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El Helado
11-02-2008, 08:50 AM
Been reviewing hands of a friend and I added the filter "did coldcoldcall= true" and then CC% is 100%. Just reviewed the first hand and he did NOT coldcall here, he just called which is a pretty big difference.

Grabbed by Holdem Manager (http://www.holdemmanager.net)
Limit Holdem $0.25(BB) Replayer
Reebows ($55.15)
HERO ($30.31)
pingwe94 ($13.86)
TeHbKa ($4.80)
SmileDolphin ($8.74)
Alfie8209 ($11.99)

Dealt to Hero 8:diamond:7:diamond:

pingwe94 calls $0.25, fold, fold, Alfie8209 raises to $0.50, fold, HERO calls $0.25, pingwe94 calls $0.25,

FLOP ($1.60) 3:spade:J:diamond:K:club:

check, pingwe94 bets $0.25, Alfie8209 folds, HERO folds,

pingwe94 wins $1.52

morny
11-02-2008, 10:20 AM
the stat description is incorrect it is in fact the same as the call open stat and its defined as: when someone is faced with a raise and they call. In this case its a min raise but still a raise

El Helado
11-02-2008, 10:23 AM
the stat description is incorrect it is in fact the same as the call open stat and its defined as: when someone is faced with a raise and they call. In this case its a min raise but still a raise

A coldcall is when someone calls a raise offblind?

Example: UTG raises 2 BBs and HJ calls 2 BB = Coldcall
Example 2: UTG raises 2 BBs and BB calls 1 BB= Not a coldcall.

morny
11-02-2008, 10:27 AM
The correct definition of a cold call is where someone raises and someone 3bets and a 3rd person calls (i.e the person who didnt raise or 3bet)

But callopen (coldcall in this case) is just where someone is facing a raise and calls

El Helado
11-02-2008, 10:41 AM
The correct definition of a cold call is where someone raises and someone 3bets and a 3rd person calls (i.e the person who didnt raise or 3bet)

But callopen (coldcall in this case) is just where someone is facing a raise and calls

From the Limit Holdem: Winning shorthanded strategies - Barry Tenenbaum:
"Coldcall= To call a raise directly without having any money invested".

This is the correct definition and what is most useful. If a player overlimps and then SB o BB raises and then call (overlimp-call) then it is not a coldcall like it is labelled in HM.