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Koxx
09-27-2010, 02:29 PM
It appears that HEM ignores known dead (folded) cards while making EV calculations.


Hold'Em Manager Poker Tracking and Analysis Software (http://www.holdemmanager.net)
NL Holdem $4(BB) Replayer Game#287713462

slam160 ($400)
fabredraw ($422)
tatjaana89 ($1,033)
teh_pokerrrz ($406)
samer33 ($119)
mrpaddington ($400)

slam160 posts (SB) $2
fabredraw posts (BB) $4

Dealt to teh_pokerrrz Jc Js
fold,
teh_pokerrrz raises to $12
samer33 raises to $36
fold, fold,
fabredraw calls $32
fold,
FLOP ($86) 3d Ks 5d
fabredraw checks
samer33 bets $43
fabredraw raises to $86
samer33 calls $40.25 (AI)
TURN ($252) 3d Ks 5d 7s
RIVER ($252) 3d Ks 5d 7s 2s
fabredraw shows Ad As
(Pre 81%, Flop 91.6%, Turn 95.5%)

samer33 shows Jd Jh
(Pre 19%, Flop 8.4%, Turn 4.5%)

fabredraw wins $248
PokerStove:

Board: 3d Ks 5d
Dead: Jc Js

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 100.000% 100.00% 00.00% 903 0.00 { AdAs }
Hand 1: 00.000% 00.00% 00.00% 0 0.00 { JdJh }

In the hands tab HEM shows EV difference of $20.83.

It's not a critical bug as it applies only to hands where the hero folded but it still corrupts other players' EV graphs in the database.

netsrak
09-28-2010, 05:56 AM
Please zip and mail the original handhistory files (you find them in the HM archive folder or in the handhistory folder of your poker client) together with a link to this thread and an explanation of the problem to support@holdemmanager.net. We will then try to reproduce the problem.

Koxx
09-28-2010, 08:06 AM
done

Patvs
09-29-2010, 01:08 AM
You're right HM ignores EV although the folded cards are known.
HM does this deliberately.


Why we do this read: http://forums.holdemmanager.com/manager-bugs/35045-my-ev-adjusted-not-correct-some-hands-not-imported.html



Is this a CAP hand?? For CAP.... I guess the EV calculation HM uses isn't as useful as it is for regular cashgame hands. Though it's also not really a bug, the EV results in the long-run should still be the same (i.e. $0) using both methods.