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Likurg
11-15-2010, 04:36 AM
Hi. Can somebody explain stats like: vs_ep_raise_ip_fold, vs_ep_raise_oop_fold, ep_vs_raise_ip_fold, ep_vs_raise_oop_fold with examples?

I have some ideas, for example, vs_ep_raise_ip_fold means, how often I fold on MP1(for instance) after raise from UTG1(for instance), it's important, that my position is after raiser's position, so I am "in position" relatively to him. But in this case, I don't understand, what vs_ep_raise_oop_fold, because oop stands for "Out of position". Maybe this stat is useful only, when I am on Big Blind (it's like I'll be out of position on future streets)?

Maksim

netsrak
11-15-2010, 09:23 AM
Here are our stat definitions:
FAQ - Hold'em Manager Poker Tracking Software :: Stat Definitions (http://faq.holdemmanager.com/questions/95/Stat+Definitions)

Likurg
11-15-2010, 09:31 AM
I know and I've already seen it, but I can't find stats like vs_ep_raise_ip_fold, vs_ep_raise_oop_fold, ep_vs_raise_ip_fold, ep_vs_raise_oop_fold there...

There are some similar stats, like 3B_vs_open_from.EP.total, but all these stats are 3bet related

netsrak
11-15-2010, 12:05 PM
Where do you see this stats?

Likurg
11-15-2010, 03:44 PM
In database, compiledplayerresults_month table :)

netsrak
11-16-2010, 04:44 AM
I hope you find them here:
Formulas for every HM Stat! (Updated Nov 12, 2009) - Holdem Manager Forums (http://forums.holdemmanager.com/showthread.php?t=3595)
Questions regarding "3-bet vs." stats - Holdem Manager Forums (http://forums.holdemmanager.com/showthread.php?t=10810)

Likurg
11-16-2010, 07:44 AM
Noup, not found..

Likurg
11-17-2010, 07:24 AM
Up.
Question is still actual!!

netsrak
11-17-2010, 08:21 AM
I forwarded your question to Morny, i hope he can help you.

Likurg
11-17-2010, 09:53 AM
Ok. Tnx)

morny
11-18-2010, 04:20 AM
I dont know for sure but it does sound like your initial guess is pretty close, the only place your OOP when facing a raise from EP would be the blinds.

Also this table looks to me like its storing session information because each record has a number of hands associated with it, just thought id mention it in case your trying to get the values for a particular hand.

Simplest way to verify is to insert 1 hand where you were in the blinds and faced an EP raise and see if the values were, we dont have a database schema in circulation yet and if i refer this to the developer it may take some time as i know he is completely overloaded with work as it is so thats why im suggesting doing some tests yourself.

Likurg
11-18-2010, 04:35 AM
Ok. Tnx, I'll try.