seat 1: ZoRk EnRaged mucked [Kc Kh]
Seat 2: OldMajPro mucked [Ts 8s]
Seat 3: Godkiller84 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: magicAAlegs (button) showed [Ad 7d] and won ($8.62) with a pair of Aces
Seat 5: Michelle0203 (small blind) mucked [8d 5s]
Seat 6: Zzhil (big blind) folded before Flop

This hand is registered as an All-in at the flop, but all-in EV is not calculated even though all hole cards are known and replayer does calculate equity at different streets.

And the other one, not quite the same, but I think it's related:



PokerStars Game #55219869852: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10 USD) - 2011/01/02 11:53:22 MSK [2011/01/02 3:53:22 ET]
Table 'Etamin III' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: SemiBluff79 ($6 in chips)
Seat 2: rmsims82 ($7.86 in chips)
Seat 3: mr:Mac pep ($4.32 in chips)
Seat 4: borovoe84 ($5.25 in chips)
Seat 5: ZoRk EnRaged ($1.75 in chips)
Seat 6: Nistarh ($6.02 in chips)
ZoRk EnRaged: posts small blind $0.05
Nistarh: posts big blind $0.10
mr:Mac pep: posts small & big blinds $0.15
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ZoRk EnRaged [Kh Kc]
SemiBluff79: calls $0.10
rmsims82: folds
mr:Mac pep: checks
borovoe84: folds
ZoRk EnRaged: raises $1.65 to $1.75 and is all-in
Nistarh: folds
SemiBluff79: calls $1.65
mr:Mac pep: calls $1.65
*** FLOP *** [8s 5c As]
SemiBluff79: checks
mr:Mac pep: checks
*** TURN *** [8s 5c As] [4c]
SemiBluff79: checks
mr:Mac pep: bets $2.52 and is all-in
SemiBluff79: folds
Uncalled bet ($2.52) returned to mr:Mac pep
*** RIVER *** [8s 5c As 4c] [6d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ZoRk EnRaged: shows [Kh Kc] (a pair of Kings)
mr:Mac pep: shows [4h 4s] (three of a kind, Fours)
mr:Mac pep collected $5.13 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $5.40 | Rake $0.27
Board [8s 5c As 4c 6d]
Seat 1: SemiBluff79 folded on the Turn
Seat 2: rmsims82 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: mr:Mac pep showed [4h 4s] and won ($5.13) with three of a kind, Fours
Seat 4: borovoe84 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: ZoRk EnRaged (small blind) showed [Kh Kc] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 6: Nistarh (big blind) folded before Flop

In this hand HM shows correctly that I went all-in at preflop, but All-in EV is 4.5% which is Turn equity. Had I won this hand at river I'd get huge -EV and that would be very inaccurate.

(HM version 1.11.05e)

netsrak
01-03-2011, 10:37 AM
Please mail them to support@holdemmanager.com. We need the original file from the archive.