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AzaFolkz
11-28-2010, 07:56 AM
Hello,


I've made some researches but it seems that everything is not clear,

I'm looking for a custom stat for every method of rake, not depending on the site where I play calculation method.

For instance,
rake/mgr dealt stat
rake/mgr average contributed stat
rake/mgr weighted contributed stat

Thus I can compare between the different method if its better for me to play on dealt or weighted websites.

Moreover, as we know, only the weighted method reflects the real rake that we pay so we can have a true image of the rake that we really pay.

I think that after, it will be easier for players to figure out how much rakeback they should receive or how much rake they've paid.


Thank you


And as a little contribution and for information to players:

DEALT:
pokerstars.com
Party Network (.com)
Cake Network

AVERAGE:
iPoker Network (.com)
Boss Media (.com)
Cereus Network (.com)

WEIGHTED:
Microgaming Network (.com)
Entraction Network (.com)
Merge Network (.com)

ESSENCE:
Ongame Network
Bodog Network

Raventhon
12-17-2010, 10:51 AM
Here's WC rake:


<Stat ColumnName="WCRake" ValueExpressions="SUM(pkh.rakeamount * (phmisc.postamountpreflop + phmisc.betamountpreflop + phmisc.callamountpreflop + COALESCE(flop.betamount + flop.callamount, 0) + COALESCE(turn.betamount + turn.callamount, 0) + COALESCE(river.betamount + river.callamount, 0)) * 1. / (pkh.potsize + pkh.rakeamount)) * 0.01 AS WCRake" Evaluate="WCRake" ColumnHeader="WC Rake" ColumnFormat="$0.00" ColumnWidth="*" Tooltip="Weighted Contributed Rake (including uncalled bets)" />

AzaFolkz
12-18-2010, 05:39 PM
Ty very much, I will try this.

Do you have the formulas for Average contributed and dealt rake as well?

Thanks

AzaFolkz
01-01-2011, 07:59 PM
UP, is there someone else with Dealt Rake and Average Contributed Rake formulas, so I can compare which method is better for me?

Thanks

fasenderos
01-28-2011, 10:11 AM
UP, is there someone else with Dealt Rake and Average Contributed Rake formulas, so I can compare which method is better for me?


me too interested in the Dealt and Avarage rake formulas...
thanks

JPonline
02-03-2011, 05:14 AM
+ 1



Could please somemone provide the Formula for average Contributed rake??
Thank You !

titoufred
02-03-2011, 04:23 PM
Here's a stat for dealtrake :

Stat ColumnName="Dealt Rake" ColumnHeader="Dealt Rake" ColumnFormat="$0.00" ColumnWidth="*" Tooltip="Dealtl Rake"
ValueExpressions="sum(pkh.rakeamount/100.0/pkh.numberofplayers) as DealtRake" Evaluate="DealtRake" />

Enjoy !

fasenderos
02-03-2011, 06:05 PM
I'm not sure if it is the right way to evaluate Dealt & Average & Weighted rake, and I hope that some guru will correct me..
I try to explain with an example:

6 Max Table (BB/SB $1/$0,5)
6 Dealt Player
Hero is in BB

***PREFLOP***
Villain1 limp, Villain2to4 fold, Villain5 Complete
Tot Preflop Pot = $3

***FLOP***
Villain5 Check, Hero Bet $1, Villain1 Call, Villain5 Call
Tot Flop Pot = $6

***TURN***
Villain5 Check, Hero Bet $2, Villain1 Call, Villain5 Fold
Tot Turn Pot = $10

***RIVER***
Hero Bet $3, Villain1 Call
Tot Pot = $16
Rake 5% => (16/100)*5 = $0,8
Hero Wins the Pot = $15,2

Rake Evaluation

Dealt Method = Tot Rake/Dealt Player => $0,8/6 = $0,1333
Hero Rake = $0,1333

Average Method = Tot Rake/VPIP Player => $0,8/3 = $0,2666
Hero Rake = $0,2666

Weighted Method = % of pot contribution => Hero has contributed $7 to the pot => 7/16=X/100 =>
X= 43,75% => ($0,8/100)*43,75 = $0,35
Hero Rake = $0,35


...So in HEM Language:

Dealt Rake


Stat ColumnName="Dealt Rake" ColumnHeader="Dealt Rake" ColumnFormat="$0.00" ColumnWidth="*" Tooltip="Dealt Rake"
ValueExpressions="sum(pkh.rakeamount/pkh.numberofplayers) * 0.01 as DealtRake" Evaluate="DealtRake" />

Average Rake


Stat GroupName="Default" ColumnName="Average Rake" ValueExpressions="Sum(case when pkh.numberofplayerssawflop >= 1 and ph.didvpip=TRUE then (pkh.rakeamount/pkh.numberofplayerssawflop) * 0.01 else 0 end) as AverageRake" Evaluate="AverageRake" ColumnHeader="Average Rake" ColumnFormat="$0.00" ColumnWidth="*" Tooltip="Average Rake" />


Weighted Rake


Stat ColumnName="Weighted Rake"
ValueExpressions="sum((pkh.rakeamount/100) * (((phmisc.postamountpreflop + phmisc.betamountpreflop + phmisc.callamountpreflop + COALESCE(flop.betamount + flop.callamount, 0) + COALESCE(turn.betamount + turn.callamount, 0) + COALESCE(river.betamount + river.callamount, 0)) * 100) / pkh.potsize)) * 0.01 as WeightedRake" Evaluate="WeightedRake"
ColumnHeader="Weighted Rake" ColumnFormat="$0.00" ColumnWidth="*" Tooltip="Weighted Rake" />

Hei Guru, reply please

P.S.: AzaFolkz I'm sorry if I'm abusing your post