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Rvg72
10-28-2008, 04:56 PM
Holdem Manager has a lot of stats you can add to any report but the possibilities are endless. Use this thread to come up with creative and complex stats or basic ones that have been overlooked and we'll get them added to the manager.

When submitting an idea try to be as clear as possible especially if the stat is complex - examples are great.

Thanks,

Roy

bamski
10-28-2008, 10:11 PM
Is there an hourly rate stat under the reports section? I see it under sessions tab but not under reports.

chaosad
10-29-2008, 03:04 AM
VPP and VPP/h for PokerStars would sounds great

bibibibi
10-29-2008, 03:44 AM
- Sklansky bucks (each street and total)

- Donkbet, then fold to a raise (% of the time a player donkbet and then fold if he's raised on the flop) (in hud too)

- Abbreviation name with the choice of the 3, 5 or 8 first name's letters (instead of only 8 letters for the moment)
Example : a player called "pokermanlobo"
we can choose to display the abbreviation name as "pok", "poker" or "pokerman"
In general i don't need to have 8 letters of the abbreviatioon name, that's too much
That is for the hud of course

Lucky Stiff
10-29-2008, 10:43 AM
Aggression Frequency for each street and total postflop. (bets+raises)/(bets+raises+calls+folds)

Rvg72
10-30-2008, 01:41 AM
Is there an hourly rate stat under the reports section? I see it under sessions tab but not under reports.

It isn't easy to calculate for a report - I will add it but this one will take a bit more work.

Roy

Rvg72
10-30-2008, 01:41 AM
VPP and VPP/h for PokerStars would sounds great

Can you let me know how they are calculated

Roy

DyLaK
10-30-2008, 10:03 AM
3bet excluding SB and BB

edit: SB and BB vs steal

chaosad
11-01-2008, 06:18 AM
Can you let me know how they are calculated

Roy

1. Earn FPP credits for cash game play

First Frequent Player Point (FPP) is awarded for playing a hand in which the rake reaches:

* $0.40 for fixed limit poker games with stakes $1/$2 and lower
* $0.40 for NL/PL poker games with blinds $1/$2 and lower
* $0.40 for "1-on-1" poker games (this applies only to "1-on-1" tables, not to regular tables which have only two players seated)
* $1.00 for all other games

Second FPP is awarded for playing a hand in which the rake reaches:

* $2.00 for all 6-max tables (this doesn't apply for games being played 6- handed at 10/9/8 player tables - just 6-max tables)
* $3.00 for all other tables

Third FPP is awarded for playing a hand in which the rake reaches $5.00.

Rvg72
11-01-2008, 04:43 PM
Thanks for the feedback and Stars VPP details. I'll get most of these added in upcoming builds

Roy

chaosad
11-01-2008, 04:49 PM
I´m looking forward to the next version. Thx

Finnisher
11-01-2008, 10:38 PM
Paid rake like in pt

Al1
11-01-2008, 11:11 PM
Aggression Frequency % like in PT3

guitarizt
11-02-2008, 09:26 AM
Paid rake like in pt

+1

GravityPhone
11-02-2008, 04:02 PM
I'd like to see:
Stack sizes in BB in the hud (even possible?)
open minraise % by position
limping hand strength by position

Finnisher
11-03-2008, 11:11 PM
WTSD/pfai-r or wtsd/pfr ie how often you get called when shoving pf.

Rvg72
11-04-2008, 09:30 PM
Great ideas guys, we'll get some of these in the manager in the next update. Getting stats in the hud takes longer because they need to be precompiled but we'll be adding a new stack of stats to the hud soon.

Roy

DonManuel
11-05-2008, 06:41 PM
Sklansky bucks
3bet when NOT on the blinds
bet pot (or more) on river and won a SD
calls flop cbet and turn barrel with less than top pair
calls 3 barrels with top pair or less

dje2007
11-06-2008, 03:10 AM
filter "all in on the river or earlier" is not present

It seem to be usefull if i want to sort my hand with all my all in decisions

am i wrong ?

Regards

Djé

DeJvX
11-06-2008, 07:58 AM
I would like to see a float % stat!

DonManuel
11-06-2008, 03:21 PM
I would like to see a float % stat!

Yeah, something like 3 stats:

-calls flop cbet with less than top pair
-calls flop and turn cbet with less than top pair
-calls flop, turn and river with less than top pair

It would also be nice to have a stat like

-raises flop (not necessarily a cbet) with OESD or FD or OESD+FD


These SD stats require a lot of hands on villains, but they can provide very valuable information

Rvg72
11-06-2008, 07:32 PM
Yeah, something like 3 stats:

-calls flop cbet with less than top pair
-calls flop and turn cbet with less than top pair
-calls flop, turn and river with less than top pair

It would also be nice to have a stat like

-raises flop (not necessarily a cbet) with OESD or FD or OESD+FD


These SD stats require a lot of hands on villains, but they can provide very valuable information

Hi Don, the problem with these stats is that due to selection bias the numbers will be completely wrong for anyone but yourself (since HM knows your cards)

Roy

DonManuel
11-06-2008, 07:53 PM
Hi Don, the problem with these stats is that due to selection bias the numbers will be completely wrong for anyone but yourself (since HM knows your cards)


They would be only reliable against regs, definitely, since you can have a ton of hands of them. But for Hero they're also interesting: how successful am I raising draws on the flop? am I reading correctly when calling down with weak hands?

The bet pot river (or something like 90% or more of the pot) and win a SD has more occurences than the others, imo. There are a lot of villains who religiously bet pot on the river with the best hand; other who only pot the river as a bluff.

Just my 2 cents

Rvg72
11-06-2008, 08:06 PM
1. Earn FPP credits for cash game play

First Frequent Player Point (FPP) is awarded for playing a hand in which the rake reaches:

* $0.40 for fixed limit poker games with stakes $1/$2 and lower
* $0.40 for NL/PL poker games with blinds $1/$2 and lower
* $0.40 for "1-on-1" poker games (this applies only to "1-on-1" tables, not to regular tables which have only two players seated)
* $1.00 for all other games

Second FPP is awarded for playing a hand in which the rake reaches:

* $2.00 for all 6-max tables (this doesn't apply for games being played 6- handed at 10/9/8 player tables - just 6-max tables)
* $3.00 for all other tables

Third FPP is awarded for playing a hand in which the rake reaches $5.00.

This is added in beta 22 - only issue is that I currently don't record the table size so it is based on # of players so if rake is $0.40 on a heads up full ring table it will record the 1 point.

Roy

Rvg72
11-06-2008, 08:56 PM
VPP and VPP/h for PokerStars would sounds great

Added VPP per hour as well to beta 22

bibibibi
11-14-2008, 06:35 AM
in the hud : % fold to squeeze
the same things than fold to 3bet, but when it is a 3bet squeeze

Self Made
11-18-2008, 06:12 PM
Aggression Frequency % like in PT3

Isn't this already there? Agg%

Self Made
11-18-2008, 06:16 PM
A postflop looseness measure. Overall, and perhaps by street. Just % of time they call a bet, or % of time they call or raise. Vote for it (http://holdemmanager.uservoice.com/pages/general/suggestions/74737).

bibibibi
11-20-2008, 05:50 PM
Fold to cbet in position
Fold to cbet out of position
(HUd+main)

tloapc
11-21-2008, 10:16 AM
I'd really <3 to see an option for color coding the popup stats :D
I see it's done with money won/lost

morny
11-21-2008, 12:46 PM
I'd really <3 to see an option for color coding the popup stats :D
I see it's done with money won/lost

This is for custom stats, new features can be requested here: http://holdemmanager.uservoice.com/

Self Made
11-27-2008, 03:51 PM
A postflop looseness measure.

This sounds like it would be easy to make: just the reciprocal of the data underlying fold to flop/turn/river bet.

kkot
11-29-2008, 06:16 PM
I know that I can find rake paid, but is the anyway to find MGR, both contributed and not?

morny
11-29-2008, 09:20 PM
Is this what your looking for: http://208.109.95.123/forum/showthread.php?t=2521

El Helado
11-30-2008, 06:12 AM
New stats (my suggestion is nr 1 on the uservoice btw):

Additional stats:
Rake/100 hands
Rake in BB/100 hands

Truewinrate $= (Winrate + RB%*rake/100 hands)
True winrate BB/100 = BB/100 + RB%*Rake in BB/100)
Hourly salary (numbers of hours played * true winrate$.

Average tables played at once.

Maybe more complicated:
Winrate when 1tabling, 2tabling, 3tabling etc.
Report on $/table/hour on different networks with different rakeback (would be EXTREMLY interesting).

Rodolphe2005
11-30-2008, 09:29 AM
Standard deviation for the adjusted winrate plz !

Mendez
11-30-2008, 01:03 PM
a limpcall stat that works for HU play (i.e. the SB completes, the BB raises and SB calls.

Neither the existing limpcall stat nor call open in SB stat work for this.

Self Made
12-10-2008, 10:05 PM
Some kind of "steal from" stat. Just one number to keep it simple. There's a simple "steals" stat: steal%. Why not a simple "steal from" stat?

Fold to steal from bb is pretty much what I use. But an ideal measure might include fold to c-bet stats too. Someone who calls a lot of steals pre but folds a lot to c-bets post might be the most profitable one of all to steal from. 3-bet % might come into it too. I'm not sure what the formula would be, but one simple number that indicated the profitability of stealing from someone would be a useful stat.

tommygun
12-23-2008, 03:27 PM
In the Sessions Tab I would like to have Multi table Ratio and Hands per hour.

El Helado
12-23-2008, 03:44 PM
Some kind of "steal from" stat. Just one number to keep it simple. There's a simple "steals" stat: steal%. Why not a simple "steal from" stat?

Fold to steal from bb is pretty much what I use. But an ideal measure might include fold to c-bet stats too. Someone who calls a lot of steals pre but folds a lot to c-bets post might be the most profitable one of all to steal from. 3-bet % might come into it too. I'm not sure what the formula would be, but one simple number that indicated the profitability of stealing from someone would be a useful stat.

It exists, look at the popups :).

Anyways, I 100% agree that 3/4bet BB vs SB-steal etc is required since this is a MAJOR part of FL blind vs blind-play.

Multitablingfactor would be superduper (how many tables played at once).

Self Made
12-24-2008, 09:34 PM
It exists, look at the popups :).

I think you are mistaken.

A bet-sizing stat. Do they bet relatively large or small? I was just looking at a hand where someone was min-betting a straight. Of course some people bluff big but bet small with big hands, so I'm not sure how useful the stat would be.

El Helado
12-25-2008, 08:19 AM
I think you are mistaken.

A bet-sizing stat. Do they bet relatively large or small? I was just looking at a hand where someone was min-betting a straight. Of course some people bluff big but bet small with big hands, so I'm not sure how useful the stat would be.

Im not, you can see how often people steal from CO, BTN, SB and how often people 3bet/call a steal from the blinds.

alllala
12-25-2008, 08:48 PM
what about an overall raise by streets

Self Made
12-25-2008, 09:29 PM
Im not, you can see how often people steal from CO, BTN, SB and how often people 3bet/call a steal from the blinds.

That's not what I suggested.

Self Made
12-25-2008, 09:31 PM
what about an overall raise by streets

Yes, I've been thinking a raise % stat, or something like that, would be useful.

frogmouth
12-26-2008, 08:09 PM
I think a PF stat for how often villians raise/steal vs limpers would be very helpful.

Self Made
12-28-2008, 01:07 AM
Float percent: calls c-bet, bets missed c-bet on turn in position.

Damntra
12-30-2008, 03:01 AM
If we create our own stat, where do we save it?

Is there a tutorial as to how this is done somewhere?

I'd like to see a Showdown winnings BB/100 (blue line I think in graphs) so as to be able to better use the EV BB/100.

Also, when in the Sessions Tab, when grouped by Sessions by Table, I saw that the totals under Stakes is the same as under Hands. Would it be possible instead of having the total number of hands repeated under the Stakes column to instead have the total minutes played for all tables.

For instance, 4 tables were played, each played for 60 minutes, so the total time would be 240 minutes (or 4 hours). That way, you can also keep the total time for the session, in our example, 60 minutes (or 1.00 hrs as it is currently set).

Finally, would it also be possible to see how many tables we played on average in a session?

Using the above example, we'd see we played 240 minutes total for all the tables and divide that by 60 minutes which is how long our session was, therefore, we averaged 4.00 tables.

El Helado
12-30-2008, 10:33 AM
Big bets won (total) would be nice and it shouldnt be very hard to do since you have BB/100.

pLaYa
12-30-2008, 09:29 PM
I thought it'd b pretty cool to be able to see what VPIP/PFR, other players see for you on some kind of pop-up

bibibibi
01-02-2009, 07:02 AM
I'd like to have this stat:

"fold 2barrell in 3 bet pot", in the hud and hud pop up

El Helado
01-09-2009, 11:28 PM
Average stake played and BBs won.

Average stake like if you played 100 hands of 20/40 and 100 hands of 50/100 then ur average stake would be 35/70.

Epus
01-10-2009, 10:59 AM
Two suggestions on filter functions that would be extremely useful:

1) If we could filter for the opponents say vpip, pfr, aggr, and wtsd, we could answer questions like:
"What is my BB/100 for hands where I was raised on the turn by a LAG and called down?" "Raised by a TAG?" "By a loose-passive?" etc

Maybe it could be possible to define opponents stat ranges in appropriate intervalls?

I asked about this a few month ago and was told it would be real some time down the road. Any news on this?

2) To analyse betting patterns, and what they represent, in the games you play it would be great to be able to answer questions like: "What kind of hand is my (LAG, TAG, LP etc)opponent holding when he bet/bet/bet, or cr/bet/bet, or cc/cr/bet?"

To answer this I guess it would be nessesary to scan not only heros hands but ALL villains hands in the database? Would this be possible?

Thanks for your great work!

GreedyGenius
01-10-2009, 07:37 PM
I would like to see an average CBet size compared to pot in %.

Hunter
01-11-2009, 09:13 AM
I'd like to have this stat:

"fold 2barrell in 3 bet pot", in the hud and hud pop up

this

davis25
01-11-2009, 12:45 PM
Party Points

bamski
01-13-2009, 04:21 AM
There is a donk bet stat but can we have a stat where they donk bet and then fold to a raise?

Like "fold donk to raise"

yummy
01-15-2009, 12:40 PM
5bet, 5bet range & fold to 5 bet stats would be very useful in todays aggro 6max games.

Self Made
01-17-2009, 05:06 AM
There's already a Bet UO (IP) stat, but I'd like to be able to add it to the HUD.

El Helado
01-19-2009, 09:51 PM
I want how many 2outers, 3 outers etc when WTSD.

First it felt like a stupid idea but then i realized it is probably a better way to see whether or not u were unlucky or played bad. Like today I lost 150 BBs (FL) and noticed that I had a high WTSD compared to what I usually have but it honestly felt like i hit a lot of hands but then got rivered by people making moron plays and getting lucky.

So stats like that.

IRONTANK444
01-19-2009, 10:23 PM
need 4-bet than fold for all-in...

SeanI
01-19-2009, 10:44 PM
Name says it all.
% of pot bet flop
% of pot bet Turn
% of pot bet river

I'm looking to use it as a color coded condition for fold to raise on each street.

Like Color code Fold to flop raise [condition] %pot bet flop <60=red <75=yellow <inf =green

Like in PT3 Link: http://www.pokertracker.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=11188

Sean

Self Made
01-20-2009, 05:58 PM
Average Saw Flop, as PT calls it. Same as Viewflop % in poker room lobbies. Useful for comparing the looseness of various rooms. VPIP isn't directly comparable with lobby stats.

Self Made
01-20-2009, 06:07 PM
The more I think about it, the more I think bet sizing info would be useful. It's complex, however. Small vs. big hands vs. bluffs, varies by street too.

SeanI
01-20-2009, 06:14 PM
The more I think about it, the more I think bet sizing info would be useful. It's complex, however. Small vs. big hands vs. bluffs, varies by street too.

Poker hound uses this a lot. External stats in tab will show bet size each street, and if it went to showdown, it will tell you what it was: ie Flop bet Small: Underpair Medium: Middle pair/Flush Draw; Hifh: TPTK.

It will also flash % Fold to raise for each street based on bet size.

Sean

Too Bad he doesn't support Bodog.

JayPez
01-22-2009, 01:07 AM
Please can we get one 5bet stat,

vs 5bet fold%

This stat is crucial because it will enable us to know a villians 4bet fold%

JayPez

SeanI
01-22-2009, 01:34 AM
Please can we get one 5bet stat,

vs 5bet fold%

This stat is crucial because it will enable us to know a villians 4bet fold%

JayPez


This is a joke right ?

JayPez
01-22-2009, 05:46 AM
no joke, lots of other people in the thread have asked for a similar stat, its for when people 4bet and then fold to a shove

SeanI
01-22-2009, 07:45 AM
If this is the case where you actually need that stat then preflop bluffing frequency is definitely over the edge.

morny
01-22-2009, 05:03 PM
Not neccessarily its common enough in the 200nl games i play and probably 100nl at this stage. The key is you 4bet small regardless of whether its a hand you call a push with or not because if you 4bet too big then youll have invested so much that you cant fold.

Example at 1/2 i bet 7, villain raises to 24 and i 4bet to 55, assuming i know hell only push with a strong range i can profitably fold, even though its almost a min raise its a huge mistake for the villain to call that bet without a big hand so it can be quite effective vs players that 3bet a wide range

Bubbleblower
01-23-2009, 06:59 AM
All kinds of tournament results like ROI.

That way I can analyse which tournement(structure)s are best suited for me and of course see how much I make (per type). Not only do I want to look at the structure, but also for example at the amount of players, the buy in level and the time of day.

An analysis like that would in my case probably show that I should play full ring freeze outs with slow blinds at medium stakes in a field as big as possible at 5 o'clock in the afternoon. Most important of all it would show what level you should be playing.

Self Made
01-23-2009, 09:54 PM
Fold to raise (after betting) postflop. A useful measure of how bluffable they are, at least with a big enough sample size.

dennisa
01-24-2009, 02:09 PM
Please allow us to select stats on the player summary window. I especially want to see a report with fold sb, fold bb, vpip, pfr, agression, attempt to steal + 3 bet.

Thanks

Hit_or_Miss
01-26-2009, 02:17 PM
Hello

I have seen you have implemented EV into the replayer. Therefore it should be possible to calculate Sklansky Bucks for every Showdown Hand. (For every street of the showdown hand) This would be huge and so much better than the "All In Luck" Graph.

best regards
David Schlager

fraz8000
01-30-2009, 02:15 AM
standard deviation BB/100 statistic for EV-adjusted winrate would be really helpful

alllala
01-30-2009, 05:16 AM
what about an overall raise by streets

This shouldn´t be to hard to add. A comment?

flight2q
01-30-2009, 06:08 AM
standard deviation BB/100 statistic for EV-adjusted winrate would be really helpful

Should be easy to do. Assume you already have

resulthand(i) // $ result for hand i
EVresulthand(i) // EV $ result for hand i
resulthand^2(i) // square of $ result for hand i

from which you computed
Std Dev perhand =
[ Sigma_i resulthand^2(i) - (\Sigma_i resulthand(i) / handcount)^2 ]
/ [ handcount - 1 ]

Hence you could make stat:

EVresulthand^2(i) = EVresulthand(i) ^2

and

EV Std Dev perhand =
[ Sigma_i EVresulthand^2(i) - (\Sigma_i EVresulthand(i) / handcount)^2 ]
/ [ handcount - 1 ]

El Helado
02-18-2009, 09:38 AM
Big Bets won/lost - and not just BB/100 and $ won/lost.

It would be so nice and so easy to make.

Another important thing:

Fold BB vs SB-steal
3bet BB vs SB-steal.

Masterjari
02-20-2009, 08:03 AM
Hello.

As I see it is not possible to create own statistics which I would like to include into my layout.

so i would need the following statistics:
Button 3-bet if Co Openraises
3-Bet after UTG open Raise
3-bet after MP Open Raise
Fold after Resteal from sb+bb
3-bet bb vs sb steal
fold sb to bb resteal
after sb openlimp fold to bb raise
limp raise

thats all for the moment.
thank you in advance

El Helado
02-26-2009, 10:14 AM
Cant u add all of the suggested in the "Formulas for every stat" (http://208.109.95.123/forum/showthread.php?t=3595) that is already calculated out so we at least can add BBs won for example in the system ourselves?

RCold
02-26-2009, 11:44 AM
I would like to see fold to steal stat.

FacePlant the Felt
03-02-2009, 11:13 PM
Would be nice to have in the % of Total hands in the "Hand At Showdown" dropdown

like the last column below

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/8292/miscstats5ao.jpg

Mihas
03-17-2009, 05:09 AM
"Steal from SB/BU/CO when i'm on Blind"
and
"Resteal me when i steal from SB/BU/CO"

would be priceless!!

ffrllc
03-17-2009, 12:51 PM
Fold to cbet in position
Fold to cbet out of position
(HUd+main)

THIS.

Some players will call cbets very light in position while playing very "fit or fold" OOP. Players like this might show "normal" fold to cbet numbers, but could be exposed if we could break it down by in/out of position.


Really like this idea.

ffrllc
03-17-2009, 12:54 PM
New stats (my suggestion is nr 1 on the uservoice btw):

Additional stats:
Rake/100 hands
Rake in BB/100 hands

Truewinrate $= (Winrate + RB%*rake/100 hands)
True winrate BB/100 = BB/100 + RB%*Rake in BB/100)
Hourly salary (numbers of hours played * true winrate$.

Average tables played at once.

Maybe more complicated:
Winrate when 1tabling, 2tabling, 3tabling etc.
Report on $/table/hour on different networks with different rakeback (would be EXTREMLY interesting).

I'd like to see a winrate per 100 hands as well that included rakeback.

ffrllc
03-17-2009, 12:55 PM
float percent: Calls c-bet, bets missed c-bet on turn in position.

This would be VERY helpful !!!!!

El Helado
03-21-2009, 03:18 PM
Bigpots (Put in your own number of BBs) won/lost total played.

WTSD and W$SD is nice but say I noticed a few days where I had pretty decent WTSD/W$SD but I lost like 100 BBs and that was from getting sucked out on 7-10 big pots over 15-30 BBs.

nofolmholdm
03-21-2009, 06:12 PM
I'd love to be able to have HUD stats that described how often people have certain hand values when they raise the turn and flop. Stats like:

% Draw when raise Turn
% 2 Pair + when raise Turn
% No Pair, No Draw when raise Turn

Obviously it would only be for hands that are shown down, but would great help gauge the BS factor of opponents flop and turn raises.

Rhibee
03-21-2009, 06:26 PM
Is there a way to add "Bet River W$SD" and "Raise River W$SD" to the HUD? Positional fold to 3b stat on hud would be great too
Thank you.

mikewvp
03-24-2009, 03:21 AM
Hi,

I would like an Dealt MGR stat please, or even just the code for it as a custom stat. To calculate Dealt MGR is (Total Rake of Hand / # of players at Table), this is done for each hand that a player is dealt in and added up with every hand played.

I would also like Contributed MGR, to calculate this it is (Total Rake of Hand / # of players in the hand). This is only done when the player contributes money to the pot, or conversely this is only counted when the player does not fold preflop AND has not posted a blind.

Thank you!
Mike

alllala
03-24-2009, 11:39 AM
Please add the very important Cold4bet Stat.
At the moment HM doesn´t consider this aktion anywhere else but in the PFR

jhfreestyle
03-27-2009, 11:50 PM
could you add limp/3bet stats, when a player limp, get raised and then 3bet.

thx

ahefe
03-30-2009, 08:58 AM
a couple of "vs small stack" preflop /flop stats would be really nice. I' m thinking of

pre:
RESTEAL vs. SS
3bet vs. SS

flop:
check_raise vs. small-stack
donk vs. small-stack

DyLaK
03-30-2009, 09:28 AM
a couple of "vs small stack" preflop /flop stats would be really nice. I' m thinking of

pre:
RESTEAL vs. SS
3bet vs. SS

flop:
check_raise vs. small-stack
donk vs. small-stack

+1

blackize
04-03-2009, 07:56 PM
Cbet turn in 3bet pot stat would be wonderful

HPR1978
04-11-2009, 12:33 PM
Please add stats for Heads up pot, 3 handed pots and multiway pots(4 and more players).
Both in steal and non-steal situations.
Would be great as players play very differently in those instances.

mocky
04-18-2009, 10:52 PM
Not sure if it has been mentioned but fold sb & bb combined to steal would be useful.

McFly
04-19-2009, 06:53 AM
Don't know if it has already been asked for, but how about

Won @ SD when donkbet river
Won @ SD when cbet river as PFR
Won @ SD when bet river IP

blah1234
04-21-2009, 03:29 AM
I would like to be able to see this stats of collective win/loss by a group of player by position (sb,bb,early,button etc.. please)

to demonstrate I attach a screenshot, with my all input hightlighting the stats I would like you to incorportate in Holdem Manager please. thank you very much!

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/1754/holdemmanagerimprovemen.th.jpg (http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=holdemmanagerimprovemen.jpg)

or direct link here if thumbnail doesnt work http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/1754/holdemmanagerimprovemen.jpg

blah1234
04-22-2009, 08:12 AM
Also, please add rake paid in the default stats report too. Attached is a screenshot to demonstrate my point

Actually on a second thought, why don't you make it possible for us to customise our own report by letting us able to choose which stats to be included and which is not in the report. That should solve a lot of requests that players post on this thread.

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/2497/improvementonhm1.th.jpg (http://img14.imageshack.us/my.php?image=improvementonhm1.jpg)

direct link here http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/2497/improvementonhm1.jpg

Thank you very much.

blah1234
04-23-2009, 03:00 PM
How about add a MAX (amount of hands box) in so that we can filter out the hands more easily too please.

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/1754/holdemmanagerimprovemen.th.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=holdemmanagerimprovemen.jpg)

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/1754/holdemmanagerimprovemen

zzz
04-24-2009, 02:12 PM
I would like to see:
-Turn 3Bet pot CB
-Fold to turn CB 3Bet Pot

tnbishop
04-25-2009, 03:02 AM
a couple of "vs small stack" preflop /flop stats would be really nice. I' m thinking of

pre:
RESTEAL vs. SS
3bet vs. SS

flop:
check_raise vs. small-stack
donk vs. small-stack

I'd like this too

hamburgerhelped
04-25-2009, 11:19 AM
I would like a:

5 bet % and also fold to 5 bet %

Also would like:

If preflop raiser checks, what % of the time does he fold to bet.

Also would like this but it's slightly complicated:

If preflop raiser continuation bets flop and gets called, if he checks turn what % of time does he fold to a bet.

Eclipse86
05-02-2009, 04:02 PM
stats I think are really import and would like to see for HUD usage are:

1. fold bb to a sb steal. (e.g everyone folds to the sb and he raises)

2. 4bet% against a 3bet when opening from btn/co/hj/mp2 (or UTG in a 6max game). You can have 2 stats for each position for when the 3bet is IP or when the 3bet is initiated by a blind (btn would just have it vs a 3bet from the blinds).

3. Raise/fold/call turn bet % after calling down a cb on the flop (raised pot) where the person raising/folding/calling was not the preflop raiser.

4. Raise/fold/call river bet % after calling down a cb on the flop AND another bet on the turn - from the same person who cbet the flop (raised pot) where the person raising/folding/calling was not the preflop raiser.

5. Bet and check/check behind river % after calling down a cbet on the flop AND another bet on the turn from the same person who cbet the flop and having the river being checked to him. We could have this stat for OOP and when IP.

Alcibadies
05-08-2009, 04:29 PM
Is there a custom stat someplace for standard deviation and variance?

red5000
05-10-2009, 02:08 PM
Fold to resteal

tomduke
05-11-2009, 02:42 AM
I've been trying to figure out how to build a stat for a required bankroll calculation.

A poster on 2+2 (phzon) put forth the following calculation:

standard deviation ^ 2 * 4 / win rate

(if standard deviation and win rate are expressed in the same terms, then the term itself doesn't matter. It could be big blinds, big bets or dollars. The '4' is the "comfort level", 4 being very conservative. It could also be 3 or 2 according to the author's theory.)

crd
05-29-2009, 09:04 AM
Hello!

I would be very happy to have following stats implemented :

Continuation bet in position
Continuation bet out of position
Fold to Turn Bet after a "missed CB in position"
Reraise a Turn Bet after a "missed CB in position"
Fold to Flop Bet after a "missed CB out of position"
Reraise a Flop Bet after a "missed CB out of position"

Thanks!

fdwarrior
06-01-2009, 10:55 AM
w$sd river raise vs cbet
w$sd river check/raise vs cbet
w$sd river donk

and it would be nice to have more w$sd stats on different actions

All Apologies
06-02-2009, 07:12 PM
I'm sure where this suggestion could go (sorry if its in the wrong place guys feel free to move it) - but this is helpful especially in LHE.

A Blind battles stat. I've searched 'BvB' and 'Blinds' but couldn't locate anything on it.

TegMiles
06-08-2009, 02:02 PM
haven't read the whole thread, probably somebody already wrote it:
fold to checkraise on flop
would be great

SeanI
06-08-2009, 02:52 PM
BB as an actual number displayed in hud instead of color code for abbname ?

HPR1978
06-11-2009, 05:19 PM
Stats for limped pots in Heads up matches would be awesome.
Example: Villian open limps the button(YEAH! ;-)). How often does he fold to a flop bet or bet if checked to?

mdwexford
06-18-2009, 05:04 PM
Can you make a "fold steal to blind re-raise" stat please.

Also can you make the popup stats customisable so they can be colour co-ordinated by ranges.
ie vpip 0-15 red, 15-25 orange, 25-100 green etc

Also after stat percentages if you could have in brackets the amount times the situation has happened
ie cbet flop 75%, if you could have a (150/200) just so its handier to see exactly how many times its happened

RainmanTrail
06-20-2009, 06:26 AM
I'm sure where this suggestion could go (sorry if its in the wrong place guys feel free to move it) - but this is helpful especially in LHE.

A Blind battles stat. I've searched 'BvB' and 'Blinds' but couldn't locate anything on it.

+1

Grindcore
06-29-2009, 03:05 PM
Could you make a stat for people being staked in cashgames? Kind of like the rakeback you can create to show in the graph, but one that adjusts the actual winnings. For example, my current contract is 65/35 split + 50% rakeback. I'd like a stat or a line in the graph showing my personal profit, adjusted for the split (and if possible also combined with the rakeback). A stat for hourly winrate including rakeback (and if possible stake split + rakeback) would be nice aswell.

Ie, I win 25 buyins at 2/4 and have $10000 profit and 8000 mgr. My personal profit would be $6500 from the split, and $4000 rakeback, totalling $10500.

And while I'm at it, a fold BB to SB steal (and maybe even 3b vs SB steal) would be nice aswell.

storge
07-02-2009, 10:44 AM
I would like to have a "won SD when raise River" information - especially available in the HUD. It should just be accordingly to the "won $ at SD ([when] raise Flop/raise Turn/checkraise Flop/checkraise Turn)". So:

- won $ at SD (raise River)
- won $ at SD (checkraise River)

Also, it would be nice to have the information about "won $ at SD ([when] raise Flop/raise Turn/checkraise Flop/checkraise Turn)" and the two new stats in the reports and not only the HUD.

Thanks a lot in advance :)

zzz
07-04-2009, 07:28 PM
Why there is no 'call 4-bet' and 'raise 4-bet' in HUD popup configuration? :(

yope
07-15-2009, 02:27 PM
A nice stat would be: raise limper, especially in position.

other stat: raise bet (like raise c-bet but then in unraised pots)

Stylite
07-15-2009, 11:30 PM
check/fold flop, turn and river would be a keen set of stats :)

Also check fold turn after c-betting flop, if that's possible

cds0699
07-18-2009, 01:59 PM
Can we get a stat for Full Tilt Points? Like how many full tilt points you have earned.

nofolmholdm
07-19-2009, 06:52 PM
Can we get a stat for Full Tilt Points? Like how many full tilt points you have earned.

&lt;Stat GroupName="Default" ColumnName="Base FTPs" ValueExpressions="Sum(PH.RakeAmount*PH.NumberOfPlayers)/100.000 as BaseFTPsTotal" Evaluate="BaseFTPsTotal" ColumnHeader="FTPs" ColumnFormat="0" ColumnWidth="*" Tooltip="BaseFTPs" /&gt;

&lt;Stat GroupName="Default" ColumnName="Base FTPs/Hand" ValueExpressions="Sum(PH.RakeAmount*PH.NumberOfPlayers)/100.000 as BaseFTPsTotal" Evaluate="BaseFTPsTotal/TotalHands" ColumnHeader="FTPs/H" ColumnFormat="0.00" ColumnWidth="*" Tooltip="BaseFTPs/Hand" /&gt;

cds0699
07-20-2009, 10:01 AM
&lt;Stat GroupName="Default" ColumnName="Base FTPs" ValueExpressions="Sum(PH.RakeAmount*PH.NumberOfPlayers)/100.000 as BaseFTPsTotal" Evaluate="BaseFTPsTotal" ColumnHeader="FTPs" ColumnFormat="0" ColumnWidth="*" Tooltip="BaseFTPs" /&gt;

&lt;Stat GroupName="Default" ColumnName="Base FTPs/Hand" ValueExpressions="Sum(PH.RakeAmount*PH.NumberOfPlayers)/100.000 as BaseFTPsTotal" Evaluate="BaseFTPsTotal/TotalHands" ColumnHeader="FTPs/H" ColumnFormat="0.00" ColumnWidth="*" Tooltip="BaseFTPs/Hand" /&gt;

Tyvm for this, now off to figure out how to put it in :)

nofolmholdm
07-20-2009, 10:30 AM
Tyvm for this, now off to figure out how to put it in :)

Check this out and post if you have any problems:

http://www.holdemmanager.net/faq/?f=44

Note: you may need to create the customstats.txt file that is referred to in this FAQ entry.

cds0699
07-20-2009, 10:41 AM
Check this out and post if you have any problems:

http://www.holdemmanager.net/faq/?f=44

Note: you may need to create the customstats.txt file that is referred to in this FAQ entry.

Ya I do need to create the customstats.txt, god im such a noob lol. Is there anything that tells me how to do that properly? I dont wanna screw it up. Ty, I appreciate the help a ton.

nofolmholdm
07-20-2009, 12:54 PM
Ya I do need to create the customstats.txt, god im such a noob lol. Is there anything that tells me how to do that properly? I dont wanna screw it up. Ty, I appreciate the help a ton.

just a blank text file. You can right click, select New -> Text document.

cds0699
07-20-2009, 01:34 PM
Ty so much, got it done.

drfunke
08-05-2009, 06:54 PM
looking for a combination of two exisiting stats:

Called flop c-bet and Raised Flop c-bet

basically a 'played back at on flop" stat

nofolmholdm
08-05-2009, 07:34 PM
looking for a combination of two exisiting stats:

Called flop c-bet and Raised Flop c-bet

basically a 'played back at on flop" stat

This looks straight forward, but why not just keep fold to cbet stat and know it's 100 minus it.

manny218
08-08-2009, 01:25 PM
How can create new stats that I can put on my pop up config.

manny218
08-08-2009, 01:32 PM
I would like to have a "won SD when raise River" information - especially available in the HUD. It should just be accordingly to the "won $ at SD ([when] raise Flop/raise Turn/checkraise Flop/checkraise Turn)". So:

- won $ at SD (raise River)
- won $ at SD (checkraise River)

Also, it would be nice to have the information about "won $ at SD ([when] raise Flop/raise Turn/checkraise Flop/checkraise Turn)" and the two new stats in the reports and not only the HUD.

Thanks a lot in advance :)


Yes these stats are very important. would also like to see won shwdn when bet river in and oop, bet river when checked too, call river % overall raise river % overall and fold river % overall

fiammaz
08-08-2009, 03:47 PM
custom stats like pt3

skelm
08-14-2009, 03:58 PM
The ability to list your hourly including rakeback or to view an hourly rakeback amount.

Self Made
08-16-2009, 05:36 PM
Have they added customs stats in the HUD yet? If not, why can't I find it on the suggestion site? I thought that was one of the top suggestions.

aasi
08-19-2009, 02:13 PM
Truewinrate $
True winrate BB/100
Hourly salary


The above plus a "True $" stat (the current "$" + rakeback + bonuses) is what I wanted to suggest.

I've added my different rakeback percentages and all the bonuses I've cleared in the Rakeback and Bonuses window, so I can see my real winnings in the Graphs tab. Still, it'd be quite useful to have "True $" and "True BB/100" (the latter would need to exclude bonuses, I guess) available in the By Stakes and Winnings Summary reports.

Ron200
08-22-2009, 06:11 PM
stat that shows how much $/hand you made. like 2500 hands +$200 so $/hand is .08 . would be greatly appreciated. $/hr is not really that relavent because sometimes you might be playing 2 tables or 4 tables or 8 tables, etc.
whats more important is $/hand. and make it .083 form to show 8.3 cents. I mean if your playing a big game, not much difference between $1.24/hand and $1.25/hand but for smaller games big difference between .023/hand and .029/hand. Thanks.

Botmac
08-23-2009, 03:49 PM
I'm looking for a stat I guess that I can see in the reports or a filter to see my flop %. Like if I open a reports tab say,overall I would like to see out of all the hands I played what the % of hitting one of my hole cards is, like 20% of the time I hit the flop. And maybe the turn and river as individual stats as well. I hope I explained this properly. I don't have the experiance to make it my self, but if somebody can give me a formula, I can give it a shot.Thanks for your time.

Klaudioz
08-23-2009, 09:14 PM
check/call
check fold
IP or OOP in flop, turn, river for HUD please

Gig
08-27-2009, 05:10 PM
A nice stat would be: raise limper, ...



+1, i'm looking forward to that stat as well.

pacosantosm
09-04-2009, 04:33 AM
True Win rate, true winrate (BB/100), (BB/hour)
True$ TStat, TRue BB/100, are neccesary

to I need "Saw turn when saw flop %", "Saw river when saw turn" IN HUD.
They are in Reports but no IN HUD.
Thank you

fizzbin
09-05-2009, 04:54 AM
I suggested that a couple of months ago under "algebra editor for extended HUD statistics", and the only person to respond (41 actually read it) was Fozzy.

I think it would be ideal. Granted, there are many stats already included, but customized stats via an algebra editor would be ideal!

fizzbin
09-05-2009, 04:59 AM
I suggested that a couple of months ago under "algebra editor for extended HUD statistics", and the only person to respond (41 actually read it) was Fozzy.

I think it would be ideal. Granted, there are many stats already included, but customized stats via an algebra editor would be ideal!

...

sorry I meant about the custom stats... forgot to quote...

desperadogm
09-13-2009, 09:58 AM
i would really like to see W$WoSD stat to be available in the pop-ups. Not sure why its missing as most other similar stuff is covered and the stat is available in the reports tab.

FWIW i think this is quite an important stat providing insight into other regs game.

MegaDisgruntled
09-14-2009, 10:35 AM
true win rate, true winrate (bb/100), (bb/hour)
true$ tstat, true bb/100, are neccesary

to i need "saw turn when saw flop %", "saw river when saw turn" in hud.
They are in reports but no in hud.
Thank you

omg, please!!!!!!!

lovetoplaypoker
09-18-2009, 03:35 AM
low draw filter likes 2nd nut low draw, nut low draw? (this is not a stat)

scoop%, split%, quarter%, sixth% (when we go to showdown) for split pot games likes omaha 8b limit, and PLO8.

thanks

Andrey
09-24-2009, 01:29 PM
I need one more stat - bet vs missed river bet. That is extremely important stat but unfortunately I can not find it. I see only bet vs river cbet, but that is a little different stat.

matthiasmaze
09-24-2009, 10:33 PM
check/call
check fold
IP or OOP in flop, turn, river for HUD please


I also like Check Fold on the Flop.
(How many times the PFR Folds when he checks the Flop to me or rather he miss the Conti-Bet)

I think thats was a very good feature :)

uofi2012
09-25-2009, 04:28 AM
Is there already, or can someone make a stat for F,C,R vs steal from SB, as BB?
I get into a lot of BvB situations, and these would be very helpful, imo.

Thanks!

Andrey
09-25-2009, 05:19 AM
there are those stats in HM. Fold to steal for sure exists, just look carefully, Call you don't need, because you can have Fold and Raise,but you still can understand it from VPIP from sb and BB or cold call from from Sb or BB.

For Raise you can use raise from BB stat or there is the stat Raise vs open_BB.

Anyway there are many stats in the section VS, you could find it helpful for youru case.

uofi2012
09-25-2009, 05:35 AM
I am talking about situations strictly between the two blinds. The steal stats include the BTN and CO, which are also useful, but different.

Thanks

Andrey
09-25-2009, 05:51 AM
look in the section with VS stats, but actually that does not change a lot, people don't enlarge their parameters so much, you just have to understand that BB is more loose VS Sb because you play position, SB is the worst place on the table and is not recommended to play at all ) So actually of course much more importants are the stats corresponding actions of blids VS CO an Btn, where you can make money.

Anyway go HUD OPTIONS-Table preferences you'll probably find something that would fit your needs

uofi2012
09-25-2009, 12:49 PM
It is different in SNG's and the table filter wouldn't fit my needs I'm pretty sure. I am pretty competent when it comes to these situations, I'd really just like the stats.

Thanks

kz282
09-26-2009, 06:09 AM
low draw filter likes 2nd nut low draw, nut low draw? (this is not a stat)

scoop%, split%, quarter%, sixth% (when we go to showdown) for split pot games likes omaha 8b limit, and PLO8.

thanks

Are there any plans to include these stats in 1.09?

cardplayer52
10-04-2009, 02:54 AM
- Donkbet, then fold to a raise (% of the time a player donkbet and then fold if he's raised on the flop) (in hud too)

- Abbreviation name with the choice of the 3, 5 or 8 first name's letters (instead of only 8 letters for the moment)
Example : a player called "pokermanlobo"
we can choose to display the abbreviation name as "pok", "poker" or "pokerman"
In general i don't need to have 8 letters of the abbreviatioon name, that's too much
That is for the hud of course

^this



i noticed you have "m" is there any chance of just adding BBs?
and average size of cbet(as a % of pot size)eg av.cbet% = 100% or av.cbet% = 60% etc.

BastiDdorf
10-05-2009, 09:26 AM
Won $ at SD when donk f/t/r
Won $ at SD when c/r river
Won $ at SD when raise river

couriermike
10-05-2009, 11:57 AM
bb's left in stack, please!

(Adding M for tournaments was great, but for SnG's it would be awesome to have bb's, too. Thanks!)

mickyb
10-06-2009, 07:34 PM
Sorry if this has already been suggested, but

Std Dev of All-in EV

TheZepper
10-06-2009, 11:39 PM
How about a stat in addition to phmisc.stacksize and phmisc.effectivestacksize (I call it Q-Stack for qualifying stack) that shows the "effective" stack size for any players remaining in the hand AFTER the BB has played. For example, Hero on BTN attempts to steal and is 3Bet by SB; BB (who has the largest stack) folds.

The Q-Stack would then be the smaller of the BTN and SB stackssizes. The concept also carries over to any opponents that see the flop, turn or river.

I can back into this number if hand reaches SD, but when Villain folds, I can't find a way to determine his stack size.

Thanks

Dredok
10-08-2009, 04:25 AM
total rake paid when winning hands.

I mean, you win and the TOTAL rake taken out the hand is 1$ I want to display this 1$ not just my contribution. And I want to take into account just the hands I win.

Dunno if this does exists but atm I havent found it :p

NeX
10-08-2009, 07:17 PM
I would like to have a 2barrel stat for a 3bet pot (like cbetting flop and cbetting turn)

Lunatic973
10-09-2009, 09:03 PM
I've seen a few requests on here for it, but I have't seen anything done for it. The stat I'm looking for is Donk Bet Flop in 3Bet Pot.

lihan
10-13-2009, 06:21 PM
dunno if this has been mentioned yet, but 3bet in position % and 3b OOP %

Jin-Roh
10-14-2009, 03:14 PM
hey guys great programm

Today I´ve noticed that I cant put more than 64 stats in my HUD
New lines and panels also count in so its very easy to have 64 "stats" in your HUD you really need to increase this to 100 or more as soon as possible.
when one is 8-12 tabling or even more its not possible to use pop-ups.

I´ve already posted a suggestion but it can take years to have enough votes.



So PLEASE do this as soon as possible. we really need this

( and btw C-bet in an out of position (for all streets) would be great and C-bet in multi-way pots also cool )


(and an option in the player preferences to insert space in adition to the new panel and new line option so that one can more customize the panels )
(and maybe a horizontal line option for the panels :) )

(oh "call donk bet" (raised pot) is missing )
(and as somebody mentioned before "turn (and river) 3Bet Pot CB" also missing)

thx in advance

dhluo8
10-15-2009, 05:03 AM
won $ at showdown (river raised)
won $ at showdown (river bet)
3B on the flop
3B on the turn
3B on the river

Reason
10-15-2009, 08:30 PM
I've seen a few requests on here for it, but I have't seen anything done for it. The stat I'm looking for is Donk Bet Flop in 3Bet Pot.

By this I presume you mean betting IP after the 3-bettor checks? Because a bet from the 3-bettor isn't a donk bet, it's a c-bet.

Colin252
10-15-2009, 09:50 PM
A few stats detailing the blinds fold/call/3bet stats, particular to where the raise is coming from would be AMAZING. ie, bb folds 65% when facing a sb steal, or sb 3 bets 11% when facing a btn open but only 3 bets 3% when facing an EP open. This would just be fantastic information on pinning down peoples ranges.

Lunatic973
10-16-2009, 01:35 PM
By this I presume you mean betting IP after the 3-bettor checks? Because a bet from the 3-bettor isn't a donk bet, it's a c-bet.

No that's not what I meant. I meant there's a raise in front of you, you 3Bet from BU, original raiser flats and leads the flop. That would be donk betting flop in a 3Bet pot.

petteriiiiii
10-17-2009, 05:26 PM
money won on specific weekday
Time filters (to see how mutch i make money in morning or at night)

fiammaz
10-19-2009, 09:06 AM
Any chance we'll see a custom stats exact like PT3?
This will allow the players to improve HM, and programmers could focus on other stuff

nofolmholdm
10-19-2009, 10:21 AM
Any chance we'll see a custom stats exact like PT3?
This will allow the players to improve HM, and programmers could focus on other stuff

You can create custom stats and reports already. See: http://www.holdemmanager.net/faq/?f=44

The missing component is that you can't put custom stats in the HUD. That is something that I feel would be of HUGE value. If you agree give the idea some votes here:

http://holdemmanager.uservoice.com/pages/5307-holdem-manger-suggestions/suggestions/355617-enable-adding-custom-stats-to-the-hud-?ref=title

fiammaz
10-19-2009, 11:48 AM
You can create custom stats and reports already. See: http://www.holdemmanager.net/faq/?f=44

The missing component is that you can't put custom stats in the HUD. That is something that I feel would be of HUGE value. If you agree give the idea some votes here:

http://holdemmanager.uservoice.com/pages/5307-holdem-manger-suggestions/suggestions/355617-enable-adding-custom-stats-to-the-hud-?ref=title

mmmmm no... Ii isn't like PT3...

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/6646/pt3exp.th.png (http://img12.imageshack.us/i/pt3exp.png/)

Here I can modify anything...

fish888
10-22-2009, 06:34 PM
Won$ % when bet river

notapaedo
10-26-2009, 10:54 AM
When you think about it the 'Vs Steal' HUD numbers aren't particularly useful because steal includes CO BTN and SB, and most people are going to play completely different vs SB.

I think the best way to solve this is to make the popup like this:

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/3033/vsteal.jpg

Where LP is steal from LP (CO/BTN).

Would it be possible to separate the stats in such a way?

Adding the corresponding F4B stats for each column would be the icing on the cake.

mamba
11-01-2009, 04:25 AM
Is there something like AsPFR_cbetFlop_c/f_turn, which would indicate the "floatability" of the opponent?

Zipper
11-08-2009, 01:21 PM
I would like to suggest a rather basic one that you've overlooked.

Big Blinds stats.

This would be quite useful for us sng guys since most jam/fold tables are in BBs and sometimes it's not that easy estimating the exact number of blinds (to the 1st decimal for instance if we want to always push correctly) especially while 15-20 tabling. So having the ability to just look at the number is very helpful. I know we have the tourney M stats which is quite similar and possibly more accurate but it doesn't do the trick for us.

Thanks.

dqmien
11-09-2009, 04:37 AM
Add a stat that show how often vilain raise when there is one or more limper(s) please.

dqmien
11-09-2009, 04:38 AM
I would like to suggest a rather basic one that you've overlooked.

Big Blinds stats.

This would be quite useful for us sng guys since most jam/fold tables are in BBs and sometimes it's not that easy estimating the exact number of blinds (to the 1st decimal for instance if we want to always push correctly) especially while 15-20 tabling. So having the ability to just look at the number is very helpful. I know we have the tourney M stats which is quite similar and possibly more accurate but it doesn't do the trick for us.

Thanks.

Pokershortcuts can do this.

Zipper
11-09-2009, 07:41 AM
Pokershortcuts can do this.

Thanks dqmien I will use this till HM adds it. It would be great if they add this soon and HM becomes the best all-in-one product out there.

hredunos
11-10-2009, 12:26 PM
CB turn - 3b pot
Foldt to CB turn - 3b pot
fold to 5bet

sebalpda
11-10-2009, 05:36 PM
Hi, i want a stat that shows the average pfr size of a villain by positions. I mean, if i know that from button a villain pfr size is like 3.10bb, i would know he most likely raise 3bb, but also, sometimes, 3.5bb or maybe 4bb.

This can be very usefull as I frequently see players that raise more bb with TT+ AK+ or sth like that.

Thanks!

mckrogh
11-13-2009, 04:39 AM
I want a stat for STACKSIZE... So I can stacksize in my hud...

Then it would be possibel to set the stats over the players name..

Would be a big help!

joemomma
11-14-2009, 02:06 PM
You need to add "flop cbet in 3bet pots" and "fold vs flop cbet in 3bet pots" to the stats you can add under the reports tab and not just under HUD stats.

please and thank you!!!

cardplayer52
11-14-2009, 06:05 PM
I'd like a stat on how often the BB calls a SB's raise.

The Minder
11-17-2009, 06:23 AM
Bump with a question. Are the developers actually looking at this thread, and have any of the requests/suggestions been implemented?

Zografa
11-22-2009, 07:23 AM
very important stats - cbet turn in 3bet pots

Alexis Bledel
11-22-2009, 08:26 PM
Cross Post

----

I've had a search of this thread but haven't found what I'm looking for (apologies if I'm going blind). I'm looking for a stat or someone to make a stat that gives you your overall hourly rate including rakeback. So it will look like something like this i imagine;

Net Amount Won + Rakeback / Hours Played = ??????????

Is there anyway of doing this, or making this stat, any help is greatly appreciated.

boblawblaw1
11-25-2009, 01:04 PM
I think a great stat, that in my opinion would be better than agg, would be

stat = (raise+call)/(check+fold)

This to me is a much better stat for how aggressive a person is. Therefore someone who always calls and raises, ie a lag, would have a very high stat and someone who always folds and checks, ie a mouse, would have a very low stat

shahrad
12-01-2009, 04:16 AM
I think a great stat, that in my opinion would be better than agg, would be

stat = (raise+call)/(check+fold)

This to me is a much better stat for how aggressive a person is. Therefore someone who always calls and raises, ie a lag, would have a very high stat and someone who always folds and checks, ie a mouse, would have a very low stat

This has a problem just like the way Agg Frequency seems to be calculated right now. The Problem is that Check Raise doesn't count as aggression, cause it brings checks higher and raises higher. A checkraise should be calculated only as a raise and not as a check + raise!!!!
The stat you want is actually there, you have only to look at Agg Factor and Agg Frequency, a high Agg Freq with a low Agg Fact means: He bets and calls a lot. A low Agg Freq and a high Agg Fac means he plays hit or fold.

shahrad
12-01-2009, 04:40 AM
3 bet pots are becoming more and more common especially in PLO (I think in Holdem it is the case too). There are now ppl with 20% and more 3 betting frequency.
1) Donk bet 3 bet pot. (Raised, called, folded to Donk bet 3 bet pot)
2) Agg Frequency and Agg Factor in 3 bet pots.
3) Bet vs. missed Cbet 3 bet pot.
4) Cbet IN and OOP 3 bet pot.

It would be really helpful (at least for PLO) to have fast access to two really important stats either through pop up or through Active Players detailed window: river call efficiency and Avg. Preflop, Flop, Turn Allin ev. (This stats are needed for 3 bet pots too).

A stat for delayed cbets.

The stat selection for Autorate players are very poor. Agg Freq pre and postflop are at least very important and should be added as soon as possible. And there should be only easy to remember Icons.

Filtering hole cards for PLO is not so good. The system Pokertracker uses, is much better, although it lacks filtering flush cards.

Add-on: Please Prefetch for ongame!

Nevertheless I have been using Pokeroffice and PT, but Holdemmanager is way ahead and I thank you for the very good job that you are doing and as long as you keep the level of your work very high, you will not lose me as a thankful costumer.

Rvg72
12-01-2009, 12:20 PM
This has a problem just like the way Agg Frequency seems to be calculated right now. The Problem is that Check Raise doesn't count as aggression, cause it brings checks higher and raises higher. A checkraise should be calculated only as a raise and not as a check + raise!!!!
The stat you want is actually there, you have only to look at Agg Factor and Agg Frequency, a high Agg Freq with a low Agg Fact means: He bets and calls a lot. A low Agg Freq and a high Agg Fac means he plays hit or fold.

Aggression Frequency looks at a street and decides if it is passive or aggressive so a check raise is aggressive. For example, a player check raises the flop (aggressive), bets the turn (aggressive), checks the river (passive) would have an aggression frequency of 2/3 = 67%

Roy

Rvg72
12-01-2009, 12:21 PM
Bump with a question. Are the developers actually looking at this thread, and have any of the requests/suggestions been implemented?

We implemented a lot of them in a previous build and will aim for 1.11 or 1.12 to add more. We'll also be adding the ability to use custom stats in the hud in the one of the next two major builds following 1.10

Roy

Arizona Willie
12-01-2009, 04:16 PM
In looking through the stats available for Reports I found the stat for Won Hands % .... it would be nice to also have a lost hands % and perhaps a ratio of Won% to Lost %.

Lost hands % isn't simply 100 less the Won hands % because we fold so many hands and don't participate in them. Only hands we participate in should be counted as lost if we didn't win it.

DONNYBOY
12-02-2009, 06:17 PM
I think a stat for Won % Without Showdown would be a very good stat, and indicator of style of opponents' play.

Would also like to see an option of putting a stat for the % of time a player folds to a C bet after limp/calling pre-flop.

poker nuuuts
12-06-2009, 02:02 AM
How about big blinds for tourney players? I'm not sure how M got added but this got left out?

Riddlah
12-06-2009, 09:17 AM
Hello

I would like have in my holdem manager stat, which is showing my stack size in big blinds mine and my oponents.

It may be usefull for tournament players.

Thanx you
Riddlah

shahrad
12-16-2009, 01:50 PM
Will you ever add some more stats to the HUD and POP UP ? I miss for example: fold to 3b vs Raise CB.

Lucky Stiff
12-20-2009, 01:36 PM
Aggression Frequency for each street and total postflop. (bets+raises)/(bets+raises+calls+folds)

This request was originally made in October '08 by several people and has continuously been ignored. Notwithstanding the fact that the developers do not like the stat, there are many of us who understand why it is preferable to the Aggression Factor or Aggression % stats you seem to prefer. It is a simple thing to add and I think--after years of pleading--would finally be done. The HUD is littered with stats which range from redundant to useless. This one is unique, useful and elegant. Please, please, please add Aggression Frequency as calculated above. Thank you.

Zsolesz
12-22-2009, 07:28 AM
Hi!

It would be nice to have these on the flop and turn as well!

Thanx!

Zs

schummlalala
12-23-2009, 09:01 AM
I'd like to see an update on the PokerStars Stats, as they just introduced their new system for 2010 and I would like to see where I would stand next year. If it would include

- Stellar bonuses
- Monthly VIP Levels
- VPPs/ FPPs

I would be sooo happy. :)

ACTIONFREAK
12-23-2009, 03:36 PM
A stat that has the new calculation for VPPs would be good enough for now. Can someone post how to do this?

bballwiz
12-26-2009, 07:55 PM
Is there a way for there to be a stat that analyzes bet sizes? For instance it groups hands where someone bets 2.5x compared to 3x, and post flop when someone bets half pot 2/3 pot and full pot etc?

SnappyFish
12-29-2009, 06:29 PM
The above plus a "True $" stat (the current "$" + rakeback + bonuses) is what I wanted to suggest.

I've added my different rakeback percentages and all the bonuses I've cleared in the Rakeback and Bonuses window, so I can see my real winnings in the Graphs tab. Still, it'd be quite useful to have "True $" and "True BB/100" (the latter would need to exclude bonuses, I guess) available in the By Stakes and Winnings Summary reports.

+ 10 for
Hourly Salary (bb/100 + RB + Bonuses)

gypsysuicide
12-29-2009, 07:42 PM
what is VPIP?

and is there a place that i can find all the abreviations?

Thank You

_Loki_
12-29-2009, 09:54 PM
Hi Suicide

RTFM (Google those four letters) :)

In another post yesterday I suggested that you downloaded the MANUAL
You will find a definition of all the stats at the end of the MANUAL starting at page 169
You can download the MANUAL at...
http://www.holdemmanager.com/downloads/HoldemManagerManual.pdf

VPIP
Voluntarily Put $ In Pot, The SB and BB postings are not voluntary unless they add more money eg SB calling or BB calling or raising

cds0699
12-29-2009, 10:02 PM
Is there any way someone can make a custom stat that calculates the new Pokerstars vpp rates (both FR and 6 max cash) with the new changes for 2010? Would be so much appreciated.

kimsen
12-30-2009, 12:32 PM
won $ raised river
won $ checkraised river

colossk
12-30-2009, 10:32 PM
calling 3 bets in position vs out of position

Stack Stacker
01-03-2010, 06:27 PM
Can you Please, Please... PLEASE add these 2 stats in the next upgrade:

Fold To Flop Check Raise, and

Fold to Turn Check Raise.

Thank you from all us HU Players!!!!

***NOTE: I'm talking about in the Cash Game/Report menu AND in the HU Display!***

jjyykk
01-09-2010, 02:26 PM
Is there (or does it exist already) a way to see how often a player is pushing all in from the button or the SB for SNG players?

Edmuntus
01-09-2010, 04:13 PM
Raise 4 Bet and Fold to 5bet would be nice

limpshove
01-10-2010, 04:24 PM
Add different labels or colors to mark hands and display them in a pulldown menu as checkboxes. This way you can mark multiple types of hands, available for multiple review sessions.

Gnome XXL
01-10-2010, 06:12 PM
Is there any way someone can make a custom stat that calculates the new Pokerstars vpp rates (both FR and 6 max cash) with the new changes for 2010? Would be so much appreciated.

+1.

I am downloading 1.10 Beta 6 to see if this is included.

netsrak
01-11-2010, 08:08 AM
The new Stars VPP is in Beta 7 which was released some hours ago.

xuehata
01-15-2010, 07:49 AM
Hi,

My request is simple, is it possible to be add player rake based on the hand?

I mean for each hand to have column for the taken rake from the player.

foxten
01-15-2010, 12:36 PM
I'd like a stat that I can see ALL hands that were shown down in an entire session. Not just hands that went to showdown by the currently selected player

netsrak
01-16-2010, 08:36 AM
Hi,

My request is simple, is it possible to be add player rake based on the hand?

I mean for each hand to have column for the taken rake from the player.

Its the rake column in the database. If you look/search in our custom reports section you should find some reports containing it.

http://forums.holdemmanager.com/forumdisplay.php?f=10


@foxten: i'm not sure but i think Holdem Vision should be able to display this.

Dredok
01-16-2010, 05:56 PM
Fold Big Blind against Stealer heads up.

Ie, filtering the BBFTS just against the SB

cyzo
01-17-2010, 12:13 PM
In the hands view for SNG's there is the $EV Diff that measures how good/bad your all-in luck was.
It would be great if there was delta EV stat that displayed the difference between your "Start EV" (from the first column of the first table in the hand replayer) and your "EV" (from the first column of the second table in the hand replayer). That way, you can see which hands were good or bad for your overall ev instead of just seeing chip ev and the luck difference. This could be added to the hands view, the reports view as a stat, or both.

Ajax
01-18-2010, 05:19 AM
I would really like to put more than 64 stats on my HUD. I currently have the HUD completely full, but I still need to put some more postflop information into it. In order for me to do that, I would have to knock out some other stats... but I want to keep those stats there too.

Would it be possible to increase the max number allowed stats? It is currently at 64, and 128 I guess would be the next step up. Even putting the limit at 96 would make a big difference for me.

The other thing I would need is the ability to put a stat into the HUD more than one time. It is already possible to do this with pop-ups, but I need to do it in the HUD.

JayPez
01-18-2010, 08:49 AM
Please can we have the following stats added for hud capability

Fold BB to SB raise
Raise 4 bet
Fold to 5 bet

canfron
01-18-2010, 12:38 PM
Personal stats. I mean I want to know the VPIP*3bet+cbet turn (no sense this example, obviouly), or data like 3bet vs shortstack.

I think filtered data would be a great advance.

Ajax
01-18-2010, 06:04 PM
hey guys great programm

Today I´ve noticed that I cant put more than 64 stats in my HUD
New lines and panels also count in so its very easy to have 64 "stats" in your HUD you really need to increase this to 100 or more as soon as possible.
when one is 8-12 tabling or even more its not possible to use pop-ups.

I´ve already posted a suggestion but it can take years to have enough votes.



So PLEASE do this as soon as possible. we really need this


I agree. I want to put more than 64 stats in my HUD. Also, I want to be able to put a stat in twice.

douwevh
01-19-2010, 01:30 PM
Prefered seat for ipoker network!

Dodgyrocker
01-19-2010, 07:31 PM
BB call SB steal attempt
BB fold to SB steal attempt

Radionut
01-20-2010, 02:24 PM
It would be useful (at least for me) to introduce 2 following options:

1) Ability to choose displayibg stats for last n hands at exact table. (it's useful in tournaments, when fish tighten up, and TAGs start stealing much or at cash table when playing aganst semi-LAG regs, whose looseness is tabledependant)

2) In "Active players details window" it would be useful to be able to see your stats against any opponent (to get an idea, how do the regs-multitablers perceive you)

P.S. thanks for HM, it's really awesome

La Peste
01-20-2010, 07:55 PM
Would like to have a separate tab for analyzing personal data including:

Risk of ruin, based on: winrate, standard deviation, expected hour played and bankroll. Also to have the option to have it be a living bankroll, giving expected monthly nut.

Longest win/losing streak by days/sessions

Biggest upswing/downswing in Big Bets

Longest plateau

Best/worst day/month/year

winning/losing streaks in days/months/years

winrate by day of the week/and by night or day session and winrate based on short/medium or long session

hours played per day/week/month/year

Daily win %

Big win/loss %

And other stuff such as this. Would be great if you can filter all of this stuff by stakes, gamtype, etc. Conjelco has a product called staking, that has a lot of this kind of stuff. Makes for a lot of fun playing around with the stats, and it would work great attached to your HEM database.

chasman21
01-21-2010, 09:44 AM
I'm a new user, so please forgive me if this is a stupid point. I'd like to determine the average steal for all my players. I don't see a way to add new statistics to my players reports. Would you consider adding an option similar to the reports tab option to add stats to the players reports?

Any idea on what an average 6max micro steal stat might be?

acecatcher26
01-21-2010, 03:36 PM
I would like to see allin equity for sngs and mtts or at least some numbers for how often u win when ur allin with the best hand etc.

bazclef
01-22-2010, 12:55 AM
I'd like stats to show 4bet success from each 6m position please.

Ajax
01-22-2010, 06:44 AM
Raise 4 Bet and Fold to 5bet would be nice

Raise 4 Bet, Fold to 5 bet, and Call 4 Bet too.

The Minder
01-22-2010, 08:15 PM
I would like to see allin equity for sngs and mtts or at least some numbers for how often u win when ur allin with the best hand etc.

+1

Although I doubt many ring game players (HM developers?) understand the importance of this stat. Pokertraker 3 has a report that gives this stat and it is immensely useful.

jimbob615
01-24-2010, 07:29 AM
PLEASE add to HUD:

Fold BB to SB steal
Fold to 5Bet

and absolutely critically important:

how often someone raises in MP, CO and BTN when facing limpers (aka how often someone "isos")

its a hugely variating stat which can be completely different for similar VPIP/PFR players

this can be found on the Active Players window... really important stat which needs to be more accessible as a HUD stat

Dodgyrocker
01-24-2010, 08:29 PM
Not EXACTLY a stats request... but sort of.

Would it be possible to include in the HUD the ability to see the range of 'known hands' villain had called with, raised with, 3bet with, called 3bets with etc etc (i.e. just like in the active player window thing, but on a popup on the HUD instead)?

I think this would be really popular and super useful

I remember seeing on 2+2 that someone had designed their own HUD for PT3 that included this info, so I am sure this is possible in HEM.

jimbob615
01-25-2010, 02:50 AM
Not EXACTLY a stats request... but sort of.

Would it be possible to include in the HUD the ability to see the range of 'known hands' villain had called with, raised with, 3bet with, called 3bets with etc etc (i.e. just like in the active player window thing, but on a popup on the HUD instead)?

I think this would be really popular and super useful

I remember seeing on 2+2 that someone had designed their own HUD for PT3 that included this info, so I am sure this is possible in HEM.

mate u can already kinda do this with the active players window, is that what ur looking for?

Dodgyrocker
01-25-2010, 10:25 AM
mate u can already kinda do this with the active players window, is that what ur looking for?

Well, yes and no. I was meaning is it possible to have the same sort of thing that is possible in the active player window viewable in the HUD as well?

Ajax
01-28-2010, 01:07 AM
Well, yes and no. I was meaning is it possible to have the same sort of thing that is possible in the active player window viewable in the HUD as well?

I have a possible solution, if it can be done. When your mouse hovers over a point on the HUD for a player, the Active Players Details window will "pop up" with that player selected. Would that work for you?

rafi
01-31-2010, 02:28 PM
How about a 'Saw Flop %' stat? I think it would be fairly useful

bballwiz
01-31-2010, 07:45 PM
Is there a way to compare donk leads of all players?

B-Money
02-02-2010, 02:10 PM
Thanks for all the ideas guys.

We've been fairly busy with new features inside of Holdem Manager and I've been busy with FAQ's and the new website. Hopefully things will settle down soon and I'll have a chance to go through this thread properly and get a hit list together for Programming.

-B

_Loki_
02-02-2010, 02:44 PM
You are back soon - break a leg or something :)

The Minder
02-02-2010, 09:10 PM
You are back soon - break a leg or something :)

Snow bunnies were driving him mad... want want want :)

couriermike
02-04-2010, 11:32 AM
Thanks for adding the '# big blinds' stat. It's really helpful. Thanks.

lickyfeet
02-05-2010, 06:57 AM
I believe one of the most valuable stats that could be added was $won with showdown winnings and $won with nonshowdown winnings. This would be hugely profitable. Knowing how aggressive or ABC or opponent is and whether or not we can get him off a hand would be one of the strongest stats on the HUD.

That's my suggestion.

Thanks

mindas
02-08-2010, 09:05 PM
Hello,

I lack this stats on HEM

1. limper's range; you have limp reraise range but not limp range at preflop cards tab; I dont see away to get that limpers range
2. Image for particular oponent(stats in the eyes of oponent)
I look at stats of my oponent and would like to see what stats he has on me based on the hands we played; then I can decide if he regards me as a TAG, Maniac (if I was on tilt that session), a rock or other;

3. I am BB and hands were folded to me; (I select my position BB , pot unopenned but dont see any hand or statistics (I need to compare Blinds battle results when I am in BB with when it is folded to BB.

Can you help me with these problems?

regards,

Mindis

Wally
02-09-2010, 02:34 AM
The most valuable would be to add a custom stat function so people can write there own stats with the ability to add to HUD.

For me this is the most important functionality of HM currently missing.

If you added this - you could have a custom stat section in the forum where users post there custom stats for others to use, and thus you wouldnt really need to perodically add new stats.

Stats id really like to see are -

Fold BB to SB steal
5bet stats
Fold to Check Raise stats by street

Jin-Roh
02-10-2010, 09:07 AM
hello guys,


very good new stats in the last updates.


but when will u finally remove the 64 stats maximum ?

Im talking with u about this problem for months.


U created such a great programm, please remove the 64 stat barrier.

I dont understand why u arent doing this.


regards

acnjcrabby1
02-11-2010, 08:32 PM
I haven't read every post in this thread yet, but how about an "all in", "AIPF" or "open shove" stat for tourney players......
The "went to showdown" and "won at showdown" stats are great, but specifically for small stakes rebuys, it'd be great to know how often playerX has been all in (specifically pre-flop)......
It's tough to keep track of all the (as I say in my notes) R&Atards when multi-tabling rebuys.

abetteridea
02-14-2010, 10:44 PM
I have just downloaded the 1.10.02 and it made me register on the forum :) (updated from 1.09). WOW! Everything looks AMAZING.

Still missing Turn/River 3Bet Pot CB though...

I've seen this discussion back in September:
http://forums.holdemmanager.com/hud-general/16083-double-barrel-3bet-pots-turn-cbet.html

Any plans to include "Turn/River 3Bet Pot CB" in the future?

This is a much needed stat in today's HU games.

Hit_or_Miss
02-15-2010, 03:16 AM
Please let us have a SEcT graph (aka Sklansky bucks).
I do not care how much you think that this is not a useful stat, no one is forced to use it.
Since you have all data available already (Replayer shows Equity), it shouldn´t be that much work