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ryytis
09-06-2010, 06:15 AM
So I just noticed this very weird thing when i go to the "PLAYERS" tab and look at some other players' stats.

Example:
I have 180k hands on a player and when I click on his name the player analysis tab fills up with information but the information is all weird.

example: "Flop as PFR - VERY high Check Fold 305 / 330 for 92.4% (avg 68,9%)"

How the fuck can there only be 330 situations where the player has come into a pot as the preflop raiser if i have 180k hands on him??? And a check fold of 92% just isn't possible for a player like this lol. Seems like none of the stats can be trusted if it screws up everything like this?
Patvs
09-07-2010, 12:10 AM
update to http://www.holdemmanager.com/downloads/Hm_1.11.05_Beta.exe

I have two players at my PLAYERS TAB.
I have 60.000 on player A... and 6.000 hands on player B.

Flop as PFR: LOWBET for BOTH players is 2500 / 5000.
So I think the numbers are accurate, but the player analysis tab either wrongly displays the x out of x sample size.
ryytis
09-07-2010, 05:03 AM
How can a player at the same time fave a check-fold as pfr 92% and flop cbet of 78%? It just can't be right anyways... Theres something fishy.

Or have i understood the stat wrong? Does it mean how often he checkfolds the flop as pfr or how often he folds AFTER checking the flop as pfr
netsrak
09-07-2010, 01:42 PM
Can you post a screenshot please?
I think its easier to discuss then.
ryytis
09-07-2010, 02:10 PM
http://i55.tinypic.com/2qsm8ed.jpg
ryytis
09-09-2010, 05:49 AM
bump
Patvs
09-09-2010, 06:26 AM
It's probably how often he
"folds AFTER checking the flop as PFR"
which is misleading, since he hardly ever checks the flop as the PFR (us usually just continuation bets)
ryytis
09-09-2010, 06:32 AM
Propably? Who knows if you guys don't? :D And yeah It is miessleading like hell...

But how about the other stats? It's just bizare that theres so few xx / xx when theres 180k hands...

"Low fold to turn cbet - 38/130" WTF? You seriously mean he has only been cbet on turn 130 times in 180k hands? lol :S
Patvs
09-10-2010, 01:30 AM
I would ignore the "38/130" numbers and just assume the % shown is correct.
ryytis
09-10-2010, 08:45 AM
I would ignore the "38/130" numbers and just assume the % shown is correct.

What do you base this assumption on? Are they someway counted separately?