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droo09
09-23-2010, 08:25 PM
So I've owned HEM for about 1-2 months now, and have accumulated data for 24,215 hands. btw, these numbers are for tourney's. So far:

my EV adjusted chip count shows $235,450.30
my winning's show -$113,272


Luckily, I am still profiting even though my chip winning is quite a bit less than what I should be gaining. To be honest, I'm not sure how significant the EV numbers are though.

Are these numbers fairly normal for a poker player?
Is my EV showing that I am incredibly unlucky or somewhat unlucky?

Any input would be greatly appreciated!

The Minder
09-23-2010, 08:27 PM
what are you playing?

droo09
09-23-2010, 09:59 PM
I play either 45 ppl sit & go, or 90 ppl sit & go's.

The Minder
09-23-2010, 11:06 PM
I don't think you can make any EV judgments as you're basically an MTT player and I believe HM has some major issues with that (like being geared to only one side of the equation). However, I am sure there are some folks on the HM team that will disagree with that.

Edit: btw, if your BR is going up, you're doing it right.

Patvs
09-24-2010, 01:15 AM
$EV rightfully doesn't work for MTTs.

Your $235,450.30 vs -$113,272 cEV difference also really doesn't mean anything, since cEV doesn't adjust for the size of the blinds. So if you're being sucked out on at 2.000/4.000 blinds level in a 100.000 pot in the LATE stages of a tourney, you can never make up for that if the average blinds are 100/200 playing for 5000 chip pots in the early and middle stages.


Only focus on $EV (Luck Adjusted Winnings) in SNGs (single table!)
And $EV WON in regular cashgames.

droo09
09-24-2010, 01:49 AM
Oh, guess I wasted my money on this program then, lol. I only play MTT, o well.

Patvs
09-24-2010, 02:12 AM
You bought the program to see how lucky/unlucky you are??

Not to display a HUD, track your winnings, replay hands, analyse your game?

The Minder
09-25-2010, 08:46 PM
You bought the program to see how lucky/unlucky you are??

Not to display a HUD, track your winnings, replay hands, analyse your game?

For tourney players, HM only does 2 of these 4 things with any accuracy, so OP's comment has some legitimacy.

http://forums.holdemmanager.com/releases/26537-calling-all-tournament-regs-15.html#post177915

lazuruslong
12-19-2010, 11:51 PM
I have $(ev adjusted) as a stat, but I don't see how to add $ev (Luck Adjusted Winnings) unless this is the same thing.

I have just started using HM for sng's and after 50 tourneys, (I know, small sample size) it says my winnings are -$15000.00 and my ev adjusted is +$9711.00. I am unsure how to interpret this bit of information.

One person told me that it seems I am running somewhat badly, but I really don't know....

Anyone help with the interpretation.

Thanks in advance.

Patvs
12-20-2010, 04:54 AM
You can turn on the "Show Luck Adjusted Winnings" in Tourney--> Results--> Graph