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biood
04-10-2013, 10:26 AM
hi, I'm playing 6 max plo hypers mainly and somethign like this appears:

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so Iam 67 % towin but cev Diff tells me basically that i was minus EV.. seems pretty random to me, it appears very often, basically everyhand where i get it in seems to be wrong chip EV difference.. am I missing something?

udbrky
04-10-2013, 09:05 PM
The formula is Expected Winnings - Actual Winnings = Chip EVDiff

So if you won more hands than you expected to (almost always true, unless you were 100% or 0%), then it will be negative.

biood
04-11-2013, 06:20 AM
did you even look at my screenshot ? i had 67 % to win the hand... i won 930, cEV diff says - 932 ... so that implies that I am losing 2 chips on average in that hand which is obviously wrong when i get it in with 67 % .. i hope you get my point of view now... just tell me if I am missing something. i mean pot was 1860 as it was heads up... so 67% is 1246,2 ... so shoudln the cEV diff be 316,2 - 930 = -613,8 ? basically saying i am winning 316,2 on average in that hand ?

fozzy71
04-11-2013, 08:03 PM
I saw this same post on 2+2 earlier today. In the future please try not to cross-post the same question on multiple forums as that just causes us extra work answering the same thing twice when we could be helping someone else.

I expect this is a known issue with the EV calculations like I mentioned on 2+2 but if you want to export the hand and email it to us we can do some detailed testing. Please zip and email the problem hand histories, with a link to this thread and your forum name, to support@holdemmanager.com